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    Eric Phy
    @SimplyPhy
    ha no time to study that, but thanks (insert emoji here)
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    I'm lazy tho so I just type : and then start to type something to see if I can find something that works.
    Eric Phy
    @SimplyPhy
    yeah ha that's what i was doing
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    like I wanted an arrow, so I typed :a
    Eric Phy
    @SimplyPhy
    octocat was the result
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    heh! nice
    Eric Phy
    @SimplyPhy
    :octocat:
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    we love :octocat: here
    Feel free to work through workshop in the future and post questions here and we'll get you an answer. You can also post an issue on the repo but the answer might be a bit more delayed.
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    @SimplyPhy incoming info!
    Eric Phy
    @SimplyPhy
    w00t
    preface: it's a pain in my ass, though everywhere online keeps claiming it's easy
    aww
    :'(
    haha xD
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    (we have a 30 second delay between what you hear)
    Eric Phy
    @SimplyPhy
    Answers that include "I don't know" are infinitely better than those involving pretense of knowledge
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    heh. We try to be as honest as possible here. Tell you what we know and send you along if we don’t :)
    Eric Phy
    @SimplyPhy
    brevity coupled with lack of insight is infinitely preferable to timestaking bloat
    That looks cool, thanks David
    Thanks all <3
    Mike
    @dcpking
    Ditto! Thanks David!!
    Robert Maylie
    @rmaylie9560
    Thank Dave. You rock!
    Like those cool stalagtite rocks
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    heh
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    hey everyone how goes it
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    sneezefest over here
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    That sucks
    I'm completely indecisive right now, I feel like doing something different with that pen but I have no idea what
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    when i get like that I backburner it and learn something new. That usually triggers some idea.
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    I'm thinking I'm going to try the JS lessons you posted yesterday and see if I like them better, I'm still stuck on that and it's getting annoying now. I always feel indecisive about this stuff, I don't know if it's just because I still feel really limited in my capabilities or what
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    If they are good, lemme know and I'll add them to the welcome slides
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    ok will do
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    @Lilyheart @davidjcastner @rmaylie9560 what are your opinions on plunker?
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    It’s kinda like codepen but it allows more than one person to edit the same code whereas with codepen you have to fork the code.
    This can be useful. However, I’ve heard of recruiters looking at codepen to find potential hires, not plunker. That’s why I tend to develop more on codepen.
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    ok so it may be beneficial to know both though because it sounds like there's pros and cons to both. That watch and code uses plunker, chrome, and github pretty much exclusively.
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    haven't gotten very far into it yet but so far the series seems pretty good.
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    I signed up to the course so I could see what you were talkin' about. That is a lot of video for free!
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    it really is and the first thing he does is create an array and show how to use it for something which is fantastic he's going to get my biggest road block out of the way first
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    so far this is really good
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    That's awesome! I'll add it to the list to add! fantastic :octocat:
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    I'm trying to delve deeper into it now while I'm doing these classes but I can't see why this keeps telling me that firstName is undefined, do you see what I'm doing wrong?
    http://codepen.io/lantech19446/pen/YWNVVK
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    When something with a = is evaluated, the right side is calculated then assigned to the left. sum = 2 + 2;
    Try switching your document.getElementById("first").value = firstName; around
    I'm not sure why you have the push in there.
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    I tried switching them before and still got that error that was why I flipped them the push was in there because it's the only way I could figure out to get it to pass the value into the array
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    firstName is actually a string at the moment, let me fork it and show you how you can test it.
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    ok thanks
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    switched that back around and defined firstName as an empty array still get reference error firstName undefined. Seeing the right way to do this should remove a big road block