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    José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
    @jvesouza
    @isidorn So far so goods.
    Isidor Nikolic
    @isidorn
    Awesome
    José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
    @jvesouza
    @isidorn I found some messages in the console when I run code-exploration.

    @isidorn When I run code-exploration I receive in the console the following:

    (electron) Sending uncompressed crash reports is deprecated and will be removed
    in a future version of Electron. Set { compress: true } to opt-in to the new beh
    avior. Crash reports will be uploaded gzipped, which most crash reporting server
    s support.
    [main 2020-11-20T14:03:44.415Z] update#setState idle
    (node:151737) electron: The default of contextIsolation is deprecated and will b
    e changing from false to true in a future release of Electron. See https://gith
    ub.com/electron/electron/issues/23506 for more information
    (node:151737) electron: The default of contextIsolation is deprecated and will b
    e changing from false to true in a future release of Electron. See https://gith
    ub.com/electron/electron/issues/23506 for more information
    bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device
    bash: no job control in this shell
    bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en-US)
    (node:151737) electron: The default of contextIsolation is deprecated and will b
    e changing from false to true in a future release of Electron. See https://gith
    ub.com/electron/electron/issues/23506 for more information
    [main 2020-11-20T14:04:14.425Z] update#setState checking for updates
    [main 2020-11-20T14:04:14.605Z] update#setState idle
    [main 2020-11-20T14:06:25.906Z] update#setState checking for updates
    [main 2020-11-20T14:06:26.639Z] update#setState idle
    ^[[BIO

    Should I report this message in some issue?

    Isidor Nikolic
    @isidorn
    @jvesouza yes, can you please create a new issue and I can forward to Deepak who takes care of our Electron adoption. Thanks!
    Michał Zegan
    @webczat
    these bash messages interest me. it would show only if bash is run detached from session/without controlling terminal, I assume bash in terminal is properly handled... well it is, othervise it would display that in terminal
    José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
    @jvesouza
    @isidorn Done at microsoft/vscode#111046
    Michał Zegan
    @webczat
    hmm any ideas? in case of orca I see sudden jumps to browse mode, for example when I just go to the file menu and start navigating it with up arrow, suddenly I am switched to browse mode. I am not sure if I saw that happening before (I have latest insiders) but I definitely saw it in other situations, for example going to code actions and navigating.
    I am not sure if it's about mode switch exactly but I suddenly find myself navigating in browse mode through some area like editor
    Isidor Nikolic
    @isidorn
    @jvesouza thanks! I see Rob already commented and closed - sorry about that. Though it is good to have it in our issues so other users are also aware. I have also pinged Deepak so he is aware of it
    @webczat for bash messages best would be to comment on the issue José created. For Orca switiching to browse mode best would be to find repro steps and create an issue so we can also involve Joan Marie and we all investigate. Thanks!
    Michał Zegan
    @webczat
    sure. that's why I report here first, because maybe someone except me has better repro steps, as I am almost sure I saw this happening without mode switching and it just seems a bit weird to me. will definitely investigate further
    Isidor Nikolic
    @isidorn
    Hi all. We are looking into improving our notebook accessibility support. Our plan is to first caputre the issues and discuss a potential solution, once we have that we will produce a couple of exploration builds to gather feedback.
    If you are interested in this topic you can chime in on this issue where we will do the discussion microsoft/vscode#111255
    Michał Zegan
    @webczat
    hello, good to hear.
    José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
    @jvesouza
    Hello all, code-insiders now is using electron 11.
    Michał Zegan
    @webczat
    thanks for info
    Chris Norman
    @chrisnorman7
    Hi all, is there a setting you can change to turn off the new ability to move your cursor while suggestions are shwon? I'm sure I've seen it, but can't find it now.
    *Shown.
    Jared Stofflett
    @jareds
    What does electron 11 give me isn’t NVDA user anything
    Michał Zegan
    @webczat
    well actually I believe it improves our, that is linux user, experience a bit, from what I can tell
    José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
    @jvesouza
    @jareds Some bugs have been fixed, including one that apparently affects nvda users. microsoft/vscode#104673
    Michał Zegan
    @webczat
    ooh saw that, forgot about it
    Isidor Nikolic
    @isidorn
    Electron 11 also fixes some other issues, here's a full list https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Afixed-in-electron-11
    Isidor Nikolic
    @isidorn
    @chrisnorman7 @Menelion here's a workaround for the suggest box not closing https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/110193#issuecomment-723846492
    Basically you just have to set a custom keybinding to work around it
    Dickson Tan
    @Neurrone
    I'm using NVDA on windows and I think the recent upgrade to 11.x basically rendered it unuseable for me. I get no spoken feedback at all when doing anything. I'm not even able to use the menu to go to the report an issue option, hence why I'm mentioning it here. Hoping this can be prioritized as a critical regression
    Alexander Epaneshnikov
    @alex19EP
    hello everyone since code-insiders switched to electron 11 i started to experience orca hangs. I noticed this even in research builds, but unfortunately then, @joanmarie_gitlab could not figure out what was the matter. this hangs aren't happens every time when code starts, but when it did, i need to execute "orca -r".
    Alexander Epaneshnikov
    @alex19EP
    @Neurrone hm... strange i can't reproduce. for me latest insider working grate with nvda. can you provide your code version? just execute: code-insiders --version in cmd.
    Dickson Tan
    @Neurrone
    1.52.0-insider
    0a80aacc7be1ab03ec0f94b8ac1a84949a83f35d
    x64
    Hmmmm strange, maybe it was an NVDA problem. I wasn't current with the alphas using one that was from a week or 2 ago but after updating to the latest snapshot build and restarting Vs Code, that issue disappears.
    Sorry for the false alarm
    Alexander Epaneshnikov
    @alex19EP

