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8th
Nov 2017
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 01:47
good after noon @DarrenfJ and thaks to you and @heroiczero @thekholm80 @daddycardona @longnt80 @khaduch @GitHub-Henry @sjames1958gm @Marmiz @Manish-Giri @sjames1958gm @korzo @alexanderkopke
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 01:53
I meant good evening
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 02:13
@daddycardona Please read our code of conduct concerning off-topic spamming at https://code-of-conduct.freecodecamp.org/
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 02:27
what are you talking about @mstellaluna I never spam
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 02:33
@DarrenfJ thanks to you and @heroiczero @thekholm80 @daddycardona @longnt80 @khaduch @GitHub-Henry @sjames1958gm @Marmiz @Manish-Giri @sjames1958gm @korzo @alexanderkopke
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 02:33
daddycardona sends brownie points to @darrenfj and @heroiczero and @thekholm80 and @longnt80 and @khaduch and @github-henry and @sjames1958gm and @marmiz and @manish-giri and @korzo and @alexanderkopke :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
:star2: 1587 | @thekholm80 |http://www.freecodecamp.com/thekholm80
:star2: 6783 | @manish-giri |http://www.freecodecamp.com/manish-giri
:star2: 2033 | @heroiczero |http://www.freecodecamp.com/heroiczero
:cookie: 663 | @longnt80 |http://www.freecodecamp.com/longnt80
:star2: 3479 | @khaduch |http://www.freecodecamp.com/khaduch
:cookie: 481 | @github-henry |http://www.freecodecamp.com/github-henry
:star2: 1724 | @alexanderkopke |http://www.freecodecamp.com/alexanderkopke
:cookie: 754 | @korzo |http://www.freecodecamp.com/korzo
:star2: 2260 | @darrenfj |http://www.freecodecamp.com/darrenfj
:star2: 1095 | @marmiz |http://www.freecodecamp.com/marmiz
:star2: 8682 | @sjames1958gm |http://www.freecodecamp.com/sjames1958gm
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 02:34
Yoiu all always help me out a bunch and I appreciate it a lot
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 02:49
@daddycardona Please read our code of conduct concerning off-topic spamming at https://code-of-conduct.freecodecamp.org/
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 02:50
I am not spamming I am literally thanking these people that are always online and help me when I am in need so the code-of-conduct does not apply
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 02:53
@daddycardona it seems you dont understasnd her. cookie wall or long wall is spam. btw you copycat people. it seems you think we are kidding. you need to check fact first. Darren got banned.
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 02:53
@daddycardona the cookie walls are spam
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 02:54
@daddycardona last warning. if you doing it again. you will get ban.
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 02:54
read the code of conduct that has been provided to you twice.
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 02:55
that is not my fault I just thanked people that helped me and now you want to band me. Maybe gitter should not tell everyone that I thank two times that they got cookies but if it is a problem I will stop
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 02:55
i didn't say i want to ban. you violated code of conduct.
@daddycardona btw gitter company have nothing with this case. you are in fcc chat room.
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 02:58
@texas2010 once you got banned, is that forever?
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 02:59
@texas2010 if gitter didn't put the cookies up then you saying FCC allows those cookies to be seen in this chat maybe we should turn that off and who else got banned many people been thanking others
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:00
@longnt80 the first ban no.
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:00
also how do you stop people from texting you one on one asking you questions
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:00
a subsequent ban may lead to a perm ban
@daddycardona what is the issue? its against FCC Code of Conduct. If you read it you'll see it there.
there is nothing to argue about
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:01
it seems you are confused about gitter and fcc. btw gitter and fcc org is separate. fcc use gitter service for chat room. fcc have a brownie point system. they are allow to thank but spam too much is not allow. people did it other day. just too much.
@daddycardona btw msetllauna did give a warning to people in general. :point_up: November 6, 2017 6:53 AM
it seems you missed her message first place
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:02
and a specific warning
and you guys are still doing it
its disrespectful
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:03
plus msetllalna and i think they are abuse on camperbot and spam this chat room.
just enough
@daddycardona one more thing, if you dont like fcc code of conduct. then stop use any fcc chat room. sorry. but up to you to stay here or not. anyway i am done now. have a nice day
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:05
@texas2010 @mstellaluna please don't take it personal
I think they didn't do it with bad intention
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:05
i not take it as personal
we trying to give them a warning and ask them stop.
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:06
@longnt80 you know what I take as personal. when as a moderator I ask you to stop and you do it again
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:06
before they make it worse..
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:06
I only see those thanks "spamming" recently
@mstellaluna I didn't do it again
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:06
I didn't say you specifically
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:06
:point_up: November 6, 2017 4:18 AM then look at this. it is really long wall of cookie...
and scroll down. you will see moree
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:07
that is my issue I am just thanking people that help me everytime I a m here with a question and people get brownie points for it that is not my fault. I am saying I am not purposley trying spam anything on here it just happens when we thank them so sorry if trying to thank someone or a group of people that help me out almost everytime I ask a question does that. I just don't understand why they have a brownie points and camperbots if saying thanks makes a spam wall in it. I literally was confused about saying thanks and camperbot cookies being spam. Maybe FCC should change that becaues in many of our opinions here we thank people that literraly help out a lot and deserve it. I am not trying to go against the code of conduct but it is kind of silly to have that and when used you all get mad because everyone I thanked makes this specific chat worth coming to they always helping everyone and I am always trying. If it wasn't for them this chat room would literraly be stale and not get any of the help others need
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:07
@longnt80 there have been people asking for help in between these walls of cookies.. and they haven't gotten help because their requests have been lost
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:08
@mstellaluna @texas2010 I understand the code of conduct and what you're trying to say
just trying to explain their intention
those spammings are only appeared recently
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:09
@longnt80 @daddycardona btw they come here for ask help but you cause a wall of cookie..... that is really spam.
