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    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    also having issues with gitter at home the left third of my screen where the room list is isn't coming up under the night theme
    David Castner
    @davidjcastner
    i haven't done and mobile specific programming yet
    I have gotten much better at soldering after 13 hours of it, not sure if that will help you though
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    lol maybe eventually, not with this project lol
    David Castner
    @davidjcastner

    I think I should start sharing the insights I have gained so far:

    Pro Tip: to avoid your fingertips burning, wrap them in electrical tape so it only hurts a little when you need to push wires closer together

    David Castner
    @davidjcastner
    I'm done for tonight, going to write my history paper that's due tomorrow
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    sounds like fun, have a good night
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    @davidjcastner or buy tweezers xD or borrow my box 'o soldering crap.
    David Castner
    @davidjcastner
    my code is so naughty, I have a js class that constucts html emails and one of the methods is getHead() which returns the entire head tag
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    Oh my
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    lol
    Dave that would tempt me to make a .deepHead class or something just to mess with people
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    :thumbsup:
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    @lantech19446 that vid you posted over in the odin chatroom is one of my favorite videos of that man. I swear he is my Spirit Animal.
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    I completely agree, I also love finding some of his more insulting moments. That man is sheer brilliance at ever level lol
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    heh. I believe we are in the minority with that belief xD
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    possibly lol
    so you have taste... in a way that matters to programmers lol
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    oh man have I meet some programmers with some very... very... strong... feelings against that man. /shrug
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    yea I mean if you can't appreciate the flame wars he gets into or have porcelain skin you're not going to like him \
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    xD my skin is pretty porcelain but I can still appreciate the man.
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    idk the way people cry when he says he doesn't like their code instead of asking well what would you change and just trying to argue back I guess that's what i mean by porcelain skin.
    I really would love to meet him some day, maybe I'll have the money to hear him speak somewhere eventually
    David Castner
    @davidjcastner

    One of my managers is designing a website in wordpress and was trying to get the page to scroll to different positions. I had to explain to him how an anchor was could be a link, a spot on the page, or both. Here's the code I wrote to show him:

    <!DOCTYPE html>
    <html>
      <head></head>
      <body>
    
        <a id="top-of-page" href="#bottom-of-page">Go to bottom</a>
    
        <!-- spacer -->
        <div style="height:2048px;width:1px;"></div>
    
        <a id="bottom-of-page" href="#top-of-page">Go to top</a>
    
      </body>
    </html>

    Apparently this amazed him so much he took a picture of my code with his phone, and I was like "I can email it to you"

    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    that's hysterical.
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    ya know who really drives me nuts listening to @Lilyheart
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    Who dat?
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    Richard Stallman
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    Heh. I blame the hair
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    his voice and speech patterns just drive me nuts like the way he says Linux
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    Whenever I hear stallman's name I hear Gary Gnu new saying no Gnus is good Gnus.
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    lol
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    But Gary has a lot of hair.
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    I'll have to check it out
    the only thing stallman has ever said that I found in the least bit amusing is that he's saint ignucias the pope of the church of emacs
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    lol
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    so I get that github is the defacto standard for pretty much the entire industry at the moment and has been for several years but are there any pros to things like google code? I know source forge has become kind of suspect over the last 2-3yrs
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    google code is dead. But, there are alternatives. Bitbucket is a favored one.
    Bitbucket runs on a git backbone as well.
    git = linus. github = a website that hosts git repositories online. bitbucket = a website that hosts git repositories online.
    If you don't need to keep code online for all to see, you can purely use just git. I also have git repositories that are in dropbox folders so I get the benefits of versioning and branching as well as accessing the files on multiple machines without having the code public on github.
    There is... another software besides git that some people use... SVN. But... I rarely see anything positive about it xD But it's an option.
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    I was mostly just wondering why those projects never became more, usually google excels in its projects. The idea of using google drive or dropbox is kind of interesting since i have 100 gigs on drive. TOP wants you to get used to github but I don't see much of a point until I'm doing things worth a damn
    apparently drive doesn't work lol
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    getting versioning software right is HARD. git works and is actively updated (again, it's a linus project). Why GitHub wins over something like BitBucket? I don't know. Momentum probably. They have the people already (again, linus is there... altho is isn't a fan).
    Google uses their own version software but it's built to work in a really LARGE scale so I'm not sure if we'll ever see it as it probably wouldn't work for small scale (or be overkill at the least).
    My advice would be the same as TOP. Git is hard (at first). GitHub is a layer on top of that hard. Really the only way to learn is to use it over and over and over and over and over again.
    Even if you just use git on a local without all the github remote repo stuff.
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    so far I've found git commands to be pretty straight forward fortunately, using it effectively seems to be a whole new school though