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    Zenzi Ali
    @zeeatwork
    @Seaner71, NYCDA offers a lot of free intro courses. I'm curious, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to fight downtown traffic and parking for an entire camp.
    ccz
    @ccziriak
    Yeah, I hear ya @Seaner71. I started my own business instead - still in the launching phase.
    Sean Smyth
    @Seaner71
    I took the train - the campus is right by suburban station
    which isnt cheap but beats paying for parking daily
    @ccziriak cool. what will be the focus of you biz?
    Zenzi Ali
    @zeeatwork
    I can imagine! I'm glad to hear that they offer some help with job prep /placement.
    ccz
    @ccziriak
    Web design/dev mostly for small businesses https://buxmontweb.com/
    Sean Smyth
    @Seaner71
    it definitely is helpful. I worked in a different industry for 25 years so I need to learn all the buzzwords etc
    very nice @ccziriak
    ccz
    @ccziriak
    @Seaner71 Thanks
    Sean Smyth
    @Seaner71
    @ccziriak how did you learn your skills?
    Randy R.
    @NotTheDBA
    back
    @Seaner71 I'm doing the Penn sponsored program.
    ccz
    @ccziriak
    @Seaner71 Used a variety of ways - online searches/tutorials, school, FCC, projects. I had a side business for several years a while back, and have done websites since the early days of the web. For my own personal interests and volunteer for church. non-profits.
    Randy R.
    @NotTheDBA
    HI @zeeatwork
    Sean Smyth
    @Seaner71
    @NotTheDBA willl you be in the first class?
    Randy R.
    @NotTheDBA
    @Seaner71 No, I missed the cut-off, so I'm in the second one.
    Sean Smyth
    @Seaner71
    cool -i would recommend it for anyone who has the time and resources to do it. I tried a little FCC and Codeacademy on my own but it would have taken me years on my own
    Randy R.
    @NotTheDBA
    Yeah - that's kind of where I am with it. I have a lot of background, but I missed a lot of the front end and web technologies that companies want for full stack these days, which has been limiting the job junt options.
    I've played around with things on my own, but I need a focused approach.
    Sean Smyth
    @Seaner71
    I was what I would call a power Excel user prior to starting but I had some pretty big knowledge gaps. i.e . I had never used the command line
    Randy R.
    @NotTheDBA
    That's a big jump in a short period. Definitely worth it!
    Sean Smyth
    @Seaner71
    and yea the focused approach thing is very helpful
    @NotTheDBA good luck to you. it's a lot of work but it should open a lot of doors
    Randy R.
    @NotTheDBA
    Much appreciated, thanks!
    Zenzi Ali
    @zeeatwork
    Hi @NotTheDBA. Sorry, I haven't looked at the chat screen in a bit.
    Randy R.
    @NotTheDBA
    No worries @zeeatwork - we all get busy here. :-)
    Sean Smyth
    @Seaner71
    @NotTheDBA looks like @ Penn they will be teaching React and Node which from my early job search results seem to be a lot more popular these days over Rails
    Randy R.
    @NotTheDBA
    That's good to know. I've heard a lot of asks for Node and Angular and vanilla JavaScript in my searching.
    Sean Smyth
    @Seaner71
    Im gonna drop off . good talking to everyone
    Randy R.
    @NotTheDBA
    Have a good night @Seaner71 .
    Zenzi Ali
    @zeeatwork
    Bye everyone. I'll see you next time.
    Randy R.
    @NotTheDBA
    good night @zeeatwork .
    Randy R.
    @NotTheDBA
    OK - I'm closing down for the night. Have a good week all.
    Adeline Johnson
    @Addie27
    Hi all! I feel like I log on way too late haha! @Seaner71 I am attending the Penn bootcamp in the same cohort as @NotTheDBA . I am interested to hear how your job search goes because that is the biggest thing I am worried about (well that and actually learning the content!). I want to hear about the interviewing process and stuff - would it be alright if I checked in with you from time to time?
    G7470
    @G7470
    Hello all!
    Zenzi Ali
    @zeeatwork
    Good Evening, all!!
    G7470
    @G7470
    Sorry for being late - had to make sure there was food at the house. Lol
    Zenzi Ali
    @zeeatwork
    One of the bootcamp's advertising states that you don't have to pay for your education until you're employed. I'm curious about how that offer works.
    I'm concerned about the investment and employment, too, @Addie27 .
    G7470
    @G7470
    I'm not really sure. Haven't done a boot camp before. Maybe someone who has can enlighten us on it
    Zenzi Ali
    @zeeatwork
    Thanks. I thought I'd put that question out early, just in case anyone knows anything.
    G7470
    @G7470
    I'm curious too
    G7470
    @G7470
    Anybody working on any projects?
    ccz
    @ccziriak
    Hi all
    G7470
    @G7470
    Hi @ccziriak
    ccz
    @ccziriak
    hey @G7470
    G7470
    @G7470
    How's the business going?
    ccz
    @ccziriak
    It's going...slow to pick up steam. I'm working on finishing up a site to demo to my accountant this week
    @G7470 how are things going with you?