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dvdv
@dvdv_gitlab
too strong ISFs (read: too low ISF values) lead to a similar though somewhat different behavior
that one becomes obvious when you keep in mind that AndroidAPS is essentially a control loop. and what happens when a control loop regulates too aggressively?
Penta
@Pentagit
my isf values are pretty high i guess (around 80mg/dl) , i just reduced my basal rate a bit and will watch the behaviour of the loop more closely
John Kitching
@JohnKitching
@Pentagit AutoTuneWeb is worth a look if you’re using NightScout.
Penta
@Pentagit
@JohnKitching autotune is the reason my basal is quite high and shows negative ;)
chrisbev
@chrisbev
PR help please, I would like to test a PR but since the Git site moved Android Studio complains about missing token and I'm not logged in but I think I am. Any suggestions please?
TinoLL
@TinoLL
Are there any plans to support the new smart watches from Apple und Samsung which can measure blood glucose with AAPS in the future? I know they are not yet available. But if so...? Thanks
swissalpine
@swissalpine
Is it my fault because I shot something in the current/yesterday's AAPS dev version when merging - or do other users still have problems getting blood glucose values from xDrip+. Thanks for your answers.
Andy Rozman
@andyrozman
@TinoLL There are no such plans at the moment... But this things usually get supported when a developer or developer-like person gets such a watch and wants to add support, he goes and just does it...
JustinSouthcombe
@JustinSouthcombe
Getting this error on MDT build "Kotlin Android Extensions is deprecated" and being prompted to modify to Jetpack. I am not used to changing APS code directly - do I need to do anything? Thanks.
Milos Kozak
@MilosKozak
It’s warning only
cheers2
@cheers2
would it be possible to input the carbs alarm when using prebolus also to the carbs menu and not only to the calculator (v 2.8.2)?
Milos Kozak
@MilosKozak
yes, create feature request
Djuric
@dircsem
[off-topic] is there a chatroom from developers of the nightscout project? I want to create an additional table to my nightscout and would like to ask if there are any guidance on that
Foxy7
@Foxy7
@dirceusemighini the Nightscout help has migrated over to discord. https://discord.gg/zg7CvCQ best to ask on there now.
there is a dev chat too
Djuric
@dircsem
Thanks @Foxy7
Djuric
@dircsem

Are there any plans to support the new smart watches from Apple und Samsung which can measure blood glucose with AAPS in the future? I know they are not yet available. But if so...? Thanks

Is that officially announced that this watches will measure blood glucose?

teleriddler
@teleriddler

@dirceusemighini No, it is just speculation at the moment but given the ekg function they added last time and the massive market for Type 2 diabetics and amatuer/professional athletes looking to measure blood sugar it would make sense if the technology is feasible. I would guess that it will exact enough for those groups but I would not expect the values to be exact enough to loop with. Raman spectroscopy for blood glucose applications is not that refined yet and the leaked image is shown with the larger prototype on a pig, not a human.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raman_spectroscopy
https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/article/77451/raman-spectroscopy-as-a-blood-glucose-monitoring-tool/

dvdv
@dvdv_gitlab
I think raman spectroscopy can be accurate enough, but at the cost of size
Djuric
@dircsem

@dirceusemighini No, it is just speculation at the moment but given the ekg function they added last time and the massive market for Type 2 diabetics and amatuer/professional athletes looking to measure blood sugar it would make sense if the technology is feasible. I would guess that it will exact enough for those groups but I would not expect the values to be exact enough to loop with. Raman spectroscopy for blood glucose applications is not that refined yet and the leaked image is shown with the larger prototype on a pig, not a human.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raman_spectroscopy
https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/article/77451/raman-spectroscopy-as-a-blood-glucose-monitoring-tool/

Thanks @teleriddler I'm searching for a watch to buy to see my bg, and my thoughts was that it wouldn't be that precise, but maybe it can evolve faster than the other sensors.

teleriddler
@teleriddler

Understandable, I have also been looking at watches as well and to have a general idea of where you are would be good but when I am already wearing a CGM that is probably more accurate I would assume just use XDrip to get the readings to the watch, however would always be good to have a backup if the sensor fails.

@dvdv_gitlab correct, the science is sound and exact but miniaturization has been a problem in the past. Who knows maybe Samsung and Apple have figured something out the others could not. Google dropped their glucose watch project a while back, I am guessing they hit a similar barrier with shrinking the package. The device sitting on the pig in the picture did not seem to reflect a wearable watch that a consumer would buy but there is not a timestamp on the image so if could be older than we think. Hoping for the best regardless and interested to see what comes in 2021.

To break through the limitations that arose in prior studies, Samsung’s researchers developed an off-axis Raman spectroscopy system that enables the direct observation of glucose Raman peaks from in vivo skin. Utilizing this system, they demonstrated one of the highest prediction accuracies among non-invasive technologies. The research team also developed an innovative technique for reducing the effects of movement artifacts on glucose sensing in Raman spectroscopy.

Understandable, I have also been looking at watches as well and to have a general idea of where you are would be good but when I am already wearing a CGM that is probably more accurate I would assume just use XDrip to get the readings to the watch, however would always be good to have a backup if the sensor fails.

@dvdv_gitlab correct, the science is sound and exact but miniaturization has been a problem in the past. Who knows maybe Samsung and Apple have figured something out the others could not. Google dropped their glucose watch project a while back, I am guessing they hit a similar barrier with shrinking the package. The device sitting on the pig in the picture did not seem to reflect a wearable watch that a consumer would buy but there is not a timestamp on the image so if could be older than we think. Hoping for the best regardless and interested to see what comes in 2021.