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:09
@texas2010 and @mstellaluna I am not trying to say I don't like this chat I get some of the best help here and don't like going to stackoverflow because they literally make me feel dumb and most of those walls do not interfere with the help at all
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:09
and I think that was because the chat get much less people in here than before
so these guys are just trying to find a way to keep the active members to stay
they meant no harm
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:10
so spam this room is really help?
wow...
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:10
I didn't say it was a good solution
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:10
well they pick wrong one...
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:11
we not spamming in our heads we are thanking thats the difference I am not trying to fight the case that in the code of conduct it is saying it is spam i am just saying we saying thanks
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:11
@daddycardona no there's a difference. there hasn't been any activity except for spam in this room
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:11
you dont get it. cause camperbot spam is a spam
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:11
there are people asking for help but its gets lost in the sea of cookies
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:11
well @texas2010 and @mstellaluna I don't hardly ever see you on here helping either and that is a lie @mstellaluna I helped or tried to help out earlier today
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:11
camperbot can't handle this.. it crashed the last time for everyone
@daddycardona I don't help, I stopped helping.. and btw I helped 2 people today.. account issues and an border outside the box width
yesterday I helped someone with a java question
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:12
@daddycardona i am still around. do you want me help them all time? is it required now?
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:12
i actually i helped him twice
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:12
I am not saying you don't help I said i never seen you in here
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:12
btw it is not required to help people
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:12
i pick and choose who i help i can't help with react cuz i don't care about react I'm learning java
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:12
I did hang out at here but i got busy
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:13
ok guys, nobody is trying to harm the community
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:13
well whats the point of you all arguing if helping people is the purpose of this chat I always try to help unless I don't know
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:13
@texas2010 @mstellaluna I'll talk to those guys when they do that again
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:14
@daddycardona btw you trying to keep argue to us...
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:14
That is what I am trying to say @longnt80 the people getting thanked are the ones helping the most in this chat that is all I was thanking them all for and they are always helping me. I am not saying that you all don't help but in this chat room I hardly see you
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:14
no other room does this.. except this one
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:15
I am not trying to argue I was trying to say that if that is a problem I will stop but it was there to thank people always helping
like @DarrenfJ he always helps me and others and keeping this place alive that is an issue and we need to address it without out calling it spamming when we were just trying to say and give props to those that help all the time
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:15
@mstellaluna @texas2010 I think what @daddycardona trying to say is how he can avoid spamming
@daddycardona I think you just stop copy many names at the same times
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:16
No I am trying to say I am thanking those people for what they do like we should be and that camperbot should add cookies somewhere else versus showing them here making a wall of spam.
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:17
I think it's difficult to do that
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:18
if the camperbot did not do that no one would be spamming, then if someone needed help and we missed it because of the camperbot making a list of people to say here are your brownies we wouldn't miss it
Manish Giri
@Manish-Giri
Nov 08 2017 03:18
wow
you guys banned @DarrenfJ over this?
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:19
and I will try to use your suggestion or just thank those that help out in that instance thats all I can do that but I am just sayign we getting banned for doing what we should do in a way like @Manish-Giri he deserves it he is here all the time
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 03:19
daddycardona sends brownie points to @manish-giri :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
api offline
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:19
didn't mean that
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 03:20
so you said he deserves a cookie a lot? there is nothing to use brownie point. but we dont give a reward.... I understood he help people a lot.
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:21
No but if I say to all these people thanks for helping with this chatroom then they deserve it because they help and maybe that camperbot should not be turned on
turned off
Manish Giri
@Manish-Giri
Nov 08 2017 03:22
This room is literally DEAD now that the help button has been taken away. And only a few of the regulars come in and help the one or two people that still stop by this room. And the cookies are just a way of showing our appreciation to those regulars.
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:22
or not show my bag
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 03:23
I am sorry for the wall of text of thank you. @mstellaluna
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 03:23
heroiczero sends brownie points to @mstellaluna :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
:star2: 1047 | @mstellaluna |http://www.freecodecamp.com/mstellaluna
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:23
@longnt80 hey man, congrats on the job!
seriously cool, good job
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:23
yes but the problem is that the camper bot says that bs
Manish Giri
@Manish-Giri
Nov 08 2017 03:24
it's not even that this room is active all the time, that the wall of cookies would cause distraction to somebody.
oh yeah @longnt80 congrats, before I say something & get banned..
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:24
hi @thekholm80
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:24
@thekholm80 thank you
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 03:24
longnt80 sends brownie points to @thekholm80 :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
:star2: 1588 | @thekholm80 |http://www.freecodecamp.com/thekholm80
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:24
@daddycardona :wave:
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:24
@Manish-Giri thank you
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 03:24
longnt80 sends brownie points to @manish-giri :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
:star2: 6784 | @manish-giri |http://www.freecodecamp.com/manish-giri
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:24
I can't wait until that position to be just like you @longnt80
until I am in that
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:25
those interview tests was very stressful though
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:25
whiteboard?
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:25
LMAO
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:25
it made me feel like an imposter now
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:26
@longnt80 you're my hero lol
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:26
@thekholm80 algorithm
it was timed
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:26
i mean, did they ask you to write code on a dry-erase board? or on a computer?
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:26
well you're good at those from what it seems like when you help
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:26
only one of them asked me to write code on paper, pencil
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:27
I can't imagine trying to write code on paper lol
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:27
and one let me write on computer but no debug tool or internet
I don't think those code would run though :D
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:28
in my java begginner class I had to take my test on paper and write a lot of code then the test was like what does this loop do? I was like let me retype it and tell you lmao
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:28
i swear, Atom does half the work when I write code
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:28
you use a Mac @thekholm80
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:28
but they can see my logic from what I wrote, maybe that helped
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:28
@daddycardona nope, pc
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:29
Yes that always help man, if you know the logic and concepts then you can do any language according to the people that work in massachusett from india that told me that and they both app creators started with vb lol
how do you run atom then
@thekholm80
Manish Giri
@Manish-Giri
Nov 08 2017 03:30
atom works on all platforms
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:30
^
Manish Giri
@Manish-Giri
Nov 08 2017 03:30
it is bloated af, but runs
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:30
my laptop runs Atom like a dream
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:31
yeah, the reason I don't use Atom is because of bloating
my old laptop can't handle it
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:31
I thought it did not work on PC is that a new thing or am I thinking about something else specifically for Mac?
