guys, why is there so much arguing go on in here? To correct a couple statements above no one on the s4s team is irritated with anyone and our plans for s4s are related to using code specifically created for it, a user-interface heavy tool meant for creators, rather than code created for a library like s4pi which is user interface lean (if you look at s4pe as its interface) and meant for coders. The purposes of these two things are very different and the code which works well for one does not suit the other as effectively. Also, we have a new coder on the team who has had a bit of difficulty working with the rather intricate and unique s4pi code. Removing all this will allow this person to be more productive and to have greater familiarity with the code the tool is using. Although Kuree generously offered some code components these sections were already completed using different code sources. There will not be any line of code that is borrowed from s4pi. All code in the tool will be either "homegrown" or taken from other licensed sources. The team is still considering how to license the tool. Certainly, no one wants to discourage other coders from working on this project. Our latest member joined the team after posting in the forum that they wanted to work on S4S. We are actively seeking more coders as a matter of fact. Anyone with a serious interest should not hesitate to speak up.