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John Kitching
@JohnKitching
Would a simple, safe solution be to have a create new profile option that takes a u100 profile and does the maths to create a u200 profile? Half basals, double ISF and CR? Is that it?
The existing code wouldn’t need to change would it?
larsqvd
@larsqvd
omnipod is working activly on getting certification for 200 u/ml and potentially even 500 U/ml for high insulin resistance patients and/or people with a higher than a 200 U requirement for three days.
Guy Davies
@guydavies
@JohnKitching I don't know. If there's an assumption anywhere in the code that 1ml == 100u, even in a driver, that might make life dangerous. I don't have sufficient knowledge of the code to say.
Dirceu Semighini Filho
@dirceusemighini
Can't it be used as a new insulin type, as you apply the concentration factor for all profile fields?
I see a lot of mothers of young/babies t1d having problems with 100ui/ml insulins, are there any kind of few concentrated, like 50ui/ml for kids?
John Kitching
@JohnKitching
@guydavies I have zero knowledge of the code but I can’t come up with anything in theory that makes u200 in a resistant person any different to u100 in a sensitive person. Everything has to come back to ISF, CR etc doesn’t it?
I think u100 only means something in a lab, not in the real world because of the massively different requirements between different people.
larsqvd
@larsqvd
Potentially only confusing messages from the insulin provider or GP compared to what will be used in AAPS during the transition phase from u100 to u200.
seware74
@seware74
I am one who uses U200 in omnipod. My daily insulin requirement is about 150 units, so with U100 a 200ml pod would only give me 32 hours. After getting comfortable with AAPS I got my endo to prescribe U200 so that my pod will last closer to 64 hours. Just changes to basal ISF and CR are required. I made a profile like that and it works brilliantly. I only have to remember to cut any manual boluses in half. It would be great to see AAPS support multiple insulins strengths but I'm doing okay like it is. Also, I have to remember to translate my averages for the endo so she doesn't think I'm at half daily usage.
Raymond Richmond
@PedanticAvenger
And for me my daily requirement is about 100 units so really same boat. If I want 3 days out of a pod I need U200. I am also comfortable doing the calculations but doing that means that all my nightscout data must be "interpreted" rather than just "read". I will try to take a look at the various pump drivers but the interface between the driver and the rest of AAPS should be able to take care of that as I'm assuming that has been standardised. Internally divide units by 2 when sending a bolus or setting a basal. The rest isn't relevant to the pump but the calculations.
John Kitching
@JohnKitching
@PedanticAvenger I’m not sure you need to do that. If you double your CR then bolus and NS would be correct wouldn’t they? Same with ISF.
Raymond Richmond
@PedanticAvenger
@JohnKitching Except that now NS shows 5 Units bolus when in actuality it is 10 Units. And my endo has to think the math when judging the CR and ISF values.
John Kitching
@JohnKitching
Personally I’d rather live with CR and ISF being wrong and NS and boluses being right.
Raymond Richmond
@PedanticAvenger
But with the system not knowing about the insulin concentrations differences the NS and boluses will never be right. I will always have to divide boluses by 2 to avoid overdosing.
John Kitching
@JohnKitching
I’d argue that CR and ISF would be correct (for u200)
NS and bolus would be right if you double CR and ISF unless I’m missing something.
If I were to switch from u100 to u200 I’d half every basal rate, double CR, double ISF and I think everything would work as it did before. I’m happy to be proven wrong though.
seware74
@seware74
@JohnKitching that's exactly what I'm doing with U200. Everything works perfectly on an automatic basis except reporting, but I don't use NS anyway. Anything manual requires a divide by 2. Been doing this since April 2020 and having no problems.
John Kitching
@JohnKitching
@seware74 that’s good to hear. Thanks for sharing. I’m glad I wasn’t going completely mad 😏
Raymond Richmond
@PedanticAvenger
You're not going mad, but it's a goal to have the ENTIRE system reflect reality correcty.
The treatments would be fine but you would always have to remind your Endo "But the records I just gave you all have to be translated." And while every Endo is different mine would NOT be happy with having to do that. They are used to seeing data in a certain way all day long and now along comes this speed bump.
seware74
@seware74
@PedanticAvenger You're not wrong. In my case I provide my endo with the treatment data and the bgs come from tidepool. It would be great to have everything perfect but for now I'm happy to be able to be free of tubes (no more medtronic for me) and looping successfully despite my high insulin needs. Now, if only I could refill a pod... :)
wootmaster
@wootmasterslick
Shouldn’t the U to volume for the injection be converted by the pump/pump driver?