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:31
dunno
Atom on linux is pretty awesome
Manish Giri
@Manish-Giri
Nov 08 2017 03:31
@daddycardona https://atom.io/
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:31
I use vs code I like it a lot
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:31
i've tried vscode but it's not for me
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:32
why?
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:32
because i like atom better
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:32
I meant what make atom better to you?
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:32
after I put in the extensions worked so well for me
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:32
wait, vs code was done in electron too, wasn't it? so it should have similar performance
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:32
I never used Atom I might have to use it and tell it to write the code for me lmao
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:33
I haven't tried VSCOde on my old laptop
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:33
might work it is not so bloated :)
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:33
but I heard it was lighter than Atom
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:33
LOL jinks lol
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:33
:D
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:35
I like it because it reminds me of sublime but when you put the extensions in works better and you don't have to worrry about ever paying for it
@longnt80
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:36
I tried sublime, it made me sad
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:37
you need extensions to make you happy with it trust me there is one that you can go do something simple and it will start the whole funciton for you but then the constant reminder it is not paid for is a headache lol
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 03:38
@mstellaluna according to the CoC, "Spamming includes posting off-topic messages to disrupt discussions, promoting a product, soliciting donations, advertising a job / internship / gig, or flooding discussions with files or text." it is not an off-topic message to disrupt discussion, since "there is no ongoing discussion at that time". Technically, it could be a "flooding discussion with text."
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:41
@heroiczero that is what I was getting out of it when I read it so because the wall of camperbots is the flooding discussion, and that was my problem it is not our fault that the camperbot does that why it needs to be turned off of changed so that wont happen like just put the points on the side of our pics :)
btw yall I am having issues with Symmetric Difference
Claudio Restifo
@Marmiz
Nov 08 2017 03:49
@thekholm80 if you work a lot in the terminal, I strongly suggest you to try a terminal editor... it's painful at start... but the reward is immense :)
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 03:49
@Marmiz I don't do much of anything lately, haven't written more than a line or two of code in months. I'm too lazy
Manish Giri
@Manish-Giri
Nov 08 2017 03:49

since TY-ing is no longer allowed, guess this my final post. To everyone who's put in countless hours of their time here helping everyone, ty, be well, and Godspeed.

@heroiczero @DarrenfJ @daddycardona @longnt80 @khaduch @thekholm80 ty

CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 03:49
manish-giri sends brownie points to @heroiczero and @darrenfj and @daddycardona and @longnt80 and @khaduch and @thekholm80 :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
:cookie: 481 | @daddycardona |http://www.freecodecamp.com/daddycardona
:star2: 1589 | @thekholm80 |http://www.freecodecamp.com/thekholm80
:cookie: 664 | @longnt80 |http://www.freecodecamp.com/longnt80
:star2: 2261 | @darrenfj |http://www.freecodecamp.com/darrenfj
:star2: 3480 | @khaduch |http://www.freecodecamp.com/khaduch
:star2: 2034 | @heroiczero |http://www.freecodecamp.com/heroiczero
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:51
@Manish-Giri come on
no need to do this
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 03:51
i'm gonna miss you @Manish-Giri
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 03:51
@Manish-Giri :((
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 03:52
it's sad to see the chatroom grow smaller and smaller
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 03:57
@texas2010 Everyone is busy. Just some people take their time from their family or sleep or even breakfast to help the people here to look at some code other people have written. Some of these people do not get thanked for their help. Brownies do not do anything but maybe makes the individual feel good/happy. I am not saying that you should do it for your situation, but everyone has stuff they could do other than staying here to help out or looking at lines after lines of code, and a small thank you can go a long way.
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 03:57
heroiczero sends brownie points to @texas2010 :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
:star2: 1526 | @texas2010 |http://www.freecodecamp.com/texas2010
Manish Giri
@Manish-Giri
Nov 08 2017 03:59
@longnt80 what's especially sad for me is that Darren got banned over this. Take a look at his profile, he's been here everyday for the last 650 days. And for putting in so much of his time, he gets banned?
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 03:59
@heroiczero this is unacceptable.. its a wall of text.. scroll down. its list this all the time and its just getting worse.. people are asking for help but not getting any because its lost in the sea of text ... the only time i see people getting help in here is when these walls aren't around.. its not going to make someone come in here to ask for help that's for sure:point_up : November 7, 2017 2:57 PM
:point_up: November 5, 2017 10:15 PM and again
its non stop
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 04:00
well. cause camperbot spam is a spam. tbh you already know this since i am been fcc mod... @Manish-Giri
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 04:01
@Manish-Giri all Darren has to do is read his IM.. standard for violation of CoC and we unban him. he has chosen not read his IM.
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 04:05
that is exactly what I was saying @mstellaluna, is that someone puts thank you for people that deserve it and I would do it regardless of the brownie points. He said thanks and then camperbot caused the wall of spam not Darren that is why we are like wth we as the ones here didn't see it as spam especially if we here helping.
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 04:05
daddycardona sends brownie points to @mstellaluna :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
:star2: 1048 | @mstellaluna |http://www.freecodecamp.com/mstellaluna
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 04:12
hey guys
I already pick a company as you knew.
However, there's one more company wants to interview me tomorrow. Should I go just for the interview then send them the thank you note later saying that I already picked a job?
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 04:13
interview experience is good
interviewing is a skill that takes practice
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 04:13
@longnt80 Depends if you want to, but it is always good to have more contacts.