    @Neurrone

    0a80aacc7be1ab03ec0f94b8ac1a84949a83f35d

    yep. that's latest version

    Sorry for the false alarm.

    no problem. glad that you sorted it out.

    Michał Zegan
    @webczat
    I still don't have the latest one because archlinux... I switched to insiders from aur
    Alexander Epaneshnikov
    @alex19EP
    @webczat I didn't quite understand you.
    Michał Zegan
    @webczat
    no latest insiders in aur
    Alexander Epaneshnikov
    @alex19EP
    i am using visual-studio-code-insiders-bin-1606375471-1 from aur
    Michał Zegan
    @webczat
    my help/about says it's from 20'th november so probably a bit old and electron9
    oh sec
    I probably see it now
    Alexander Epaneshnikov
    @alex19EP
    and it is latest. it wouldn't auto update, so you need to rebuild it with your aur helper
    Michał Zegan
    @webczat
    actually this is broken because it shows a new version when I query but ... hrmm nvm
    got it
    Alexander Epaneshnikov
    @alex19EP
    hm. maybe you have another version in your path?
    Michał Zegan
    @webczat
    no, actually got it. not sure what I was seeing, but now I have the correct one
    Alexander Epaneshnikov
    @alex19EP
    yay!
    José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
    @jvesouza
    @Neurrone @alex19EP Are you calling code-insiders present in the bin directory of VSCode? I am asking because there is a code-insiders file present in the VScode directory and I had problems when I called this program.
    Isidor Nikolic
    @isidorn
    @Neurrone ok, glad to hear all is good with latest
    Isidor Nikolic
    @isidorn
    FYI we will be moving back to Electron 9 in insiders from tomrrow and stable will be Electron 9. Next insiders from next week will be back on Electron 11, since we want to ship E11 as part of the December stable release - to get more self hosting time on Inisders.
    Alexander Epaneshnikov
    @alex19EP

    @jvesouza i I'm sure I'm using the correct file.

    @isidorn thanks for the warning. I will pause the update for now.

    Dickson Tan
    @Neurrone
    @jvesouza I was restarting Vs Code from help -> restart to update, and I normally start Vs Code in windows from the start menu using the shortcut