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    Bryan Haberberger
    @thehabes
    1000 use cases in one place : https://gisgeography.com/gis-applications-uses/
    вкαя∂εℓℓ
    @briankardell_twitter
    they have proprietary a things in everything else the browser does/did too
    Fred Esch
    @fredesch
    You need two implementations to be added to HTML.
    Amelia Bellamy-Royds
    @AmeliaBR
    My analogy: YouTube (and its Google owners) didn't block <video>, it adopted it. IMO, The commercial asset is the map content (and the paid services to search/use it), not the map viewer.
    Fred Esch
    @fredesch
    Won't Joanmarie require you have semantics and accessibility APIs defined for a new element?
    Bryan Haberberger
    @thehabes
    Yes. It often has to be explained that an Image of a Map is not a map, especially to the Web. It is an image.
    Satoru Takagi
    @satakagi
    @AmeliaBR
    The video element is similar to the each video shown in youtube, but the map being discussed here seems to be similar to a service like youtube.
    tguild
    @tguild
    Topic: Summary, conclusion and next steps
    scribenick: ted
    Amelia: this is the last of our live sessions but not end of the workshop, reminder all the sessions are recorded and posted to Youtube
    … continued conversations on Discourse
    Simon Pieters
    @zcorpan
    While we're plugging things, I'd like to also say that we (Bocoup) are available for hire to help to standardize new things for the web platform and drive consensus among stakeholders :)
    tguild
    @tguild
    … anyone you know who haven't been engaged in the discussions but interested, please direct them to agenda page and Discourse for videos and the next stage
    Peter: thank you everyone, appreciate all the input and different perspectives
    … I want to reiterate a number of things I learned this week. first and foremost is the importance of accessibility for web maps
    … augmented reality will be important as well
    … understanding of needs for web maps will evolve
    … are there other stakeholders that you can identify that should be looped into this conversation?
    … do people agree standardizing maps for the web is worthwhile? I know some disagree
    Fred Esch
    @fredesch
    standardization is good
    Bryan Haberberger
    @thehabes
    Absolutely. There are many stakeholders in cultural heritage and digital humanities. We are a group that represents that stakeholder, and can be found at https://iiif.io/community/
    tguild
    @tguild
    … what are the next steps? try to form a new Working Group at W3C? perhaps a joint group with OGC or go back to the Community Group...
    Bryan Haberberger
    @thehabes
    Next steps : Integrate as implementers, do some small P.O.C's within the group if possible, and connect with feedback.
    tguild
    @tguild
    … I got making maps a first class citizen on web backward, first we need to get stakeholders, especially those wishing to fund this involved
    Nicolas
    @NicolasRafaelPalomino
    Worthy goal? maps is the future for sure.
    Peter Rushforth
    @prushforth
    I forgot to mention internationalization
    tguild
    @tguild
    Doug: summary not as neccessary given people can watch the videos at their leisure
    … focusing on take aways, future directions better for next stage
    Amelia: we should strive to have a report with conclusions within a month
    … whether it is just a summary or makes recommendations on how to advance
    Peter: text rendering built into browsers should not have to be duplicated or repeated but can be leveraged
    … I agree we should wholeheartedly embrace all the effort that went into browser rendering
    Bryan: we work with museums, librariers etc and I look forward to bringing this to my group and willing to work on proofs of concepts and bring back feedback
    … I will be more helpful and informed instead of have intrepidations
    Peter: this proposal needs champions
    Bryan: we took on following GeoJSON and this workshop enforced it is being widely embraced
    Peter: before we can describe this as a polyfill it needs to be tested
    tguild
    @tguild
    Amelia: there are two sides to this story, we had a good discussion on low level issues such as rendering
    … there is the other end where content creators who want an easy API for expressing their content on a map
    … I suspect these things would need to move forward in parallel
    … there are already leaf widgets. Peter's map element polyfill is currently done as a wrap around leaflet but there are other ways it could be done
    Bryan Haberberger
    @thehabes
    All these institutions tend to have people that can dabble in HTML, but scripting is a major gap to cross.
    tguild
    @tguild
    … just playing around what the markup could look like while leveraging existing map engines worthwhile
    Bryan Haberberger
    @thehabes
    Those people would definitely be less intimidated by a <map> element
    tguild
    @tguild
    … Bryan's clients don't care about the implementation details but how it works and to describe their content
    Bryan Haberberger
    @thehabes
    @tguild Which is why "including" the user the whole time in development doesn't always work in the devs favor
    Fred Esch
    @fredesch
    Having done charting engines, my concern is semantics, interactivity and accessibility
    Bryan Haberberger
    @thehabes
    @prushforth and that's how most people treat them. I want a map CMS that works like Omeka.
    tguild
    @tguild
    Peter: I don't think anything is changed on the server side, this is just a more natural format with less friction