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 04:13
besides, they might offer you more money
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 04:14
@thekholm80 @thekholm80 ok, I'll go and see what they offer. Actually, this is the second round interview.
thanks
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 04:14
longnt80 sends brownie points to @thekholm80 :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
api offline
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 04:17
@longnt80 that means you got two jobs and they want to give you the position and you should definitley go and find out how much they gonna pay you and if you could see yourself lasting a longer time with them. There is nothing wrong with keeping your options open ;)
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 04:18
@daddycardona yeah
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 04:18
and if you by some means get downsized out of a job you have more experience landing one LOL
BTW I am very happy for you and am glad I have the honor to share your joy. Knowing that your hard work paid off makes me feel hopeful as well.
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 04:21
@daddycardona thanks man, this community has helped me a lot
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 04:21
longnt80 sends brownie points to @daddycardona :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
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Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 04:22
I still stick around to learn more
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 04:22
no thank you @longnt80 for sharing your success story made my day :)
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 04:22
daddycardona sends brownie points to @longnt80 :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
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Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 04:23
Well I am going to try to make this code work but I am using reduce and reading a better indoctation about it to make it easier for me so I can make it clearer for myself
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 04:24
just post your code
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 04:24
@daddycardona are you on symmetric difference?
Long Nguyen
@longnt80
Nov 08 2017 04:24
@daddycardona you should also post in https://gitter.im/FreeCodeCamp/HelpJavaScript
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 04:24
yes sir :)
I will next tim e;)
time :)
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 04:25
@daddycardona you could use a reduce or you could use filter too. There are many ways to do it
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 04:27
I am actually reading reduce in a indept FCC form so I can try to learn how to use it properly the right way and truly start coding better with a better understanding. I feel if I truly learn one the others would make more sense to me so since on get a hint there is this I will read it lol @heroiczero
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 04:31
I didn't know the get hint now gives answers. No wonder why people don't come to chat lol
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 04:34
yes it gives solution lol
why I don't go by the hints only on one challenge felt dumb lol
but they also try to help you understand reduce better in a link that is there why I don't understand why it is not on one of the links that is in the challenge
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 04:36
@daddycardona - I found the .reduce() method hard to understand until I saw this article in the forum. Going through that helped me to get a better understanding of it - maybe it will be a good informational article for you, if you haven't seen it already?
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 04:36
that is exactly what I am reading right now @khaduch lol
why did they put bind in the example and did not truly explain bind is my only problem they should of just left out this for that explanation
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 04:39
@daddycardona - oh, good! If you have questions about that, you should ask here and we can try to help. I did find it to be a little bit of a tough go at first, I had such a mental block about the .reduce() method. But going through it, I even found a bug in one of the examples and edited the article. I have done additional re-visits to some of my challenge solutions and re-did them with .reduce(). It's pretty cool! :icecream:
I guess I need to read a good article about this LOL, @daddycardona
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 04:40
I have been trying to do that too the revisiting of certain challenges and after I read this whole article I am going to bed to dream about using .reduce() lol
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 04:41
lol
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 04:41
this don't really serve a purpose for this article especially in the beggining part to me lol
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 04:42
@daddycardona - I'm checking out for the night, too - try to forget about .reduce() until morning... it's best to clear your head from some of these things.... :)
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 04:42
LOL goood niight FCC fam :)
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 04:43
Good night sleep tight
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 05:36
@Manish-Giri Thank You for all your hard work, and I hope you come back and keep on helping and chatting here. Chat is dying little by little :worried: I remember the good old days when we had more member in the chat asking how to solve the problem, and we try to help them by avoiding the answer and giving them indirect clues to help them solve the problem. Now the answer is provided in the Get Hint. It is so much easier to get the answer. Just scroll down. Personally, I learned more with interaction than just a wall of text in a textbook, but there are less and less people because chat has less and less exposure. If you don't come back, Good luck on your future endeavors and Life :).
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 05:36
heroiczero sends brownie points to @manish-giri :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
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Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 07:36
@Manish-Giri Good luck man
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 07:43
@mstellaluna this chat is dead compared to how it was before it was removed from "get help" button. There were moments that we weren't able to respond because there were so many help requests. To argue that people are not getting help because of "walls of cookie spam" is a sad joke. They're not getting it because they never came here, and you go and ban contributors for how the bot works, which can be easily changed
Fabien SHAN
@X140hu4
Nov 08 2017 13:10
There are so many posts on the forum for small issues... a lot don't get answered and I found it good to help people and share the limited amount of knowledge I have. On forums, people seems to be more likely to post, figure out a problem (or not) and forget about their forum posts...
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 13:22
@GarrusNapp We have a Code of Conduct in place to prevent this kind of spamming. It is out of control. it has now become well let me thank 12 people for no reason but to keep streaks alive. A person in that list happens to be here, go oh i'll thank back but instead of thanking the 1 individual, goes ahead and thanks the 11 plus the originator .. so how you have the large list from the original person, plus the other person and its back to back to back wall spam. The bot is simply being abused. The way the bot was being abused with its other features that were also removed and Code of Conduct was amended. I have had enough on the topic .. that's it.
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 13:22
mstellaluna sends brownie points to @garrusnapp :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
:cookie: 851 | @garrusnapp |http://www.freecodecamp.com/garrusnapp
mstellaluna
@mstellaluna
Nov 08 2017 13:24
You want to do this kind of stuff.. go into Camperbot's playground and do it there.. that's why that room exists .
