These are chat archives for Comm4nd0/HA-System

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Jun 2016
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:19
you there?
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:19
Yup!
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:19
cool!
so
i've been thinking
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:19
How you feeling?
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:19
has already done exactly what we've talked about doing
no need to watch it!
So the main problem with any home automation system (correct me if i'm wrong) is the fact that you have to have some kind of hub or controlling device.
how about we think about a cloud home automation system?
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:22
Yup, with Z-Wave, ZigBee, Insteon, etc.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:22
fuck sake
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:22
I love the cloud, but not for home automation.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:23
well someone has already created what we talked about making
and i don't really want to reinvent the wheel
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:23
Yes, more than one someone. There are many projects/packages available.
CastleOS, HomeSeer, OpenHAB, Nest, Wink...
I thought we were going to build a front end to one of them.
ICARS flavoured.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:35
well the thing is, i'm not really that good at front end. haven't a clue what a doing. i wanted to make a backed while you concentrated on the front end
but it's already been done a million times :(
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:39
Yup. The problem is that the vast majority of them rely on the cloud. If my internet drops out, I still want to be able to run my lights, adjust the heat, watch a movie, etc. Not a lot of economical home solutions offer that.
But no pressure. I thought it would be fun.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:45
what do you mean by economical? cheap?
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:46
Well, there's Control4... completely offline but thousands of $$.
I don't have that...
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:46
ah, why do they all need cloud?
what makes offline so much more expensive?
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:47
No... other way around. Online is cheap but you compromise so much stuff.
I'd like something offline but not +.
Thousands...
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:47
oh right
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:48
Online/Remote access should be an addon. Not a requirement.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:48
there are elements of line that it needs to go online for. e.g. the GPS or finding the weather.
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:48
I mean, it's nice to turn on the AC while I'm at the beach, but that's not that much benfit.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:49
you have a beach!?!
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:49
Uh yeah... I live next to a huge lake.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:49
damn you
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:49
It will be 30C this afternoon.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:50
it was 19c here today
that's hot for us!
also, Walk Off The Earth are from your neck of the woods?
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:51
On a day like that here people wear long sleeves and pants.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:51
you know we call underwear 'pants'
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:52
Oh that's right... well, when you see what the girls wear at the beach you could say they're wearing very short 'pants'.
It's a shame when it cools off and they all put trousers on...
If you like girls that is... ;)
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:53
yeah, women are solar powered
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:53
LOL. Exactly!
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:54
brb
sorry the missus wanted to talk to me
so a fully offline automation system
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 18:58
With a sweet front-end.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 18:59
what will be it's core functionality?
Lights
music
Camera
GPS
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:00
Start with lights... What do you mean by GPS?
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:00
Global Positioning Satalites...
mine tracks me wherever i go in the world and patches my coordinates to a list of known locations i.e. Home, My parents, Missus Parents, Local Supermarket etc etc and if it matches it will say on the display where i am. if not, then it will display how far away i am from home.
matches not patches
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:03
You carry a GPS with you?
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:03
also, you can view a google map with the red dot on the map where i am
goes off my phone
tracks my phone
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:03
What kind of phone? My iPhone won't do that... or will it?
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:03
i couldn't show that in the video that i put on reddit because it shows my address
yes it will ;)
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:04
Do I need an app?
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:04
also, shame on you for having an iphone
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:04
Sorry.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:04
yes, there is an app called GPS logger. just needs to be configured.
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:04
My whole family has iPhones... it sucks to get left out of conversations when you don't have iMessage or Facetime on your phone.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:04
can i share my screen on this shite?
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:05
No. Not yet... they're adding that though.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:05
ok
2016-06-04 (2).png
that's the page where you can view where i am etc
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:07
Nice! So how does the logger post the data? Is there a third party service or do you run something in your home?
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:07
posts it to my web server... i'll show you the code ;)
but yeah, my phones logs it's coordinates to my web server. then the home system goes to the webserver and retrieves them and uses them to work out where i am
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:09
Slick! SSL?
TLS?
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:10
ummm no, it can be but i just haven't configured it to be yet
no reason other than lazyness
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:10
Ok.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:10
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that's the main GPS library i made
different parts of the system call the functions that in it
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:12
And what runs on the web server?
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:12
nothign
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:13
So the logger doesn't use a web service/hook?
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:13
nope, nothing is on the webserver other than the folders that the loggs are saved in
no 3rd party shiz
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:13
So FTP?
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:14
yea
anyway, functionality
Lights
music
Camera
GPS
tv?
what does yours do that you like?
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:17
Nothing... I've setup OpenHAB but my wife won't let me spend on the rest until she gets new windows and a off-the-continent vacation.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:17
haha
like it
Doug Wilson
@hellfirehd
Jun 04 2016 19:18
I get the windows... but we already live in f'ing paradise.
Comm4nd0
@Comm4nd0
Jun 04 2016 19:18
lol