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Aug 2018
Marcos Douglas B. Santos
@mdbs99
Aug 07 2018 00:28
Hey @rlebeau I've commented too... thanks
Are you the maintainer of Indy nowadays?
Remy Lebeau
@rlebeau
Aug 07 2018 00:30
@mdbs99 yes, I am
Marcos Douglas B. Santos
@mdbs99
Aug 07 2018 00:31
Just to know
I don't use Indy for a long time, and I was not sure if the project was stopped or not
Thanks for your work/time
Remy Lebeau
@rlebeau
Aug 07 2018 00:40
@mdbs99 it is certainly not stopped, though efforts on it can be slow at times since I'm the only coder working on it
Marcos Douglas B. Santos
@mdbs99
Aug 07 2018 00:48
I see. Sad. Indy is a huge project. Should be more developers working on it
Remy Lebeau
@rlebeau
Aug 07 2018 00:57
@mdbs99 there did used to be a whole team working on Indy, but over the years its members have left or gone silent, and nobody new has come in. There are still a few admins hanging around, but no other coders besides me (AtoZed has coders working on IntraWeb and CrossTalk, but they don't work on Indy, though they do use Indy inside of IntraWeb).
Marcos Douglas B. Santos
@mdbs99
Aug 07 2018 01:02
Well, looks like that Atozed is migrating to C#
I don't know if you are an employee of Atozed of just work in that project in your free time... anyway, I should know that your work counts and many projects still continue using Indy in production.
Remy Lebeau
@rlebeau
Aug 07 2018 01:06
@mdbs99 I am not an AToZed employee, I'm just a volunteer for Indy, but AFAIK they are not migrating to C#. CrossTalk is for using .NET assemblies in Delphi/C++Builder, but IntraWeb is written in Delphi.
Marcos Douglas B. Santos
@mdbs99
Aug 07 2018 01:07
Good to know... however, I'm using more FPC/Lazarus nowadays than Delphi
I don't know if IntraWeb will survive competing with TMS Web Core
...but that is out of scope here
Marcos Douglas B. Santos
@mdbs99
Aug 07 2018 01:19
I'll use Indy in one of my projects so, I'll stay here to get some information and help people if I can
Kudzu
@czhower
Aug 07 2018 15:07
@mdbs99 Indy is also VERY mature. So maint is much more limited. Indy is over 20 years old.
@mdbs99 Not sure where you got this thing about Atozed Migrating to C#. Both Atozeds 2 main products are Delphi.
@mdbs99 TMS web core is WAY behind IW. Even IW 14/15. TMS web core isnt even Delphi but PasScript and has almost not backend you have to build that manualy using their other parts. That stuff is transparent in IW. IW and TMS are very different. TMS is far more basic and missing dozens of major features that IW has.
EitanArbel
@EitanArbel
Aug 07 2018 15:47
@mdbs99 as far as i know, AToZed may have some plans to create intraweb 17 also for Lazarus.
besides that, i think you meant to say that you don't know if TMS Web will survive intraweb... :D
Marcos Douglas B. Santos
@mdbs99
Aug 07 2018 20:07

Not sure where you got this thing about Atozed Migrating to C#

@czhower I'm sorry. I just took a look in Atozed website and saw some C# products... but, my bad.

IW and TMS are very different. TMS is far more basic and missing dozens of major features that IW has

They are different, yes. Maybe I was a little fast saying that I said. Sorry, again.

i think you meant to say that you don't know if TMS Web will survive intraweb

@EitanArbel this will be a good battle to see! ;-)

Kudzu
@czhower
Aug 07 2018 20:50

@mdbs99 The only C# product there is CrossTalk which allows you to use C# or .NET code IN Delphi.

On the open source sponsorship side, yes we also have COSMOS but we are just a sponsor of that just like Indy. We provide server infra and other resources as well as coding (volunteer) of some of our staff.