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 13:30
the only thing out of control is your action of banning for nothing
Stephen James
@sjames1958gm
Nov 08 2017 14:40
:end:
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:20
@heroiczero I totally agree with you about learning with interaction because as I was reading that link they told me to read to make reduce easier they also gave the answer to the question or challenge. Now the funny part as I was trying to understand the answer I still don't know what the hell it was talking about why I don't like looking at the answer. I don't know if there is another way to really do that challenge because it confuses the heck out of me. I might right a recursive function in the function if I can figure out how to do that easier lol
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:26
@GarrusNapp I can see the issue on both sides now that I had a good nights rest of 4 hours. What the real problem is is not the fact that people are saying thank you, it is the fact that after we say thank you to the people that keep this specific chat room alive like @mstellaluna said it just spans because of the camperbot saying how we gave everyone cookies or brownies. To me the real problem, because I can care less for the brownie points, is the fact that I honestly in my heart thank the people that keep this chat room happy like @sjames1958gm and others that come here on a regular mainly to help. So if we could suggest that they turn off the camperbot that exploits our gratitude for those who honestly come here from the bottom of their heart and don't get paid a dime to help others then that would fix the problem. If they want to give us brownie points maybe it should be underour picture and you can see it add 1 or a +1 and then our points so this chat room doesn't get spammed by the camperbot
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 15:26
daddycardona sends brownie points to @garrusnapp and @mstellaluna and @sjames1958gm :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
:star2: 1050 | @mstellaluna |http://www.freecodecamp.com/mstellaluna
:cookie: 853 | @garrusnapp |http://www.freecodecamp.com/garrusnapp
:star2: 8684 | @sjames1958gm |http://www.freecodecamp.com/sjames1958gm
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:27
those were accidents
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 15:27
@daddycardona If you need to know what it does accomplish and where and why its useful: Reduce is used to produce one value out of multiple values. Thats the summation of what it does. It lets you therefore iterate over a list and look at the single items one after another and simultaneously put together a singular value of any kind which you derive from the single values. That value you put together is often called an accumulator. If you want to know it deeper and with examples, i can maybe explain better when im home and not on my phone :D
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:30
@alpox I understand the reduce method and how you explained it right now is in simple terms so that makes for a lot more understanding. I was talking about the explanation of the code they use to finish the challenge. mixing it with the filter() method and stuff like that is what confuses me I really would not understand that yet because in my heart they went from novice to advance then to you must work in this field so this is not that hard even though you have no clue lol algorithym challenges lmao
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 15:30
+1 for the update on the camperbot instead of banning people. It really shouldnt be that hard to make it show a much less verbose version of points distribution (see slack as example) or no cookies would also do. I dont think anway that people come for them. When people get banned for thanking others, im close to be out as well
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:32
the problem like they said is that if you thank all these folks @alpox then a wall of kudos goes to like 12 people, of course those are the 12 that usually helping in this chat, but then you do it back to back and bam super wall of cookie loving camperbots lol
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 15:32
daddycardona sends brownie points to @alpox :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
:star2: 1446 | @alpox |http://www.freecodecamp.com/alpox
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:32
@daddycardona it does not get spammed enough for it to be any issue.
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 15:32
@daddycardona right, its for the makers of the solutions also not easy to estimate what exactly the level would be they can provide a solution for. But at that point they could go without such helper methods
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:33
noone is harmed by that
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:34
so the problem is not so much that we trying to spam folks it's that all those people at once get spammed and you're right @GarrusNapp I totally agree so I didn't even know what I was getting that spam message for lmao now I do
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 15:34
@daddycardona yes im aware of that and it is indeed a bit silly. But not enough to throw out people which come with good intent and help. Thats why i think changing the camperbot to a less verbose version would reduce/remove the issue
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:35
and @GarrusNapp thanks for understanding my concearn about that it is a little frustrating but I will thank those from now on one at a time so i don't make that wall
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 15:35
daddycardona sends brownie points to @garrusnapp :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
api offline
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:35
not that link sorry
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:35
lol
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 15:37
If i find some time the next weeks i can maybe make setup a pull request... Ill see if university lets me some time
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 15:38
The sad thing is there is no one to help in the help channel. I dont really see a discussion we are interrupting. From 15:00 to right now. There is no one to help. Maybe @daddycardona. This is kind of sad. I help more in Code Review and Help FrontEnd than here. Even Javascript rarely gets any visitors. I mean if you can get the answer why bother to chat. People may post in forums, but they sometimes do not check it again. When you chat and discuss, you motivate and encourage people to keep trying. We are social animals.
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:39
@GarrusNapp if I knew how to code better I would take that code and show our brownie points under our pictures or avatars that are actually in the chat room not the side avatars. Then if you thanked me I would just get a +1 for the thank instead of the camper bot saying i send someone brownie points then it shows how each of the people in here gets addied cookies to their personal account and their site to their account on what looks like quoted messages
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 15:39
daddycardona sends brownie points to @garrusnapp :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
api offline
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:39
@daddycardona that's better idea, but the brownies aren't part of gitter
it's only FCC part, and bot too
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 15:40
@daddycardona the camperbot cannot accomplish that, its only a chatbot. It cannot change UI stuff around as far as im aware
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:40
it's non issue really
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:41
@heroiczero do I agree with you and understand absolutely and @GarrusNapp I know that is why I am saying since it is an FCC problem we should try to code and fix it. I would make it so that it did fix it and changed the UI @alpox im loco
lol
and if I say thanks when I am talking about something else and tag your name you still see the stupid api offline and other message why it's dumb to me we need to fix it, it's our chat so maybe if we can or know how to we do it. I am not heading up that project by the way lmao
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:42
mod in ban raport gave 4 instances of DarrenfJ doing that, not any of it actually creating a problem for someone looking for help
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 15:43
@heroiczero - I agree with most of the points of the discussion here. The chat rooms used to be very active and I think it is a valuable resource for people who need a higher degree of interaction as they learn. But the changes in the freeCodeCamp environment to take the focus away from the chat rooms really curtailed the activity here. Those of us who come back to help are more "old timers" who enjoyed helping people - and I find that rethinking and rephrasing the attempts to help make it easier for me to remember things that I've learned. Not having as many help opportunities has hurt my recollection of some things. (As I find when trying to craft an example function to offer as an example to someone here in the frontend or javascript room asking for help.) I guess that there isn't an optimal solution that makes everyone happy. The forum might work well for some people, the chatrooms for others.
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:43
the problem is that it can lead to that and we were told to stop, and I honsetly didn't even know what the hell they were talking about lol
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:43
there's no reason whatsoever at current traffic this chat gets, to change the bot
back when it was much higher this wasn't an issue too somehow
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 15:45
@GarrusNapp @daddycardona - for what it's worth to me - once you get used to scrolling through the chat, you can ignore the "wall of cookies" when it is there. And as you say, Garrus, there isn't an extremely high level of activity here to complicate things all that much.