Raymond Richmond
@PedanticAvenger
The pump yes.
seware74
@seware74
@wootmasterslick ideally yes at the pump, but because currently there are no pumps that support multiple concentrations of insulin (that I'm aware of) nor are there any that support anything other than U100 (that I'm aware of), in the spirit of "we are not waiting" a pump designed for U100 is being used for U200 for instance. Handling in the profile is a workaround until new pumps emerge. I think the OP is just asking to simplify the workaround so that all inputs and outputs appear accurately.
Raymond Richmond
@PedanticAvenger
That would be correct.
I think much of this will need to be done anyway as Omnipods are supposed to be U200 certified sometime in the near future and AAPS is acting like the PDM. But who knows, it might be a flag you simply have to set in the pod (or in the pump for any future compliant ACE enabled pumps.).
Milos Kozak
@MilosKozak
U200 Support would not be hard . But so far I decided risk is higher than gain. Now you can use 50% profile. With U200 user would keep track of using u200 insulin when giving correction bolus etc. and one wrong checked checkbox could lead to fatal overdosing
Xenocide23
@Xenocide23
Hello all, I've been using OpenAPS for the past 4 years and am looking to change to AndroidAPS as my intel edison finally died and the rasperry pi is not very portable. Is there anyway to bypass objectives in v2.8 of Android APS? Spending a full week in open loop followed by another week in Low Glucose suspend mode seems really long when I'm deeply familiar with how looping works.
Martin Esser
@TinoLL_gitlab
There is a way to contact the delelopers to get a certain code for that. You have to show them that you are experienced. As I recall the use of NightScout has to be shown. Please look into AAPS and the documentation.
chrisbev
@chrisbev
@Xenocide23 run with a virtual pump at same time as exising may work to get to know AAPS?
Guy Davies
@guydavies
@TinoLL_gitlab that's not possible a
Anymore.
Martin Esser
@TinoLL_gitlab
Ok. Then he may use 2.7 and do it there
Mario
@Alamo04
Hi all,
Mario
@Alamo04
have a problem with XDrip, Dexcom G6 Native Mode and the new Dev versions. Can't use SMB with that combination anymore. It's a safety thing: "BG source doesn't smooth values enough". Never had this issue, the Master is running fine with XDrip and SMB. Can someone confirm, that I'm not alone with that.
Have found a workaround, to use SMB with XDrip in the latest dev, but I have to do a bad trick to get it work.
Bert Roode
@bertroode
My History browser does act a bit strange. When e.g. I want to browse back one day he values will not be displayed unless I check e.g. the Predictions box. Are there any known problems whith the History browser?
sks01
@sks01
Hey guys
Any Idea of what could trigger a "Found the strange 133 bug" error in the log file where RileyLink is queried for subg_rfspy version?
21:02:57.217 [Binder:31734_2] D/PUMPBTCOMM: [RileyLinkBLE$1.onCharacteristicWrite():111]: Binder:31734_2[2821]onCharacteristicWrite Found the strange 133 bug Data 01 02
The device is actually an EmaLink but I guess this would not make a difference for this GattStatusMessage
sks01
@sks01
Could it be some buffer overflow? EmaLink send back a slighty longer string as a response (3 characters longer to be precise)
JamOrHam
@jamorham
Does anyone know if the current latest models of Insight are still good as I heard they no longer provide them with the handset?
chrisbev
@chrisbev
@jamorham just received replacement in UK as top hat bit on end of plunger fell off. V3.00.17 same as previous, connected just fine updated profile after a little bit (as beginning to wonder?) and went off easy. Just a few other settings to do. Yes just pump no handset. Just wondering if I should run for a few days on water to purge logs?
Bert Roode
@bertroode
@jamorham The latest model are using the mySugar app. Roche has also started a collaboration with Diabeloop's BBLG1. So now there is a closed loop available from the Diabeloop handset with the Accu chek Insight pump.
Bert Roode
@bertroode
I recently noticed that there are problems with the communication between my "old" Insight pump V 2.01.03 and AAPS 2.8.2 When the cartridge reaches 25 units my smartphone sounds a warning but no message will be displayed and I can only use the pump to acknowledge the warning. Also I notices that sometimes the pump stays connected to the smartphone. In that situation I have to restart AAPS or the phone to restore the functions. May be these two issues are related. Next time the cartridge gets to the 25-level, I will check if the blue tooth communication stays on after the warning. In that case I will report it as a problem.
wootmaster
@wootmasterslick
Isnt it that you always have to acknowledge the insulin low alert on the pump.
Robin Sue
@Suchiman
@wootmasterslick no, if AAPS happens to be connected when the alarm starts or connects while the alarm is going on, it will pop up an alert on the phone where you can either silence or dismiss the alert which also dismisses it on the pump