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    Janice Chan
    @icecjan
    @jmjamison that's great! thanks for sharing that. it's useful!
    Juliane Schneider
    @JulianeS_twitter
    Hmmm.....could this start to replace OpenRefine? https://cloud.google.com/dataprep/
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Not free though @JulianeS_twitter
    Juliane Schneider
    @JulianeS_twitter
    Ah, that's the catch
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    New issue raised on the Git lesson - we probably need to have the conversation that we should have had post-sprint about what this lesson is/should be data-lessons/library-git#58
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    For the SA workshop, I look @weaverbel's open refine lesson exercises handout and put up in hacked.io, my fav new markdown tool https://hackmd.io/KwUwTADAjAZgJjAtDALPRKCGUBGiCcc+AHIgMYQDsMZYAbCmfnQMxA==
    *I took
    Many thanks @weaverbel
    James Baker
    @drjwbaker
    @jt14den did you print and hand out?
    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    I taught from it, no hand out
    Gave them the link
    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    Sorry, my memory is trash, I didn't teach OF at joburg, @isakvdw_twitter taught it and used the hackmd version
    I did use in a ucla follow up meeting on OF on the 22nd
    I suspect we could pull out all exercises and solutions automatically and make a md version via the same process the reference/ page is created
    Richard Vankoningsveld
    @richyvk
    @jt14den Your hackmd OR doc is ace, will use that for my upcoming workshop, thanks!
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Lesson maintainers might be interested in joining the Carpentries maintainers email list: http://lists.software-carpentry.org/listinfo/maintainers
    Also there is this latest post from Chrtina Koch about the recent community call: https://software-carpentry.org/blog/2017/10/maintainer-follow-up.html
    There is also this merger discussion in github: about lesson organization https://github.com/carpentries/2017Merger/blob/master/RFCs/RFC7.md
    There is also this repo in conversations which has come about because of recent talk about timeliness of PR merges etc : carpentries/conversations#15
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    What do people think of this text to list lesson maintaining as a skill in job/grant/tenure applications?

    Library Carpentry is a volunteer organisation whose members teach software and data skills to librarians. Housed on GitHub, all Library Carpentry lessons are open source, with an open contribution model, and lessons are collaboratively created and maintained by volunteers.

    I have worked as co-maintainer of the XXX Library Carpentry lesson for YYY years. This work equates to the role of an associate editor at a journal - someone who evaluates submissions and helps shape a journal’s direction and content. Lesson maintenance involves discussing and resolving issues raised about the lesson, managing corrections and updates to material, and implementing larger directional and content upgrades.

    Working as a lesson maintainer has sharpened my skills in the following ways.

    I have

    • developed excellent version control skills and experience with git and GitHub
    • broadened my strategic thinking and decision-making capabilities
    • gained valuable experience managing a collaborative project – both the technical aspects and managing
    interpersonal interactions with a wide range of community members
    • gained useful teaching insights and perspectives by working so closely on a specific lesson
    • developed transferable skills in software development and teaching
    • volunteered my time to help teach others these skills because I believe in the importance of these skills to
    foster research
    • learned better time management to stay on top of all my commitments.

    Obviously people could adapt as they see fit but it might be nice to not have to invent this from scratch !
    Schuyler Lindberg
    @schuyberg
    Hi all, I'm interested in contributing to the library-python-intro course, and was hoping someone could clarify whether the course is to be taught entirely in Anaconda/Spyder, or if it will use Jupyter Notebooks? The 'setup' section seems to suggest the former, but I see references in the lessons to Notebooks. Should these be removed? Cheers, S
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    pinging @richyvk - you have a helper!
    Hey @schuyberg - welcome to the room !
    Schuyler Lindberg
    @schuyberg
    Thanks Belinda. It's been a busy summer for me, but I'm now (belatedly) attempting to finish my certification. I'm actually adapting parts of the python module for a guest lecture here at UBC and hoping to contribute something back in the process.
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    Fantastic @schuyberg You can raise issues, comment on existing issues or review existing pull requests if you don't want to do a PR for something new against a lesson. All that counts as a contribution.
    @schuyberg The lesson owner for python-intro is @richyvk so you and he can have a bit of a chat at some stage
    Richard Vankoningsveld
    @richyvk

    @schuyberg Welcome Schuyler! Would be great to have some more contributions to the Python lesson. @c-martinez is a maintainer too. We have been slowly working through the lesson. I primary focus so far has been to make the content more library and less math. Since the Sprint earlier in the year we've slowed a bit on development, but I'm going to endeavor to ramp up again in a week or so.

