These are chat archives for MontCode/GeneralChat

27th
Sep 2016
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 13:29
Thanks @Lilyheart . I never used this chat system before, takes a little getting used to lol. Is there a standalone client you'd recommend or just use the web interface?
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 13:31
mac osx has a great gitter app. Windows not so much. I just use the web there. Android’s app is middling. Like to crash sometimes but is functional for the most part. I don’t know about iOS. Only “issue” with the mobile is if you have the web app open somewhere (like say you leave a browser window open while you are out and about) you won’t get notifications of messages.
@ScriptMonkey00 I’m not sure which webpage you are on. https://gitter.im/MontCode/GeneralChat is the direct page. But, http://chat.montcode.com gives some more information on how to use gitter in an info box. Includes a markdown cheatsheet and a link to a list of all the emoji :clap:
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 13:39
Thanks so much, @Lilyheart .. I'm running Windows at home, Linux laptop, and android phone so I might give the app a try there.
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 13:40
Awesome. @davidjcastner or @dcpking have you used the linux app? I haven’t yet… I’m curious about your feedback if any.
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 13:43
So is there a generally spoken about language you montcoders talk about most or just whatever comes up? :)
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 13:49
Mostly web development type languages, (lots of JavaScript), but we hit other topics as well. Git/GitHub commands and linux commands as they are nearly a language in their own right.
Might hear a bit of Java right now. Quite a few of us are in the same course at Montgomery County Community College and it is Java based.
The library meet-ups occasionally go over hardware type programming. Small boards, Arduino and the like.
Many members are going through the www.freecodecamp.com curriculum and supplementing with other websites as necessary.
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 13:55
gotcha :) I'm trying to self-teach myself java/android dev.. made my first simple app to solve a task I needed resolved, but I wouldn't say I'm anything of an expert.
self-teach myself... wow that's a really lousy phrase :)
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 13:58
Heading into lecture, not abandoning you xD
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 13:58
lol thanks :) and the windows client actually isn't that bad
Eric Phy
@SimplyPhy
Sep 27 2016 14:32
I’m really enjoying codeacademy’s react tuts
much more coherent than treehouse this time
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 15:02
@Lilyheart I use the linux app for gitter it's decent, doesn't crash on me but I don't always get notifications if the window is closed
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 15:05
@lantech19446 Thanks! I'll give it a try next time I'm on my chromebook
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 16:14
Thanks Jon! I appreciate it! Sorry I didn’t tag you. I was rushin’ as class had already technically started, but lecture hasn’t actually begun yet.
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 16:14
it's all good, I haven't been around as much as I used too anyway
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 16:29
It’s a pain tagging people on mobile sometimes.
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 18:43
@ScriptMonkey00 I’ve done some android dev. More power to you :laughing: Not my cuppa :coffee: blah android studio
JBC944
@JBC944
Sep 27 2016 18:49
has anyone ever made a css style sheet that nothing works whatever you type into it?
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:04
No :/ Are you sure you have linked to it correctly? Check the console and see if you are getting an error.
JBC944
@JBC944
Sep 27 2016 19:06
Screenshot_2.png
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:07
Check your <link> tag
JBC944
@JBC944
Sep 27 2016 19:10
it looks okay to me
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:10
what can go in the rel?
JBC944
@JBC944
Sep 27 2016 19:12
is it the spaces
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:12
only certain values are allowed in rel
it Specifies the relationship between the current document and the linked document which means that rel tells the browser what kind of page you are linking to.
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:14
The only valid "rel" values are:
alternate
author
dns-prefetch
help
icon
license
next
pingback
preconnect
prefetch
preload
prerender
prev
search
stylesheet
Change it to "stylesheet" and you should be good to go
source = w3 schools :)
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:15
I linked to that above @ScriptMonkey00
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:16
oh! lol, sorry.
so.. what she said? :)
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:16
:laughing:
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:17
I don't think I've ever used a rel that wasn't stylesheet..
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:17
xD In chat, we have more a teach not tell atmosphere. One of the most important things a programmer can learn is how to read documentation.
