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Szabolcs Horvát
@szhorvat
Just updated to IDEA 2019.3, nice to see that the plugin had an immediately available update too!
Szabolcs Horvát
@szhorvat
@halirutan Not sure where all this Global` stuff comes from:
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I’ll take a closer look later, but need to finish implementing this function first
Patrick Scheibe
@halirutan
@szhorvat That's odd. I'm currently banging my head with halirutan/Wolfram-Language-IntelliJ-Plugin-Archive#146 and I think I resolved. But now I need to check if it broke something since it's really deep inside the parser.
Szabolcs Horvát
@szhorvat
@halirutan Wasn’t the following bug fixed already? I really thought it was fixed. Did it regress?
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Patrick Scheibe
@halirutan
and please ping me with any problems.
Szabolcs Horvát
@szhorvat
@halirutan I can’t find how to install the beta. I already had the beta repository added, but it’s not offering the 2020 version. Therefore I removed the plugin, I removed the respository, and I re-added it. But it’s still not offering anything but 2019.3

The instructions say:

you can install the beta-version for “Wolfram Language” in the Browse Repositories window

Where is the Browse Repositories window? Could you show me a screenshot? I couldn’t find this. I was searching in the Marketplace, which offers 2019.3. Maybe this is why I couldn’t find 2020, maybe it’s in a different place?
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Szabolcs Horvát
@szhorvat
@halirutan Do I need to have IDEA 2020 EAP to be able to install the beta plugin?
I can install the EAP, if that's needed to test the plugin, no problem.
Patrick Scheibe
@halirutan
@szhorvat Yes. I tried to fix as many deprication/removal API usages as possible and unfortunately, some of the new API changes don't work in 2019.3.
Usually, I don't try to be such an early adopter of changes, but right now Jetbrains does a lot of high quality cleanup. All these things make sense and make the API more stable, and, eventually, we need to implement them anyway.
Szabolcs Horvát
@szhorvat
The font changes to something rather unusual looking. It’s not unpleasant, but I wanted to make sure it changed for you too, as I’ve been messing with the fonts in previous versions.
Never mind, I should have read the blog post
Patrick Scheibe
@halirutan
@szhorvat I also use this font now. It's quite nice and since I only have the condition that the font needs to be overall consistent, I tried it for some weeks. I guess I got used to it now.
Szabolcs Horvát
@szhorvat
@halirutan Just a reminder that you can enable code ligatures too
eduardoofthehour
@eduardoofthehour
@halirutan Hi, long time user, very happy, my plugin is working fine but regarding the new licenses, have you considered switching to a model more like mathematica where you pay for a version and then if you want the newer version you have to pay again? I dislike having recurring subscriptions I might forget exist.
Patrick Scheibe
@halirutan
@eduardoofthehour There are several sides of this story and let me quickly go through them:
The plugin is on the Jetbrains marketplace and I can only use the licensing schemes they provide. Atm, they only support subscription-based.
However, even if they would let me sell licenses on a version basis, I'm not sure I would do that. The subscription has several advantages for you as a user and also an advantage for me as a developer.
Patrick Scheibe
@halirutan
My personal advantage is that I get subscription fees regularly. It's a very tiny portion compared to my main income, but let's say I would do this for a living. With the subscription model, I can constantly push bug-fixes or new features as soon as I have them. I don't need to work towards a major version where I need to think about bundling all the things I worked on to make it worth a major version.
The advantages for users are obvious:
  • you can always use the latest version of the plugin
  • you can test features from early on and we can find bugs fairly fast. Compare this to Mathematica, where we had horrible bugs in the past with a new version that staid there for half a year or more.
  • you pay a small fee each month and can cancel the subscription at any time
Patrick Scheibe
@halirutan
@eduardoofthehour OK, I guess these are the main points but I'm happy to answer any additional questions.
Szabolcs Horvát
@szhorvat
@halirutan I have a feeling that I brought this up before, but I cannot recall the discussion. If you agree it's a bug, I'll open an issue. Here it goes:
DirectedEdges is completed as a function, not as a symbol. I'm not sure why.
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Compare Normalized which is completed without showing [] at the end:
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Strangely, Normalized does not show a context, even though it should be System context.
This is true for anything that's not treated as a function $RecursionLimit also does not show a context.
It's pretty bright here today so I can't see well with Darcula. I'll switch back after sunset. I really wish for an automatic theme switcher :)
Patrick Scheibe
@halirutan
@szhorvat The reason is that I use a "heuristic" to decide if it's a function or not and strangely enough:
In[303]:= Options[DirectedEdges]

Out[303]= {"ArrowheadsSize" -> Automatic}
Szabolcs Horvát
@szhorvat
???
That must be a bug!
I'll ask Kyle
Patrick Scheibe
@halirutan
And I can check back home why Normalized doesn't show the context. We need to wrap up anyway for the 12.1 release.
Then I need to re-check all the symbols, usage messages, contexts, etc..
eduardoofthehour
@eduardoofthehour
@halirutan Hi, thanks for taking the time to answer, I guess I will make an exception and subscribe in spite of how much I hate subcription monetisation models, partly because I wanna say thanks for all the unpaid work so far.
But I really realy don't want them, if, in the future, it becomes unaffordable to me, I might be locked out of a significant investment in terms of learning how to learn the plugin
Szabolcs Horvát
@szhorvat
@halirutan Could you give me a link to the Mathematica code that extracts this information? Perhaps I can submit an improvement and work around these individual issues.
The Gitter desktop app is not working at all for me today. Generally, Gitter has been unrealiable recently and it stopped sending me emails a long time ago. Anyone else having problems?
Patrick Scheibe
@halirutan
@szhorvat I also don't get emails. I just have to check every once in a while. This is the reason I'm sometimes slow to respond. I'd like to switch to Slack, but I'm not sure since people need to get invited.
In any case, you can always write me in our Mathematica Slack in the plugin channel. I just invited you.