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    Vadim Peretokin
    @vadi2
    I just bought Shadow of Mordor yesterday too. Heard it's a great game, and it's native. Pretty much only ever bought native since humble bundles came out
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    That's just my downloaded ones atm!
    keneanung
    @keneanung
    But I don't have the time to play much lately, anyways
    Vadim Peretokin
    @vadi2
    Slack insisting on single ` instead of two `` like everyone else just annoys me
    That's my contribution for the day
    Vadim Peretokin
    @vadi2
    Did you know IRE is coming out with a new MUD
    It'll be interesting to see how Mudlet does there. IRE has very capable Javascript-powered clients now and Starmourn will be a brand new MUD
    Ahmed Charles
    @ahmedcharles
    Interesting.
    They probably have an advantage.
    Vadim Peretokin
    @vadi2
    I think I'll help out Mudlet users there by porting their UI to Mudlet again just like I did with Nexus
    That'll help get Mudlet get started there
    Ahmed Charles
    @ahmedcharles
    They can just write a client that reads out-of-band data and produce a custom graphical client.
    Vadim Peretokin
    @vadi2
    They do, thankfully it's all GMCP based
    Just have to decode the undocumented features they add to it
    Ahmed Charles
    @ahmedcharles
    yeah
    Vadim Peretokin
    @vadi2
    I've been thinking a lot about the project and I think there's a lot we can do from the external-facing stuff as well to make Mudlet nicer
    One thing I'd like to do is to have in-client tutorials on how to do stuff: https://github.com/Mudlet/newbie-tuts
    All of these things that games make it easier for a new player to get started - we could do it to get the player started in the world of MUDs
    There's still so many ideas I want to add to Mudlet! New website, those tutorials, a bunch of API functionality. It's fun
    Ahmed Charles
    @ahmedcharles
    I'm not sure what I think about starmourn specifically. Their last scifi mud failed to launch and Midkemia closed. I'm not sure if there's a market for a scifi mud or well, any mud that requires funding anyways.
    There will always be free muds
    Vadim Peretokin
    @vadi2
    Well it's their CEOs baby, I think the CEO was away for Midkemia
    Ahmed Charles
    @ahmedcharles
    But it's not really a brilliant market for text muds right now or probably ever again. :P
    Matt tried to do Earth Eternal and failed.
    Vadim Peretokin
    @vadi2
    That was yeah.
    Ahmed Charles
    @ahmedcharles
    I think he has a better chance with starmourn.
    As long as he doesn't write the room descriptions at 2 am while sleep deprived, like he did with Azdun :P
    Vadim Peretokin
    @vadi2
    Haha really
    Ahmed Charles
    @ahmedcharles
    I started playing Achaea 16 years ago. I can be nostalgic about that time I was nostalgic about being nostalgic :P
    I'm also realizing that I've played the game using windows telnet.exe, zmud, cmud (both of which I actually bought), mudlet, muccl, tintin++, linux telnet and 3 different mobile clients across windows mobile, windows phone and iOS.
    Oh, I forgot, I've used nexus too.
    Mudlet with svo is probably my favorite, because of the fact that I could easily extend svo with various actions.
    Vadim Peretokin
    @vadi2
    Nice. I've started out with the old Java client, then first Java Nexus, then the 2nd Java Nexus (current Javascript client is also Nexus)
    Then I moved to Ubuntu so I didn't have a client - toyed with Kildclient, GNOME MUD but they weren't very good, and I didn't want to run zmud in wine
    Oh, KMuddy
    That's where me and Heiko got together to make Mudlet.
    Svo is open-source these days btw, I stopped working on it and opensourced it: https://github.com/svof/svof
    @keneanung is now leading the torch on that project
    Ahmed Charles
    @ahmedcharles
    Cool
    The build system for svo seemed complicated the first time I looked at it.
    Vadim Peretokin
    @vadi2
    Yeah it requries you to do some acrobatics to setup
    Kinda sucks to have that barrier of entry
    keneanung
    @keneanung
    I was looking into dockerizing that, but didn't get very far testing
    Ahmed Charles
    @ahmedcharles
    I was hoping it would just let you copy/paste into mudlet or something
    Vadim Peretokin
    @vadi2
    There should be a way to make it simpler, because if svo has such a barrier than other people can't really make it nice either - if they want to develop their system outside of Mudlet
    It's something I'll look to improve for Svo so other projects can have an easier time. Not immediately on my roadmap though
    Dockerising might be a very good idea! Depends on how difficult Docker is to get running on Windows...
    keneanung
    @keneanung
    And documenting the undocumented gmcp stuff is what I tried on my gmcp additions page