These are chat archives for FreeCodeCamp/DataScience

4th
Sep 2018
Alice Jiang
@becausealice2
Sep 04 2018 00:24
@zojjak I did their deep learning program at $700 and I can tell you with full confidence that if I had known there was a 6 months money back guarantee within the first 6 months after I completed, I would have demanded my money back
@zojjak To give you some perspective, I have historically loathed the Microsoft courses on edX for their data science curriculum, butI have recently been going through some to refresh my memory after months without working, and they have done an incredible job. and it's completely free so long as you don't require certificates
I should clarify, I am going through deep-learning specific courses. But regardless, they have put a lot of effort into their courses since I originallytried some out. A lot less "just use our non-industry-standard product" and their recommended supplementary materials are usually really good
Ayo Philip
@Frawzey
Sep 04 2018 00:41
@becausealice2 can you please share the link to Microsoft's deep learning course? Can't seem to find it on edX.
Alice Jiang
@becausealice2
Sep 04 2018 00:58
@Frawzey All of their individualy courses are designed to be part of larger curricula. This is the one I am currently working through, I haven't looked too closely at their other offerings.
Zojja
@zojjak
Sep 04 2018 00:58
@becausealice2 wow nice, looks good
Alice Jiang
@becausealice2
Sep 04 2018 00:59
Here is all their programs listed on their site, they are all through edX though
Microsoft Academy's site is a bit easier for a casual explorer to navigate imho ;)
I worked through their first attempt at a data science curriculum and that's what was so god awful that I swore off them for forever. Curiosity won me over though so I came back and I am very impressed with the improvements
So I can't speak for their current data science program, but I doubt it's what it was. AND! they are pretty good about keeping information up-to-date.
Zojja
@zojjak
Sep 04 2018 01:02
any chance that they give a discount/free courses if you have a msdn license? :)
Alice Jiang
@becausealice2
Sep 04 2018 01:02
So none of this the course is 2 years old but still active bullsnap
@zojjak sign up for edX is free
and all Microsoft courses are free, full-access
the only thing money is spent on is certificates
Zojja
@zojjak
Sep 04 2018 01:02
@becausealice2 I was thinking about the certificate, not that certificates mean much
Alice Jiang
@becausealice2
Sep 04 2018 01:03
and I think they may have scholarship programs or something to that effect, but I couldn't care less about a PDF certificate tbh so I've not bothered looking
Zojja
@zojjak
Sep 04 2018 01:05
I'm always a bit wary of Microsoft overall but I'm pro testimonials :)
Alice Jiang
@becausealice2
Sep 04 2018 01:06
Yeah, every course they made or collaborated on uses Microsoft software (of course), but so long as you know how to use non-MS software to accomplish the same thing then you're just dandy
the introduction course for the AI track is all using Azure, but there's no actual substance in the course, by design, so there's no loss in just not doing the labs
and, for the most part, everything else from the track that I've seen is largely DS standards like Python and Jupyter Notebooks
I did the W3C course HTML5 and CSS fundamentals and that was in collaboration with MS and I laughed everytime the presenters went out of their way to mention VS Code
"If you open the HTML file in VS Code, you can see ... " :joy: product placement
Zojja
@zojjak
Sep 04 2018 01:10
yup, I am actually working through that course now
its been decades since I've touched html so figured it was good to brush up... which is kind of why I'm here
Alice Jiang
@becausealice2
Sep 04 2018 01:10
It's a good one :) Best html intro I've ever done
Zojja
@zojjak
Sep 04 2018 01:11
yeah I like the build up of the project
Alice Jiang
@becausealice2
Sep 04 2018 01:11
I like that they include accessibility and internationalization as built-in features from the get-go
Zojja
@zojjak
Sep 04 2018 01:12
yeah that is amazing because so many websites out there still have issues
Alice Jiang
@becausealice2
Sep 04 2018 01:12
No one else does that so most people I know who build sites don't make responsive, accessible websites
Then when I used to critique FCC campers when they linked to projects, if I ever brought it up I was"nitpicking"
:smirk: I'm not bitter, I promise
Zojja
@zojjak
Sep 04 2018 01:13
ha
seriously, why not make it so the most people can "view"
Alice Jiang
@becausealice2
Sep 04 2018 01:14
Because when you don't program it to be like that from the start, it's a lot more work than it should be lol
anyways, time for games then bed. Night!
Zojja
@zojjak
Sep 04 2018 01:14
night, almost bed time here as well