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    Juliane Schneider
    @JulianeS_twitter
    Oooh, we could get them to install Jeckyll....er, never mind. OK, I'ma put down the coffee now.
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Hi @ostephens couldn't make the CrossRef thign work - will advise
    James Baker
    @drjwbaker
    @JulianeS_twitter So, you want to make the installation and data download part of the shell lesson? Or a new lesson on Windows?
    Janice Chan
    @icecjan
    So I put my hand up to be one of the SQL lesson maintainers, but I don't seem to have permission to merge PRs. Can someone please give me write access? Thanks :)
    James Baker
    @drjwbaker
    @icecjan You should have an invite now!
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Hi @ostephens scratch my last comment - it was my own inability to read instructions!
    Janice Chan
    @icecjan
    Thanks @drjwbaker
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Hi @JulianeS_twitter You are very brave with that idea! Or what politicians call 'courageous' - and we all know what that means - certifiable, looney, batsh*t crazy. I don't know that we need a Windows thing so much as just a digital tune up of how to download a file and know how to find it, how to install a program, how to get Chrome installed on your system if you haven't already, how to open multiple tabs in a browser (yes, I know, lame, but I have HAD THAT PROBLEM on the roadshow).
    Also lots of enthusiasm at the roadshow for my cyber security stuff - this is just an off the cuff five minutes where I tell them to get wise and help their customers wise up too. I email my 21 point plan to them later.
    Richard Vankoningsveld
    @richyvk
    @JulianeS_twitter @weaverbel I second the idea of a tuneup lesson, with a focus on getting things installed on Win could be good. Interesting that you mention where things should be installed etc. This could have linux/mac stuff too, and you could (perhaps) mention things like Homebrew for mac. Dare I say even talk about $PATH :)
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Noooooo
    carmi cronje
    @ccronje
    Hi @jt14den can you help me out please? How would you incorporate previewing in Jekyll (http://swcarpentry.github.io/lesson-example/05-checking/) into this workflow? http://www.tim-dennis.com/swc/2016/07/25/contributing-carpentries.html
    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    @ccronje , sorry! I've been bad on gitter ;(
    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    i updated that blog entry to include the jykll stuff http://www.tim-dennis.com/swc/2016/07/25/contributing-carpentries.html
    though i seemed to creamed my template :)
    ironic
    carmi cronje
    @ccronje
    Thanks @jt14den! I'll give it a trial run soon :+1: WRT your template check out poole/hyde#206 (hope it helps!)
    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    @ccronje thanks! all fixed now
    jamie jamison
    @jmjamison
    I don't know if this would be useful for anyone else. First time I had to fork someone's repository I was somewhat terrified of breaking something. I found a handy tutorial and sample repo to fork - the Spoon and Fork repository at https://guides.github.com/activities/forking/. It walks you through the process of contributing to a project.
    Janice Chan
    @icecjan
    @jmjamison that's great! thanks for sharing that. it's useful!
    Juliane Schneider
    @JulianeS_twitter
    Hmmm.....could this start to replace OpenRefine? https://cloud.google.com/dataprep/
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Not free though @JulianeS_twitter
    Juliane Schneider
    @JulianeS_twitter
    Ah, that's the catch
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    New issue raised on the Git lesson - we probably need to have the conversation that we should have had post-sprint about what this lesson is/should be data-lessons/library-git#58
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    For the SA workshop, I look @weaverbel's open refine lesson exercises handout and put up in hacked.io, my fav new markdown tool https://hackmd.io/KwUwTADAjAZgJjAtDALPRKCGUBGiCcc+AHIgMYQDsMZYAbCmfnQMxA==
    *I took
    Many thanks @weaverbel
    James Baker
    @drjwbaker
    @jt14den did you print and hand out?
    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    I taught from it, no hand out
    Gave them the link
    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    Sorry, my memory is trash, I didn't teach OF at joburg, @isakvdw_twitter taught it and used the hackmd version
    I did use in a ucla follow up meeting on OF on the 22nd
    I suspect we could pull out all exercises and solutions automatically and make a md version via the same process the reference/ page is created
    Richard Vankoningsveld
    @richyvk
    @jt14den Your hackmd OR doc is ace, will use that for my upcoming workshop, thanks!
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Lesson maintainers might be interested in joining the Carpentries maintainers email list: http://lists.software-carpentry.org/listinfo/maintainers
    Also there is this latest post from Chrtina Koch about the recent community call: https://software-carpentry.org/blog/2017/10/maintainer-follow-up.html
    There is also this merger discussion in github: about lesson organization https://github.com/carpentries/2017Merger/blob/master/RFCs/RFC7.md
    There is also this repo in conversations which has come about because of recent talk about timeliness of PR merges etc : carpentries/conversations#15
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    What do people think of this text to list lesson maintaining as a skill in job/grant/tenure applications?

