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    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    :/
    Aleksandar Knezevic
    @kretenkobr2_twitter

    I have just found an excellent comment about internet privacy:

    The internet has to be the most liberating technology in the entirety of human history. Never before could we disseminate information with such speed and with such quantity. This post is already a great example. Important information has been presented to the minds of dozens (as of this writing) of people instantaneously.

    Don't anthropomorphize the internet; it is not a person, it's not the thing that makes people stupid, or angry or spiteful, or happy. It's the people that use it, that embrace it, that engage in it that shape how we react to and use the internet. The internet is a tool, albeit a complex and powerful tool, but a tool nonetheless.

    Just as you shouldn't personalize the internet, don't depersonalize governments. Governments are made of people, irrational, emotional, and often self-serving people.

    Do not let the irrational people with their own emotions, irrational thinking, and personal interests dictate how you use this tool. If I walked into your house and tried to take away your toolbox and said 'you can't be trusted with this', would you let me take it? Why the hell would you be any less trustworthy with it than I would if I took it from you indiscriminately? If I wore a government badge, would that make it more justified?

    Just like you wouldn't let me in your house to take the tools away that better your life, don't let other people, whether they wear government badges or not, do the same thing. Easier said than done, but I think some, if not most people, need to change their perspective on the situation in order to defend ourselves from tyranny.

    Make no mistake about it, any person and or any group of people (whether they wear badges or not) that wants to stifle tools of communication, of learning, of dissemination of information, is not doing it to help you.

    /u/wittyandinsightful

    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    Have you read the internet declaration of independence yet?
    It's hosted by the EFF now
    But it's quite inspiring
    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    Is anyone even on today?
    GeOff
    @GeOff82711100_twitter
    hello
    not been on in a day or two
    100 new messages in the surveillanceuk lobby o.o
    Chris Hilliard
    @badspyro_twitter
    I've been a mix of busy and broken for too long :p
    @GeOff82711100_twitter was there a meeting?
    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    Nope
    GeOff
    @GeOff82711100_twitter
    no idea dont think so but im nowhere near to attend one if there was :P
    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    Still waiting for that to happen
    Meanwhile SrUK has stagnated on the Etherpad and my team are trying to do things on the Reddit side of things
    Chris Hilliard
    @badspyro_twitter
    The etherpad seems to have a lot of contacts but no real /plan/
    You can't really get much more than an opinion piece in the papers (never mind other media) without a hook - an event or somthing similar
    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    If you mean on the side of contacting the newspapers sure
    But there is a plan
    It's just that specific thing takes up lots of space and hasn't been fleshed out
    So it looks more like an empty framework of a plan than it actually is
    Chris Hilliard
    @badspyro_twitter
    Is it entirely digital?
    I mean, are there plans for actual meatspace events? Legal activities? Direct Action?
    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    Yeah
    There's IRL stuff
    It's not just digital
    Read the plan through and you'll understand
    There's various stunts and I want more but I can't think of any
    And we're gonna have to convince some lawyers in stage 4 which will more than likely involve meatspace meetups so go look at that too
    And help out if you have any ideas obviously
    Chris Hilliard
    @badspyro_twitter
    Ok, I'm going to PM you some ideas. As for lawyers, that's my area of crazy (law student with contacts)
    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    Oh damn
    Nice
    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    Who the fuck put "Get your mum to make a tea cosy" on the etherpad? lmao
    Aleksandar Knezevic
    @kretenkobr2_twitter
    xD not me
    Have been off these past days, hanging with my family
    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    Lmao hi alex
    Aleksandar Knezevic
    @kretenkobr2_twitter

    sorry guys but

    my family > all else (including DRT and SvUK)

    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    We know
    It's fine
    Aleksandar Knezevic
    @kretenkobr2_twitter
    Is Lobby dead?
    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    yes
    Aleksandar Knezevic
    @kretenkobr2_twitter
    GCHQ: "Finally, these fucks have given up."
    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    lmao
    not yet
    Aleksandar Knezevic
    @kretenkobr2_twitter
    "Now only to take care about Surveillance UK."
    Surveillance UK
    @Surveillance_UK_twitter
    lmao
    Shoot me you bitches
    Shit I keep putting off my bath