    If you want to have a more in depth chat about it anytime please let me know. I can fill you in on a discussion I had a while back with @elliewix and @elainewong about its future direction.

    I'm hoping it might get some love via @chodacki 's grant too.

    To answer your question about Spyder or Jupyter, it was decided we would use Spyder, so yes, the setup needs fixing. If you want to do that and PR it that would be awesome :)

    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    @schuyberg welcome to gitter!
    @weaverbel I really like that job text for maintainer
    Juliane Schneider
    @JulianeS_twitter
    Agreed, good summary of the maintainer, @weaverbel!
    Schuyler Lindberg
    @schuyberg
    Sounds good @richyvk, I adapted some of the modules for a guest lecture/lesson that I taught this morning, and I did some work making the 'lists' module less "mathy" that I can clean up a little more and submit a PR for if you'd like. I also added a module on dictionaries - I know the submission docs say not to increase the scope, but I found it to be very useful for library students and they caught on fast as it is very applicable to the metadata schemas and structures that librarians use. I'd be happy to submit that as well if you're interested in the additional content.
    You can review the dictionaries module in my 'adapted' and abbreviated lesson here: https://schuyberg.github.io/library-python-api-intro/06-dictionaries/ Please let me know if you think it's worth submitting. My changes to lists and other modules are there as well, and I'll go back and merge the changes that are relevant back into my own fork of the official lesson before submitting a PR.
    Schuyler Lindberg
    @schuyberg
    (I was asked specifically to cover using the Open Collections API for this lesson, so I modified it to focus on the basics required to do that rather than follow the regular course plan)
    also, thanks @jt14den :)
    James Baker
    @drjwbaker
    @weaverbel Does LIS journals have 'associate editor' roles? The LIBER journal we published the LC article in doesn't. Instead it has an Editorial Board. Does anyone @/all edit a LIS journal?
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    @drjwbaker The idea of the text is that people adapt it as they see fit to suit their circumstances. It isn't meant to be used as is but is there to help spark ideas/save time.
    Lesson maintainers for Library Carpentry are welcome to join the Carpentries maintainers mailing list - might be good to join discussions there? http://lists.software-carpentry.org/listinfo/maintainers
    Interesting post here from the recent call about it: https://software-carpentry.org/blog/2017/10/maintainer-follow-up.html
    James Baker
    @drjwbaker
    @weaverbel Okay. In that case, looks great :)
    Juliane Schneider
    @JulianeS_twitter
    Because I'm intrinsically obnoxious, I'm going to cross post this from the Lobby: Until lately I'd forgotten to sign up for the Maintainers super helpful listserv, I figured I'd post the link to sign up here. Maintainers, if you aren't on it, it really is full of useful discussion! http://lists.software-carpentry.org/listinfo/maintainers
    Belinda Weaver
    @weaverbel
    I am moving all the Library Carpentry lessons out of data-lessons and into the Library Carpentry organisation. I'll do a post once I've finished.
    Jez Cope
    @jezcope
    :thumbsup:
    Vicky Steeves
    @VickySteeves
    I am having trouble building the lesson sites locally. Do I need to run the jekyll site with the commands or jekyll, or use the Makefile?
    *commands for jekyll
    Mark Laufersweiler
    @laufers
    I have never actuall built a site using jekyll, I just previewed locally. What I do is in top directory hosting the code, I run “jekyll serve” and it starts the service and shows the local http address to open in your browser.
    Vicky Steeves
    @VickySteeves
    Thanks! That works.
    Tim Dennis
    @jt14den
    There’re instructions in contributing