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:45
I am use to it it don't even bother me lmao
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 15:45
I agree
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 15:46
Same here. Doesnr bother me at all
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:47
I don't know about you guys here, but when I was more active few months ago, the traffic was huge, and the help chat was - in my opinion - extremely useful because people didn't just gave the answers
宣浙华
@zhehuaxuan
Nov 08 2017 15:47
aaa
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 15:47
I'm a relative newcomer to the chat and the wall itself didn't bother me as much as the idea that a group of people were farming for points that are meant to be reflective of how helpful they are. While they may have been fairly active in the chat and willing to help, their massive point counts seemed to be more from giving free ones to each other than actually helping people. That being said, it's still all meaningless internet points so :clap:
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:48
well I am done conversing this because it is distracting me from my answer
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:48
they helped with understanding but never gave straight answers, but encouraged the person to do it by himself
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:48
@kbaig that is because they earned those besides us saying thanks to them when we got on
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 15:48
daddycardona sends brownie points to @kbaig :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
:cookie: 410 | @kbaig |http://www.freecodecamp.com/kbaig
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 15:49
@khaduch yeah but did you see the "Get Hint" it literally three hints and then the answer. Well, I do Codewars.com regularly, because its fun and has many languages that you could review and keep sharp.
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:49
some of their point tallys on in the thousands no way in heck that is just free points
yeah I don't like that either @heroiczero
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:49
@kbaig I can assure you that noone just farmed them from 0 to let's say 1000
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:49
I want help give me many hints not the answer lol
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 15:50
@kbaig Sorry you missed the golden days, where everyone was getting help from Help chat instead of the Get Hint tab. I just noticed too.
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 15:50
I'm not trying to imply that that's where their points solely came from overall. I'm only saying that that's what their recent conduct looked like as a newcomer to this room
Honestly I didn't even know there was a get hint tab. When was it implemented?
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:51
@kbaig yea, but that's because hardly anyone asks questions now
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 15:51
It is a big Green button under the Submit i mean it is pretty blatant
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:51
few months ago traffic would be so big that you could get dozens of points / hour
Albert Cardona II
@daddycardona
Nov 08 2017 15:52
I usually help all the time or refer someone that can. Like i don't know anything about react but I point them to someone like kolm or manish who haves a greater understanding then i do I will be back later I have to bathe and clean my stinky arm pits lmao
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 15:52
the chat would be filled. It was kinda a motivator for some because some people would post their JS solutions and another person right after would too
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 15:52
@heroiczero If it was in the last couple of months I probably didn't see it. Finished algorithms in the summer I think
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 15:53
@kbaig I think it was after Chat got removed from the Green bar they replaced it with a Get Hint Button. I think not certain
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:54
removing chat was controversial too imo
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 15:55
@heroiczero - I have mixed feelings about the "get hint" tab - it is far too tempting to look down at the answers. I have not looked at many of those hint contents, but have looked at a few after the fact (because I've completed a lot of the challenges before those became so easily accessible.) But properly structured, it could be really useful. I have done some codewars problems, but I have this problem in that I get myself going in too many directions trying to learn new things and I forget about some of them - I should go back to codewars because they have some really interesting problems and it takes some real thought to come up with solutions!
That being said - helping here is still something that I like to do and perhaps the powers that be are trying to change the direction of things, so as this dwindles more and more, it might be time to try and focus on completion of the last couple challenges that remain, and the projects, and see how to proceed...
Lance
@texas2010
Nov 08 2017 15:56
@daddycardona it seems you are still confused about gitter. i told you fcc do not own gitter. we cant change UI in the gitter. fcc use gitter service for chat room. fcc cant change anything of gitter ui.
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 15:57
@khaduch I think that human interaction is better than get hint because the issues with code can differ a lot
sometimes you've got everything right but just typo, and it can be frustrating
Manish Giri
@Manish-Giri
Nov 08 2017 15:58
@heroiczero ty for your message last night, it means a lot to me.
CamperBot
@camperbot
Nov 08 2017 15:58
manish-giri sends brownie points to @heroiczero :sparkles: :thumbsup: :sparkles:
:star2: 2039 | @heroiczero |http://www.freecodecamp.com/heroiczero
Manish Giri
@Manish-Giri
Nov 08 2017 15:59
whether or not this chat room remains as it used to be, it was always good knowing you guys.. @heroiczero @GarrusNapp @khaduch and the rest of you..
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 16:00
@GarrusNapp - excellent point - it is definitely more useful (in my opinion) to try and take a person who has gone off the rails with a solution through steps to understand why what they have done isn't working and how to get it back on track. That was what used to happen a lot in these rooms. And you're so right about the small issues like a typo, or using = instead of ===, for example - it helps to have someone point those kinds of things out, and that was a value that the chat room added for people's learning progress.
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 16:01
@Manish-Giri you too man
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 16:01
@Manish-Giri - definitely true, Manish - nice to get to know people through the interactions here and learning together...
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:05
@khaduch yeah the population is dwindling more and more. You need fresh people. To keep a community active, people tend to move on, but injection of new people will keep it active. Having the Chat room visible in FCC kept the online community alive. Now, I see one every now and then. It is only one or two people maybe that actually come here for help, and most do not return. Oh well. Good things never last. we used to have alot of regulars and it was a thriving community. Now it seems like a husk of its former self
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 16:13
maybe they wanted to have more traffic at forums, idk
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 16:15
@GarrusNapp yes they did
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:15
I remember one time the Chat button was hidden behind your login page or something and they only had a forum bar
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 16:16
@GarrusNapp -it seems to me that that was the motivation for making that change. It might be good for some people, but the higher level of interaction here in the chats is more helpful to some people. I know that the chats have drawbacks - like there is a lot of repetition for some types of problem - for example, I used to regularly see people totally confused about the "Record Collection" challenge, and a few other challenges that used to be "inflection points" on the learning curve, because they took different elements that were taught in earlier lessons and put them together for the first time. Maybe those types of things are better handled in the forum, if people are going there?