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:18
gotcha... that's actually one of the lines I use in interviews (conducting them)... Good developers don't know all the commands.. they know where to FIND the commands :)
Sorry to buck the trend :) I'll catch on
JBC944
@JBC944
Sep 27 2016 19:19
it worked okay i feel stupid at the moment
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:19
That means most of the time we will send you a link where to find the answer. Get ya pointed in the right direction xD
Like @ScriptMonkey00 said, Good developers don’t know all the commands! SO TRUE. Read Search Ask
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:20
right now the thing I'm trying to find out is the best suggestion for using an Arduino (Pi Zero) to control power to a MOLEX 4-pin connector..
(I want to remote-control the LED and cold-cathodes in my PC... no laughing :) )
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:21
I can’t. You haven’t heard about my automated house xD
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:21
@JBC944 Don't feel bad.. I've been in the field for... a while :) and I can tell you that the only reason I answered that question.. and likely Lily too, is that somewhere a while back, we ASKED it :)
@Lilyheart Is there a breadboard-style molex power controling... thing? :)
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:23
I use this code to control a huzzah board that has been soldered inside a cheap light from amazon https://github.com/rgrokett/ESP8266_aurora_master/blob/master/sketch/WiFiWebServer/WiFiWebServer.ino
might at least give you a starting point
Exactly what @ScriptMonkey00 said @JBC944 . Whenever a .css files doesn’t work, the first thing I look at is the link tag. Usually I type the file name wrong or reference the folder incorrectly :laughing:
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:26
code is perfect, thanks! :) but I still don't know how to get molex controlled by the arduino.. I'm hoping that I don't need to break out the pins... that would suck lol
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:26
I’ll ask my roommie when I get home if he has any suggestions
I’m more software, he’s more hardware.
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:27
I'm a LOT more software... hence why I'm stuck LOL
thanks :)
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:27
I WANT to know hardware… but I LOVE software. And there are only so many hours in the day.
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:27
that's why I made up this lighting thing... it's fun, and simple, and not expensive, and I can dabble in hardware a little
thoughu I just got my pi to boot and the mouse was intermittant and the video was AWFUL so I think it might be bad adaptors, or a crapped pi :( :(
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:29
heh. I haven’t gotten a raspberry pi zero yet. I’ve used the larger raspberries (one controls my house.. his name is HAL9000, others are squeezeboxes). Arduinos… I’ve used huzzah and uno. I’m sitting on 30 mini pro’s for sensor nodes in my house, but I don’t have the time to do anything with them yet.
try a new SD card too. Those things can die out sooooo fast.
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:30
it's brand new and worked fine in my pc... booted, and when the mouse DID work, I got it to install raspbian fine from NOOBS so it seems good... then the mouse stopped working and I was kinda done... lol FYI my home PC is also named "HAL" :)
last one was Erwin
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:32
SD cards are so easy to kill in a raspberry. I have a backup stack xD I have a pi3 that HAL will transfer too once I get it so that the main “drive” is an SSD… I just have to figure out all that… in my spare time… :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:39
so can I ask.. are most people here careers, or dabblers, or a mix?
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:40
Mix
Careered techs, careered techs who want to shift to new tech, hobbyists, and people from other walks of life who want to get into tech careers.
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:42
I'm one of those religous line crossers.. I used to do hardware/networking.... then jumped to software dev.. which is funny because now when I tell someone "it's a hardware problem" they actually listen, because I can usually tell them what the problem was :)
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:43
ugh networking. I dislike networking. It’s just… so… ugh….
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 19:44
lol Networking makes so much more sense than JS though
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:44
I feel ya, @lantech19446
:)
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:44
xD I’m glad that works out for you that way xD Not so much for me.
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 19:45
I'm still doing networking now though, once you learn it it's easy
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:45
xD That’s how I feel about JS. Variety is the spice of life.
I’m glad networking makes sense to other people. That means they can do it, and not me.
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 19:47
lol now if only other people could do the JS for me lol
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:48
Lily can :)
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 19:49
yea lily or phy
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:50
I actually know some fairly decent Angular... then I heard they threw it all out when they made 2
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 19:50
we could start one heck of a business here though, you and I could build the servers lily can do the html/css let eric handle JS and Dave can jump in wherever needed
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 19:50
I heard they are very different but I don’t know the details.