I hope that it can evolve to be more than just a backup. Another barrier is that it will need to be approved by the health agencies (aka FDA) to be used?

dvdv
@dvdv_gitlab
That would not be a hindrance for DIY folks ;)
teleriddler
@teleriddler
@dvdv_gitlab good find, the off-axis approach must be yielding better results and saving space, I did not read that in the Korean article I found. Thanks for sharing.
Martin Esser
@TinoLL_gitlab
Pref2021_OV_Adv.png
Is this a bug? This percentage seems to influence the superbolus as well as the bolus. I didn't find another place to define the percentage of the superbolus. E.g. I want 100% bolus from what the bolus calculator calculated but only 80% for the super bolus. How can I do that, please? Thanks
szantos
@szantos
@TinoLL_gitlab
Currently superbolus is hardcoded with 2 hours of basal and the % (deliver this part of bolus wizard result) applies for everything.
szantos
@szantos
@TinoLL_gitlab see also nightscout/AndroidAPS#300
TinoLL
@TinoLL
Thank you
Mark Brighton
@seattlebrighton
Anyone else here using Amazfit band 5? I just got it working with xDrip+, with some code changes in case others are interested. I'd like to get HR data from xDrip into AAPS to be used for automation. Please. tell me if anyone is working on that or already done it. Thanks.
Mark Brighton
@seattlebrighton
Amazfit band 5 costs $35, has 5+ days battery, waterproof, shows BG from xDrip, alerts me when it sees I'm being active. If the active alert could also include an AAPS automation, that would eliminate lows when I kitesurf, bike, ski, etc. and forget to set a high target.
Djuric
@dircsem
Hi Mark, I don't have a band, but I want to buy an Amazfit watch. I'm also trying to get information from smartwatches and put it together at someplace available to public access.
What do you plan to do with HR dat? Will you try to predict BG variations using that info?
wwwired
@wwwired
@seattlebrighton & @dirceusemighini - i've just started using a Mi Band 4 and was hoping to do very similar. IF HR >115 THEN SET TEMP ACTIVITY TARGET or something similar. When i'm planning to exercise i always use the TT's, but it's those unexpected activities that i think might benefit from an early high TT as opposed to just watching the drop 5-10 minutes later.
Mark Brighton
@seattlebrighton
@dirceusemighini @wwwired - Yes, Ideally I'd like to automate an adjustment to AAPS tuning based on "exercise effort" (measured by HR or other inputs like steps or some combination), adjusting Temp Target BG, and possibly Carb Decay and Insulin Activity Duration. I think those make the most sense, biologically. For now, I'll be happy getting 80% of the benefit by using just HR to set a TT of 140 mg/dl and maybe setting Insulin Sensitivity up by 20/40/60%, depending on HR range. I updated xDrip-plus code to properly recognize Amazfit bands and that code already has some HR handlers in it. Tell me if you know anyone who might know how to get HR data from xDrip (or Google Fit if necessary) into AAPS, to allow automation to use it. If you have other skills or experience with this, I could use your help.
Penta
@Pentagit
What is the purpose of the FOOD tab which displays the food presets defined in nightscout? It only shows the foods but it is not possible to use foods for carb-entries or such things.
Djuric
@dircsem

@dirceusemighini @wwwired - Yes, Ideally I'd like to automate an adjustment to AAPS tuning based on "exercise effort" (measured by HR or other inputs like steps or some combination), adjusting Temp Target BG, and possibly Carb Decay and Insulin Activity Duration. I think those make the most sense, biologically. For now, I'll be happy getting 80% of the benefit by using just HR to set a TT of 140 mg/dl and maybe setting Insulin Sensitivity up by 20/40/60%, depending on HR range. I updated xDrip-plus code to properly recognize Amazfit bands and that code already has some HR handlers in it. Tell me if you know anyone who might know how to get HR data from xDrip (or Google Fit if necessary) into AAPS, to allow automation to use it. If you have other skills or experience with this, I could use your help.

Very interesting, do you have a lot of hipos? I never thought on correlating it, this seems to be a great thing to do, for those who does a lot of sports. The main idea is to suspend before BG start dropping when HR is high? A question I have is, how precise is the HR sensor of your band? It's mi band 5 of just band 5?

What is the purpose of the FOOD tab which displays the food presets defined in nightscout? It only shows the foods but it is not possible to use foods for carb-entries or such things.

Where is this FOOD tab? I saw this collection at my mongo, but I didn't see any data on it, and I have a doubt that what was this used for?

Foxy7
@Foxy7
@seattlebrighton i was thinking about heart rate too recently, but as it's for my daughter I didn't think i could permanently get a watch on her. however i watched this video and realised that exercise/heart rate is way more complicated than i expected, and explains a few things historically i've not been able to work out before. https://www.diabettech.com/living-with-looping/living-with-looping-january-2021-the-replay/ scroll down to the box "Managing Exercise with a DIYAPS (or a commercial one!):"
rosaasor1
@rosaasor1
In the Actions screen, my Canula age displays: "-8327d-12h". Happened when I switched from my main Medtronic pump to backup. Doesn´t help to register a new pump site/insulin cartridge change. Believe an incorrect entry is registered somewhere. Using AAPS 2.8.2. Any advice?
Djuric
@dircsem
there seems to be a register in the future, I've had that with an incorrect bg reading and to fix it I needed to clean all aaps data. I don't know if this is the best approach to fix it, and if you do that, be aware that you will loose the data of battery change, sensor change, and everyting else.
dvdv
@dvdv_gitlab
Combining the food tab with the bolus calculator would be really great.
Or perhaps some way to allow EasyFPU to communicate with AndroidAPS so that both carbs and ecarbs are added based on the EasyFPU calculations
Djuric
@dircsem
Does EasyFPU write data to nightscout?
dvdv
@dvdv_gitlab
Nope. Entirely independent app
Great app tho