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    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    I'm in learnprogramming just beware the opinion that disagrees with anyone in that sub, I also like programmerhumor
    gpsims
    @gpsims
    awesome, thanks for the resources, gotta run, see you guys next week!
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    See ya Gary
    Michael Perry
    @keepsabbathholy_twitter
    So is jQuery really outdated now or what?
    Everyone's telling me to not bother with it anymore
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    From what I understand... jQuery was created to help cover some holes in basic JavaScript. It helped with cross-browser implementation and in general made things easier. As vanilla JavaScript has evolved, it has fixed many of these issues making jQuery unnecessary in many ways. It's more about using the right tool for the job and now, many times, jQuery is no longer that tool and it's just unnecessary bloat because vanilla can now serve as many of the same functions (ha, joke).
    @davidjcastner may have an opinion on that if he's around.
    Michael Perry
    @keepsabbathholy_twitter
    So I'm guessing this is a point of contention for many people?
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    exactly. But it seems like to me that many programmers (of pretty much any flavor) like to find points of contention for fun or for ego or for whatever /shrug.
    My personal opinion is it's worth at least having some knowledge of it as you never know what kind of code you many need to support in the future. But I personally wouldn't use it on any new project unless necessary but that goes for any framework. Thorough evaluation of any framework.
    Michael Perry
    @keepsabbathholy_twitter
    Very true points
    Alright everyone, I'm out for now. See you all next time!
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    See ya @keepsabbathholy_twitter ! We are always here in chat so feel free to stop in whenever!
    Michael Perry
    @keepsabbathholy_twitter
    Oh cool! Well, I definitely will sometime. Bye!
    David Castner
    @davidjcastner
    @keepsabbathholy_twitter I agree with @Lilyheart, jQuery is becoming out of date as vanilla javascript has become more advanced. JQuery makes writing code a little faster because of the syntax, but it encourages bad practices and is much slower than vanilla javascript. This is now my opinion: I recommend learning how to accomplish tasks using vanilla javascript as it gives you a much better understanding of how the the code interacts with web page. It might be take longer to learn, but will allow you to have more control over your web page in the end.
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    @roiegat_twitter I saw you were RSVPd for the meetup Wednesday. With the snow and such are you still bringing the drone?
    Jhighl
    @Jhighl
    I bought a arduino and downloaded the software but the code wont download to the uno anyone know why
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    What arduino did you get?
    oops, you said uno. xD
    gimme a sec
    @Jhighl
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    @Jhighl Didja get it?
    Jhighl
    @Jhighl
    yeah kinda is there a safety or just unplug as i am now. am afraid i will break it.
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    As long as it's not transferring data, you can just unplug it.
    It would only be transferring just after you hit the arrow button in the IDE and you'd see text on the bottom of the screen. As long as all that is done, you are good to go.
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    If you are ever bored. This is entertaining for a minute. https://www.twitch.tv/seebotschat.
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    survey -> Don't forget to fill this out if you want your days avail and such taken into account for the 2017 meetup schedule.
    Eric Phy
    @SimplyPhy
    well it’s official. my survey is the best
    i just voted
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    I'm not sure what mine will be until later, my schedule is going to change today
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    Heh. How is everyone this evening?
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    I is good, howzabout you
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    Gettin'ready for the next semester
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    yea my schedule just got changed for my coworker to do the same
    Robert Wilber
    @robert194w
    Hi all. Evening Lily
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    Hey Robert how goes it
    Robert Wilber
    @robert194w
    good thanks. out here in thd bushes fighting dragons.
    working through code coursse. thanks again
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    Awesome jon. I'll check out all the surveys on Thursday. Hey Bob
    Robert Wilber
    @robert194w
    I am finding a lot of this isn't completely unfamiliar
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    They only think they're dragons, most of them are just on meth and breathing the fire they started in their apartment or cars on east oregon
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    Thats good. It all kinda just builds up.
    Robert Wilber
    @robert194w
    some of the lessons aren't dead clear, but you can kind of interpolate what is needed. a little tricky
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    Feel free to ask in here if anything isn't too clear. Different parts seem to trip up different people
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    we have gotta get some talkative people in here lol, even Dave doesn't come around any more
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    Spread the word xD
    Jonathan Herman
    @lantech19446
    I tried but most of the people I'm friends with who would want to do this sort of thing don't have a computer that's reliable
    Lily Romano
    @Lilyheart
    Once the I look to see if the schedule is going to change, I'll start pushing more.