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    Paulo Cereda
    @cereda:matrix.org
    [m]
    :point_up: Edit: kjharcombe We do the best we can, and of course sometimes real life stuff stress us a bit. Sometimes Ben Frank carries the piano for a while, then I take a turn. :) Then we buy another piano for no reason. :) IoT is about having legitimate fun, make a difference for being friendly and welcoming. :)
    Keiran Harcombe
    @kjharcombe

    @benfrank:matrix.org, I’ve got a fairly good understanding of Markdown, TeX and LaTeX. Language wise I’ve worked mainly in the usual languages (VB, Xamarin, Xcode, Swift etc)

    The documentation sounds like something right up my alley. If anything else that is documentation oriented comes up then feel free to let me know. :)

    I would be quite interested in working on Texdoc online as well.

    I’ll also keep an eye on the various projects to see if there’s anything I can help with. :)

    Hope this helps :)

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    Keiran Harcombe
    @kjharcombe
    @benfrank_gitlab I’m a Mac user and more specifically I’m working on Apple M1. I’ll certainly take pandoc on. See what I can do 😁
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    Paulo Cereda
    @cereda:matrix.org
    [m]
    Looks like your visa has been granted. :)
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    Keiran Harcombe
    @kjharcombe
    Looks like your visa has been granted. :)Y
    Paulo Cereda
    @cereda:matrix.org
    [m]
    Welcome to IoT, @kjharcombe ! :)
    Keiran Harcombe
    @kjharcombe

    Welcome to IoT, @kjharcombe ! :)

    Thank you :D

    Keiran Harcombe
    @kjharcombe
    I had a thought... Has Texdoc.net been updated to TeX Live 2021?
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    Paulo Cereda
    @cereda:matrix.org
    [m]
    @kjharcombe Hey Keiran, how's it going? We have seen your mail on the TL mailing list, so we wonder if you want to focus on that for now? :)
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    kir0ul
    @kir0ul:matrix.org
    [m]
    What was the name of the band that did the Zelda's cover music of Paulo Cereda's presentation at TUG 2021? 🎶 🙂
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    Paulo Cereda
    @cereda:matrix.org
    [m]
    Enjoy! :)
    kir0ul
    @kir0ul:matrix.org
    [m]
    Just heard about the Island of TeX BTW, really cool project!
    7 replies
    For example I think the official or semi-official container images of TeX Live was a true need! Thanks for that!
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    Ben Frank
    @benfrank:matrix.org
    [m]
    Oh, and for everyone coming here after Paulo's talk today: We missed to mention https://gitlab.com/islandoftex/archive which provides an archive of older (abandoned) TeX-related projects (hosted on SourceForge or other hosters where it is unclear whether old source code is well preserved). If there are any ideas what's missing, simply reach out to us 🙂
    Paulo Cereda
    @cereda:matrix.org
    [m]
    If anyone wants to replay my talk, here it is: https://vimeo.com/579959624 😊
    kir0ul
    @kir0ul:matrix.org
    [m]
    By the way, just for the sake of my curiosity, do you mind if I ask why you chose Kotlin?
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    Paulo Cereda
    @cereda:matrix.org
    [m]
    We can program with COBOL and as long as we are having fun, let's go! 😉
    1 reply
    oh no
    kir0ul
    @kir0ul:matrix.org
    [m]
    Interesting, I thought Kotlin was more on the mobile side of things but it seems I should have a closer look 😄
    2 replies
    Paulo Cereda
    @cereda:matrix.org
    [m]
    And there's even a Kotlin kernel for Jupyter notebooks.
    Kotlin in data science is now a reality. :)
    hmenke
    @hmenke:matrix.org
    [m]
    🦆
    Paulo Cereda
    @cereda:matrix.org
    [m]
    ooh quack :)
    hmenke: welcome :)
    hmenke
    @hmenke:matrix.org
    [m]
    Paulo Cereda: While I'm here: Any chance we are going to see native Arara binaries at some point? Kotlin supports building native code: https://kotlinlang.org/docs/mpp-build-native-binaries.html
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    But since I don't speak Kotlin myself, I don't know what kinds of caveats are involved there.
    hmenke
    @hmenke:matrix.org
    [m]
    I already had the feeling that it wouldn't be that easy. Thanks for looking into it.
    Paulo Cereda
    @cereda:matrix.org
    [m]
    Thank you for being so supportive of our projects! ❤️
    hmenke
    @hmenke:matrix.org
    [m]
    What's the size of the IoT TeX Live Docker images? I'm considering using them for CI, but I'm also a little bit concerned about bandwidth, because on those systems unused images are pruned nightly.
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    hmenke
    @hmenke:matrix.org
    [m]
    Ideally you wouldn't install all of TeX Live into a single layer as you are doing right now. The perfect layering would install packages with a similar update frequency in upper layers and base packages in lower layers.
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    Maybe you will find this interesting: https://grahamc.com/blog/nix-and-layered-docker-images
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    Unfortunately, TeX Live's dependency management is suboptimal, to say it politely, so applying this technique will be non-trivial.
    hmenke
    @hmenke:matrix.org
    [m]
    Putting weekly updates in their own layer should work out. There is an upper limit of 125 layers (or so) in a Docker image, but since TeX Live releases only live for a year there can be at most 52 weekly updates.