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    Edward Silverton
    @edsilv_twitter
    doesn't look like it's your server config
    Edward Silverton
    @edsilv_twitter
    @aboynejames My test droplet now seems to be fine - hasn't crashed since yesterday... Not sure why..!? I did update node to v10, but it still crashed for a bit. I'm wondering if that actually fixed it, but it needed a restart or something. Would you mind if I updated the damahub server to v10 and restarted it?
    James Littlejohn
    @aboynejames
    sure restart reboot as needed. one thing to note I switched off the ipfs daemon and cluster software last 48 hrs. they might have been interfering with your dat server???
    James Littlejohn
    @aboynejames
    Edward Silverton
    @edsilv_twitter
    I updated nodejs and rebooted. Has been running all day and seems ok now: http://174.138.105.19:3000/97fa96d07caba5e4b5c588f7b93b4df85ce936dabfc5262414dec0a16c362b1f/collection/_egyptian-mau/egyptian-mau.jpg
    I've used pm2 to daemonize dat-gateway. It should start automatically on reboot
    James Littlejohn
    @aboynejames
    great
    Edward Silverton
    @edsilv_twitter
    we went with an Ask Me Anything format for the Dat call with Jim: https://twitter.com/FuseBoxBtn/status/1034808123784159232
    denis parfёnov
    @prfnv_twitter
    Cheers Ed, registered and looking forward.
    Arjun Velagapudi
    @arjunv27_gitlab
    Hi Guys,
    Arjun Velagapudi
    @arjunv27_gitlab
    Good Paper on social computing and science: https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3126648
    James Littlejohn
    @aboynejames
    https://twitter.com/ukcorr similar organisation across EU?
    Johns Beharry
    @johnsBeharry
    just came across this - thought it may be interesting for this group https://www.labstep.com
    James Littlejohn
    @aboynejames
    just checking if anyone is talking today?
    James Littlejohn
    @aboynejames
    governance, anyone got thoughts or opinions on types of democracy? a few listed here https://www.ethereum.org/dao
    James Littlejohn
    @aboynejames
    James Littlejohn
    @aboynejames
    Updated https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EkU_n42UXo5-x8A-66IBaCHiTi7kKkl9uSn0mhHb3iU/edit?usp=sharing to include real world example 'talk' through text and some other thoughts
    denis parfёnov
    @prfnv_twitter
    Too be tested.
    denis parfёnov
    @prfnv_twitter
    arjunv27
    @arjunv27
    I'm going to bring more people in
    Diversity breeds new ideas and builds more resilient structures
    It's also supposed to be decentralized which means nobody controls it
    James Littlejohn
    @aboynejames
    here here
    Eoghan Ó Carragáin
    @eocarragain
    +1
    David Bovill
    @opn
    Just in a chat here with @aboynejames - leading to the realisation that we should meet / talk about governance / science governance together. Can we have a sesson on that?
    James Littlejohn
    @aboynejames
    2pm every tuesday https://meet.jit.si/DaMaHub @eocarragain are you around next week, Minimum viable governance and evidence based governance TOPIC
    UK time zone 1PM EU 2pm
    David Cottrell
    @david-cottrell_gitlab
    Is anyone working on anything with https://datproject.org/ ? I am interested in distributed data-cache sharing (scraping etc) for data science activities and running a quick inventory of communities.
    Johns Beharry
    @johnsBeharry
    happy new year all
    Denis Parfenov
    @parfenov
    Happy New Year @johnsBeharry and all! @aboynejames I'll be on the train at 1pm on Tues but will do my best to join the call.
    Denis Parfenov
    @parfenov

    30 years ago TBL wrote information management proposal for CERN:

    "The aim would be to allow a place to be found for any information or reference which one felt was important, and a way of finding it afterwards. The result should be sufficiently attractive to use that it the information contained would grow past a critical threshold, so that the usefulness the scheme would in turn encourage its increased use."

    "[...] we will be looking for a systems which are future-proof"

    An important part of this, [...] , is the integration of a hypertext system with existing data, so as to provide a universal system, and to achieve critical usefulness at an early stage.

    "(... and yes, this would provide an excellent project with which to try our new object oriented programming techniques!) TBL March 1989, May 1990"

    https://www.w3.org/History/1989/proposal.html

    Denis Parfenov
    @parfenov

    Peter Thiel, Roberto Unger, Cornell West excellent take on the Knowledge Economy. https://youtu.be/h2TrRWAkbr8

    tl;twatch:)) (1) Knowledge becomes highly specialised and divided; (2) "We have progress in the world of bits but not in the world of atoms."

    arjunv27
    @arjunv27
    Nice find Denis
    Want to share some stuff I've been eyeing:
    Org-mode for Reproducible Research: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGnt_PWoM5Y
    arjunv27
    @arjunv27
    for publishing: https://idyll-lang.org/
    arjunv27
    @arjunv27
    The challenge is building a workflow integrating all the components
    Denis Parfenov
    @parfenov
    @arjunv27 meet up video aged well and as relevant as ever. Thanks. Technology is maturing at it's own pace.
    arjunv27
    @arjunv27
    @parfenov In the past, we didn't have decentralized data storage; there's a fair amount of work done for the internals, needs decentralized data storage + a good user interface
    Looking to find a way to incorporate https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rwh/theses/okasaki.pdf with ipfs
    arjunv27
    @arjunv27
    The second difficulty is that functional data structures are expected to be more flexible thantheir imperative counterparts. In particular, when we update an imperative data structure wetypically accept that the old version of the data structure will no longer be available, but, whenwe update a functional data structure, we expect that both the old and new versions of thedata structure will be available for further processing. A data structure that supports multipleversions is calledpersistentwhile a data structure that allows only a single version at a timeis calledephemeral[DSST89]. Functional programming languages have the curious propertythatalldata structures are automatically persistent. Imperative data structures are typicallyephemeral, but when a persistent data structure is required, imperative programmers are notsurprised if the persistent data structure is more complicated and perhaps even asymptoticallyless efficient than an equivalent ephemeral data structure.
    from the paper^^^
    decentralized data is inherently persistent, pretty sure this thesis is where the gold is
    Denis Parfenov
    @parfenov
    @arjunv27 "If you want new ideas, read old books..." - Ivan Pavlov. Thank you