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    David Landry
    @davad
    How long ago did you set this up?
    (It says you said something Feb 2014)
    Kyle Mathews
    @KyleAMathews
    yeah, I think then
    but I invited you earlier
    David Landry
    @davad
    really?
    I just got the invite
    Hadn't heard of Gitter before I saw the email today :smile:
    Kyle Mathews
    @KyleAMathews
    yeah, it seems nifty
    David Landry
    @davad
    It does
    Kyle Mathews
    @KyleAMathews
    for larger projects especially
    David Landry
    @davad
    Yeah, seems pretty useful
    David Landry
    @davad
    Heh
    So I tried out a couple other chatrooms last night
    And I assumed clicking the "x" meant I was leaving the chatroom
    No no nooo
    it means I "hid" the chatroom
    got a couple emails for github project chats I don't care
    *don't care about
    Kyle Mathews
    @KyleAMathews
    :)
    everyone loves a broken UX
    David Landry
    @davad
    heh
    yup
    I mean, in other ways, it works nicely
    and I suppose there was a little door icon next to the "x"
    door for "leave" and an x for "hide" I suppose
    Kyle Mathews
    @KyleAMathews
    I'm starting to get really angry when people blame themselves for not knowing how something works
    David Landry
    @davad
    Haha
    Meh, I don't blame myself
    I don't know that I blame them either though
    Kyle Mathews
    @KyleAMathews
    like when my mom was upset at herself for not being able to send emails through the church's ward portal thing
    David Landry
    @davad
    Ahhh, yeah
    Kyle Mathews
    @KyleAMathews
    I was like, "no, it's actually a sucky web app"
    it's not your fault
    David Landry
    @davad
    Haha
    Well, there are two sides of it
    I bet it is sucky
    But on the flip side, people often assume they can sit down and use software without learning how to use it
    e.g. "I've never used photoshop, but this'll be quick!"
    Kyle Mathews
    @KyleAMathews
    oh sure
    but easy things should be easy and hard things possible
    David Landry
    @davad
    And with the web supplanting desktop-based software, to an extent the same applies
    Kyle Mathews
    @KyleAMathews
    and when easy things just flat out don't work
    David Landry
    @davad
    Heh
    Kyle Mathews
    @KyleAMathews
    or are cumbersome to do
    that's the designer/PM/engineers fault
    David Landry
    @davad
    Yeah, definitely
    David Landry
    @davad
    So, playing with gitter made me see if they have Bitbucket integration (they don't)
    which reminded me of HipChat (which does)
    which led me back to play with HipChat again
    have you used HipChat recently?