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 19:50
@Lilyheart I heard yo pretty much can't reuse anything :(
Sounds good to me, @lantech19446 ... I love building rigs, it's fun :)
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 20:29
yep as much as I hated server theory I love working on them
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 20:56
Yay chat. What is everyone working on lately? Doesn't have to be web dev related
I've been working on being not sick and school work. Java class is startin' to get srs.
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 21:21
I'm working on procuring a banjo for free or very close to it
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 21:22
ooooooh that would be fun. I want a ukulele!
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 21:22
I can't even SPELL ukulele
:)
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 21:22
but... you ... just... did.......
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 21:22
that would be awesome, if we both get them lets find a bagpiper and start a really shitty irish punk band
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 21:22
nope, you did.. copy/paste :)
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 21:23
neither did I xD spellcheck.
@lantech19446 that would be funny
I used to be able to sing... I haven't in a long time tho...
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 21:23
there's no singing in punk rock lol
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 21:24
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 21:25
lol
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 21:26
Singing skills can be used in any genre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gUcnUjhRX0
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 21:27
lol an error occured
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 21:27
Death metal scales
lol found it, must share that with a friend of mine who has quite a bit of weird death metal from around the world
and now your post begins its travels around the world lol
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 21:33
heh. Well, it's travels started in Sweden as that is where I was the the first time I saw it.
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 21:33
this guy is actually really good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKS1WTM6fzg
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 21:34
That is amazing.
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 21:34
yea that was the next video after yours and I was like holy crap
have we scared you off @ScriptMonkey00 ?
ScriptMonkey00
@ScriptMonkey00
Sep 27 2016 21:39
haha no, I was still working
but dinner just arrived.. tuesday evening is actually REALLY hectic for me, but I wanted to make friends before it started.. and I'll catch everyone tomorrow! :) have a great MEET tonight guys :)
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 21:40
Heh, we are in chat every day! See ya around!
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 21:41
have a great night, nice meeting you
so far no banjos on letgo or freecycle
Eric Phy
@SimplyPhy
Sep 27 2016 21:46
@Lilyheart still working on react…probs will be through tomorrow
then comes angular 2, i think
not sure whether or not to learn angular first, or typescript...
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 21:51
I dunno if there is any advantage to learning one before the other. So, which one sounds like a more interesting project?
Eric Phy
@SimplyPhy
Sep 27 2016 22:00
i think i’ll go angular first, since i need da $$s asap xD
typescript can wait
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 22:04
That sounds like some solid reasoning @SimplyPhy !
Eric Phy
@SimplyPhy
Sep 27 2016 22:11
ugh. Been studying for 8 hours 15 minutes straight
totally burned out
need….break
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 22:11
kit kat bar?
Eric Phy
@SimplyPhy
Sep 27 2016 22:11
ha yeah right
gym and a feast
i can work for long hours without too much hassle, but pumping knowledge into my brain for 8 hours, that’s a doozy
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Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 22:12
you got it xD
yeah, gotta give the brain a chance to absorb.
you remember the things at the beginning and the end of sessions the most. So if you go long stretches with a break, you end up working twice as hard trying to remember it all. Gotta take breaks.
Eric Phy
@SimplyPhy
Sep 27 2016 22:14
le sigh
meanwhile, i’ve got promises and service/web workers on the backburner
oh wells
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 22:15
Everything on my backburner could feed an army
Eric Phy
@SimplyPhy
Sep 27 2016 22:15
:num num num:
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 22:15
heh
yet the front burner is leftover cold :pizza:
Eric Phy
@SimplyPhy
Sep 27 2016 22:15
alrighty, gym time it is [ughh]..then feast [yay]
actually leftover pizza heated in an oven tends to be better than fresh imo xD
okay i’m leaving :P
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 22:16
i like it cold xD like my :heart:
Jonathan Herman
@lantech19446
Sep 27 2016 22:16
eric's brain is high phydelitiy he remembers everything
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 22:16
That was amazing xD
Eric Phy
@SimplyPhy
Sep 27 2016 22:23
xDD
okay really leaving
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 22:23
lies
you'll be back.
Mike
@dcpking
Sep 27 2016 23:16
And after that nobody said a word ..... are you all waiting for @Lilyheart 's prediction to come true? :)
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 23:28
truths
Lily Romano
@Lilyheart
Sep 27 2016 23:43
I almost resemble a student who isn't behind in studying! yay!