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:17
At least he forum is active lol
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:21
@khaduch It might be repetitive but I think that's also an advantage to chat. Only the first few people asking about a certain problem on a forum might truly benefit from learning to work through it while the rest of the people on that thread could potentially just be getting spoon fed the answer
Of course that's all on a case by case basis and this world is not meant for many absolute truths :+1:
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:22
I used to see Record collections all the time lol
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 16:23
yea record collection and radio buttons :D
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:23
lol
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 16:23
ctrl + c "these are not radio buttons!" :D
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:23
What's this about radio buttons?
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 16:24
there is a challange to do something with radio buttons which are <input type='radio....>
but there are also <button></button> and people would try to change those :D
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:25
aaaah
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 16:25
@kbaig - I agree. I'm not saying that that was a disadvantage, because as you point out the fact that getting to work through a solution with some struggle and perseverance helps the learning process. And someone in the forum post on this change to focus away from the chat rooms pointed out - helping people also helps the helper... I know it did for me, because if I couldn't spend a lot of time doing coding of challenges or working on the projects, helping for an hour or so kept my head in the game a little more. That's important to me at this point! :)
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:25
People usually post certain question repeatedly, because it was not explained well. Like radio and <div class="container"> and stuff.
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:26
@khaduch I was lucky enough to find out that helping people is the best way for me to learn at a pretty young age so I've always stuck with it. fCC Gitter rooms have been a godsend
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 16:27
@kbaig :+1:
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:27
yeah but not much helping now
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:28
Another issue is that I didn't even know this room existed till I made an effort to look through the whole list of available rooms. For a long while, I only knew about Help[Cert] rooms and the main fCC room
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:28
So perhaps if people were directed to Help instead of HelpFrontEnd when they signed up, we would have more traffic here?
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 16:28
definitely - I'm getting rusty, so I have to find motivation to go and focus on more coding and learning. I'm trying to get through a udemy course on react... and I should revisit codewars just to get a daily jolt of coding inspiration! And of course I'll stop by here for a while - some old habits don't die easily... ;)
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:29
@kbaig is that why HelpFrontEnd has more traffic then Help
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 16:29
@heroiczero :point_up: November 8, 2017 11:28 AM "piece of cake" LOL... :D
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:30
@heroiczero I think so. Like I said, I thought it was the main place to get help for a long while when I joined
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:30
@kbaig It used to be the Help was the Designated Help spot and HelpFrontend use to be a ghost town
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:30
People in HelpFrontEnd ask about all sorts of things
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 16:30
I think that a "simple" regex will do it...
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:30
The front end cert, React/Angular/Vue, PHP, Python
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:30
try i already solved it :)
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:30
SQL
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 16:34
@heroiczero well - let's see if I can focus on it for more than two minutes...
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 16:34
lol look what i found
traffic was easily 10x higher before change
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:35
lol
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 16:35
Good project for data visualisation
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:35
yeah show a graph of the chat dying.
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 16:36
@heroiczero done :-)
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 16:36
I need to scrape it
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:41
@alpox Nicely done thx for participating :)
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Nov 08 2017 16:41
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Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 16:41
@heroiczero - i did solve it. Not sure it's an optimal solution, but it passes the tests. :)
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:41
anyone else trying to solve it?
I mean i want to see the solution, but i don't want to Spoil the other people trying to solve it
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:42
I'm ready for the solution :)
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 16:42
function vowelStart(str){
  return str
     .toLowerCase()
     .replace(/[\W ]/g,'')
     .replace(/(?=[aeiou])/g, ' ')
     .trim();
}
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:43
^ I would have taken the same approach
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:43
return str.toLowerCase().replace(/[\W_ ]/g,"").replace(/([aeiou])/g," $1").trim();
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 16:45
Almost the same :D there are many variants for the second replace
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:46
btw guys, in regards to my earlier comments about the room: My intention was only to promote healthy discussion and learn more about how fCC has changed over time, hope I didn't upset anyone!
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:46
no not upset just sad the community got so small
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:47
Well if it helps I work at a software company and recommend fCC as a way to get into programming to all the non-technical people :)
Specifically mentioning the community as a resource
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 16:47
my attempt was almost the same as yours, @heroiczero -
function vowelStart(str){
    //write your code here
    return str.toLowerCase().replace(/\W/g, '').replace(/([aeiou])/g, ' $1').trim();
}
heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:49
@khaduch thx for sharing :)
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Nov 08 2017 16:49
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Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 16:49
@heroiczero thanks for posting the problem :)
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Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 16:51
@heroiczero - yeah, thanks for posting that... might make me spend more time there again...
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Nov 08 2017 16:51
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heroiczero
@heroiczero
Nov 08 2017 16:53
yeah it is a good place to do regexp and stuff i know Chrono spends alot of time there. He is a 2kyu. I think he spends more time there than here now
Well I gotta run maybe see you tonight :)
Darren
@DarrenfJ
Nov 08 2017 17:17
@longnt80 congrats on the new job, buddy
@heroiczero that looks like a great codewars for practise...
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 17:25
@DarrenfJ sup :wave:
Darren
@DarrenfJ
Nov 08 2017 18:47
@GarrusNapp hey buddy what's up :D
@khaduch that for the codewars challenge?
the regex solution you posted?
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 18:48
that codewars seems cool just registred
Darren
@DarrenfJ
Nov 08 2017 18:50
coolCool.. i think me and manish were doing it obsessively a month or so back.. i should be on there if you wanna friend
as trying to do a day for a bit decidedd to move over to a CSS challenge from P1xt
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 18:54
yup, i followed you
shame that i can't see what input is failing
Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 19:00
@DarrenfJ - :point_up: November 8, 2017 1:47 PM - yeah, that was for that codewars kata.