    Library Carpentry is a volunteer organisation whose members teach software and data skills to librarians. Housed on GitHub, all Library Carpentry lessons are open source, with an open contribution model, and lessons are collaboratively created and maintained by volunteers.

    I have worked as co-maintainer of the XXX Library Carpentry lesson for YYY years. This work equates to the role of an associate editor at a journal - someone who evaluates submissions and helps shape a journal’s direction and content. Lesson maintenance involves discussing and resolving issues raised about the lesson, managing corrections and updates to material, and implementing larger directional and content upgrades.

    Working as a lesson maintainer has sharpened my skills in the following ways.

    I have

    • developed excellent version control skills and experience with git and GitHub
    • broadened my strategic thinking and decision-making capabilities
    • gained valuable experience managing a collaborative project – both the technical aspects and managing
    interpersonal interactions with a wide range of community members
    • gained useful teaching insights and perspectives by working so closely on a specific lesson
    • developed transferable skills in software development and teaching
    • volunteered my time to help teach others these skills because I believe in the importance of these skills to
    foster research
    • learned better time management to stay on top of all my commitments.

    Obviously people could adapt as they see fit but it might be nice to not have to invent this from scratch !
    Schuyler Lindberg
    @schuyberg
    Hi all, I'm interested in contributing to the library-python-intro course, and was hoping someone could clarify whether the course is to be taught entirely in Anaconda/Spyder, or if it will use Jupyter Notebooks? The 'setup' section seems to suggest the former, but I see references in the lessons to Notebooks. Should these be removed? Cheers, S
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    pinging @richyvk - you have a helper!
    Hey @schuyberg - welcome to the room !
    Schuyler Lindberg
    @schuyberg
    Thanks Belinda. It's been a busy summer for me, but I'm now (belatedly) attempting to finish my certification. I'm actually adapting parts of the python module for a guest lecture here at UBC and hoping to contribute something back in the process.
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Fantastic @schuyberg You can raise issues, comment on existing issues or review existing pull requests if you don't want to do a PR for something new against a lesson. All that counts as a contribution.
    @schuyberg The lesson owner for python-intro is @richyvk so you and he can have a bit of a chat at some stage
    Richard Vankoningsveld
    @richyvk

    @schuyberg Welcome Schuyler! Would be great to have some more contributions to the Python lesson. @c-martinez is a maintainer too. We have been slowly working through the lesson. I primary focus so far has been to make the content more library and less math. Since the Sprint earlier in the year we've slowed a bit on development, but I'm going to endeavor to ramp up again in a week or so.

    If you want to have a more in depth chat about it anytime please let me know. I can fill you in on a discussion I had a while back with @elliewix and @elainewong about its future direction.

    I'm hoping it might get some love via @chodacki 's grant too.

    To answer your question about Spyder or Jupyter, it was decided we would use Spyder, so yes, the setup needs fixing. If you want to do that and PR it that would be awesome :)

    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    @schuyberg welcome to gitter!