Darren
@DarrenfJ
Nov 08 2017 19:02
sorry for some of the late replies.. trying to catch up when i'm not busy with my actual job which also fills up a ton of my time.. but my time will be more free for me now lol
@khaduch cool man, gonna try that one.. I tend to avoid regex but possibly might be the next major thing i atually learn top to bottom
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 19:03
pfft real jobs ... ain't nobody got time for that
Darren
@DarrenfJ
Nov 08 2017 19:30
and for @longnt80 definitely as someone said.. getting interview practice even if you don't take the job is invaluable
great discussions on the ins and out of helping people. what you can learn by helping.. agree completely on many of the points..what i really loved was it was a way to feed real-time info on what challenges didn't quite make sense to new people.. based on how often they had the same issues with them ..
Darren
@DarrenfJ
Nov 08 2017 19:36
@khaduch thanks for sharing the regex..still gonna try it old school first though... you on there? what's yer user name so I can friend yah...
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Nov 08 2017 19:36
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Darren
@DarrenfJ
Nov 08 2017 19:47
and thanks @heroiczero for the link if I forgot to thank you
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Nov 08 2017 19:47
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Ken Haduch
@khaduch
Nov 08 2017 19:56
@DarrenfJ - I think I'm khaduch on there, too... not super creative with the username... yeah, I just checked. Thanks for joining in - with some encouragement, I might go to that site more often for the much-needed practice!
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Nov 08 2017 19:56
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Darren
@DarrenfJ
Nov 08 2017 19:58
i love doing algo challenges.. keeps the mind fresh... it's a bit touch and go in there though..foudn a few 7 and 8 kyus that i was fairly surprised by and a few 6's that seemed easier tbh..
gonna go friend you and @GarrusNapp
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:03
Can I do this document.getElementsByClassName('key').addEventListener(...) or do I have to do forEach ?
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:10
i cant
perks of not learning dom manipulation in vanilla js, but in jquery
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 20:11
DOM manipulation in vanilla JS can be a pain, but usually it's still better than importing jQuery
gishy1
@gishy1
Nov 08 2017 20:14
hello world
how can you count even numbers in javascript ?
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 20:15
i += 2?
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:15
@gishy1 hi
gishy1
@gishy1
Nov 08 2017 20:15
this chunky monkey is doin me in
@GarrusNapp hi
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:15
yea chunky monkey is crazy at first
gishy1
@gishy1
Nov 08 2017 20:15
waves*
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:16
what do you need even numbers for
Dylan
@dhcodes
Nov 08 2017 20:32
@thekholm80 you know async/await?
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 20:33
@dhcodes not well
Dylan
@dhcodes
Nov 08 2017 20:33
k
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 20:33
I think @manish-giri has a good handle on it
he did a thing with it
Dylan
@dhcodes
Nov 08 2017 20:33
but is he around...
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 20:33
hmm
gishy1
@gishy1
Nov 08 2017 20:33
@dhcodes i want to seperate them then add to it
Kyle Holm
@thekholm80
Nov 08 2017 20:33
good question
Dylan
@dhcodes
Nov 08 2017 20:33
wut?
gishy1
@gishy1
Nov 08 2017 20:34
like 0 2 4 then i can add 1 to it to get the last position
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:35
@gishy1 in chunky monkey?
gishy1
@gishy1
Nov 08 2017 20:35
ya bro
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:36
I don't understand why you want to do that
you can get various size, even or not
gishy1
@gishy1
Nov 08 2017 20:37
@GarrusNapp how
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:37
Youve got some code already?
maybe post it so I can understand your approach
gishy1
@gishy1
Nov 08 2017 20:38
let me show what i have
function chunkArrayInGroups(arr, size) {
  // split arr into size
  // so create an empty array
  // array positions i.e [i].length=size
  var arrEmpty=[];
for(var i =0;i<(arr.length/size);i++){
  var d=arr[i]+1;
  arrEmpty[i]=arr.slice(i,d);  

}  


  return arrEmpty;
}
the i and d positions are what are giving me a head ache
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:39
your I and D
is start and finish
for slice, correct?
if the size is 2, you need slice(0,2) then slice(2,4) etc.
gishy1
@gishy1
Nov 08 2017 20:42
yes
i wanted it to have the 1 gap
but the problem is the 0
if its starts at 0 add one then thats 1
fine
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:43
note, that it's from 0 to size
gishy1
@gishy1
Nov 08 2017 20:44
let me go bed its really frustrating
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:44
but your real issue is
using arrEmpty[i] to populate this array
why not arrEmpty.push(value) ?
gishy1
@gishy1
Nov 08 2017 20:46
@GarrusNapp that will assign to each of the positions
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:47
no, each loop you need a new value
Kaz Baig
@kbaig
Nov 08 2017 20:48
@dhcodes maybe I can help. What was your question?
re: async/await
Garrus Napp
@GarrusNapp
Nov 08 2017 20:48
arr = []
arr.push(1)
console.log(arr) // [1]
arr.push(2)
console.log(arr) // [1,2]
this is how it works
@gishy1
Darren
@DarrenfJ
Nov 08 2017 21:14
@gishy1 hey buddy.. welcomeWelcome
Henry
@GitHub-Henry
Nov 08 2017 21:22
@DarrenfJ hello :shipit: :sparkles:
Darren
@DarrenfJ
Nov 08 2017 22:51
@GitHub-Henry hey man how goes it? :D
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 22:54
Yess... just finished a Kyu1 on codewars :sunglasses:
Darren
@DarrenfJ
Nov 08 2017 22:55
@alpox right on brutha! well done.. I think I'm slogging through 6 and 5 kyus
alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 22:56
@DarrenfJ Thanks :D
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Nov 08 2017 22:56
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alpox
@alpox
Nov 08 2017 22:56
Its around my 3. 1 kyu though, but its always a good feeling :D
Oh wrong i only did 2 now
Stephen James
@sjames1958gm
Nov 08 2017 23:59
@DarrenfJ Back from your exile?