These are chat archives for MylesIsCool/ViaVersion

15th
Aug 2016
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 04:33
Curse Security Advisory :(
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 09:32
@MylesIsCool you're only 16?
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 10:40
@Yive no lol, 19
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 10:40
ah fair enough
thought you were 16 from the tweet, but then I realised you don't learn english instantly after birth xD
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 10:42
The only year which is estimated is the English one cause I would say it was around 3
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 10:46
fair enough, tbh I skipped over a few languages that I kinda know, but I wouldn't say I know enough to say I actually know it
like I skipped over Lua, Java, JS & CSS
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 11:03
Yeah I have languages like that but they're after java :p
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 11:58
ah fair enough, for me I would of had to taken off dutch if I included CSS
Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 12:00
@Yive Can you speak Dutch? :O
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:01
not really, very early in the learning stages
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:02
I looked at my notifications and I say "Myles is 16?!?!?!? Oh... nevermind."
Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 12:02
Myles is 61
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:03
That would make me 41
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:03
so I'm 91?
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:03
@Yive are you 19?
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:03
yeah
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:03
;) lucky age
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:04
what's lucky about it? xD
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:04
You have a really nice name on github
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:04
I always thought 19 was an unlucky age
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:04
cause i'm same age
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:04
Because no one cares about it...
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:04

You have a really nice name on github

What do you mean by that? xD

Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:04
Yive is a nice name
short, simple
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:05
18 is a milestone age, and 20 is a milestone age... so 19 is just awkwardly there
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:05
yeah, the word generator for my alias was quite useful
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:05
is yive an actual word? :0
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:05
yep
it means "To Give" nobody has used it in 200 years iirc though
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:06
As you can see, I was never very good with aliases ;)
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:06

18 is a milestone age, and 20 is a milestone age... so 19 is just awkwardly there

Well depends on the country, sometimes you get benefits at 19

Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:06
That's true
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:07

As you can see, I was never very good with aliases ;)

My first alias had numbers & my first name in it xD

but then again that was 2006
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:08
A decade ago
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:08
mhmm, was my xbox live account on the 1st gen xbox 360
well, wasn't mine, my dad made it since I was only 9 years old at the time
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:09
"Love it, love it, love it! Without this I'd be a pig with a server stuck only on 1.9, you wee life saver <3 [Can I donate my future kids?]"
well that's now off the bucket list
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:09
lmao did someone review your plugin & put that?
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:10
yeah lol
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:10
lol
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:10
@Yive I'm curious, are you affiliated with SquidHQ or did they just ask for a website
Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 12:10

I mean it's better than

Good plugin ................................................................................................................................................................................

Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:11

@Yive I'm curious, are you affiliated with SquidHQ or did they just ask for a website

From what I can tell by the real members interactions with me & that I have access to the server of which hosts the website, yes I am

Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:11
Oh that reminded me of something... I used to be stalked by someone who proclaimed themselves as my "biggest fan"
He would spam me on Skype at early morning hours
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:12
@Yive Is one of the aims of SquidHQ to not say who the members are?
My biggest fan bought a mc account
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:12
And he would somehow find me on every MC server I went on...
That guy was crazy.. he told me he wished I was his "new father"
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:12
;)
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:12
And it took me month to get rid of him
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:12

@Yive Is one of the aims of SquidHQ to not say who the members are?

Pretty much, like you can easily find out who's apart of it, but we don't directly say we're apart of SquidHQ except for myself & Andrewkm

Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:13
I'd assume arkham is part of it
@Yive do you have a specific design process for your websites, they are really nice :)
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:14
^
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:15

I'd assume arkham is part of it

No duh, AGP = Arkham Gaming Productions iirc

@Yive do you have a specific design process for your websites, they are really nice :)

Nope, I just go by the flow

Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:15
Ohhh so that's what it stands for
Do you use any specific tools? Photoshop before hand?
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:17
Nope, I just do trial and error & if the colours work together & don't blind the eyes (like some of my sites, but fuck it, I ain't changing them), then I'll use it
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:17
Oh no... my Bukkit credentials aren't working
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:17
I used to use photoshop as a concept art thing, but that never worked out so now I just use it as concept art for programs
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:18
It annoys me on the site of SquidHQ that when you have it in mobile mode the icons aren't cendered
*centered
@Yive have you ever seen Macaw?
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:19

It annoys me on the site of SquidHQ that when you have it in mobile mode the icons aren't cendered

To be honest, I was going to make a littl easter egg for mobile where it said "Why are you even visiting this site on mobile? You've gotta use a computer to even use the laucher."

@Yive have you ever seen Macaw?

Never heard of it

Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:19
http://macaw.co/ - Used to cost money but it's quite neat for making mobile sites
(well responsive sites)
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:20
huh interesting, tbh web design is my worst area for web related stuff
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:20
I like the stance that SquidHQ has on not being a cracked launcher, though people will make a cracked version probably
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:21
You have no idea how much I want to rewrite the launcher in C++ with extra features obviously
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:21
"extra features", like what? :o
@Yive also do you use webstorm / or something else?
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:22

"extra features", like what? :o

SquidHQ/launcher#3

@Yive also do you use webstorm / or something else?

I use sublime text 3

Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:22
Did you buy it yet ;)?
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:22
pfft no lol
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:23
I'd buy it if it wasn't as expensive, but I don't use it that much
Are you still in education?
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:23
I dropped out 3 years ago
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:24
bootstrap studio is pretty cool if you've ever seen it (it's also free if you're in education)
And also you should look into JavaFX, you can essentially do html5 in java ;)
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:25
I hate java so that's not ideal for me :P
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:25
You'd just need to code the boilerplate and js interface
then you can do the rest in html, css and js
Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 12:25
It's a bummer that Bootstrap studio is limited to mac+windows though
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:26
@Matsv can you not wine it
it is just node.js
or w/e
Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 12:26
Most of the things look like windows 98 then
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:28
The thing that bugs me about JavaFX with web stuff is you can't have custom user agents until java 8 :(
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:28
people still use java 7?
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:28
sadly
I saw some guy using java 6 other day
(not with via luckily, just spigot in general)
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:29
I feel like they're the type of person to use internet explorer still
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:30
Well, using chrome is like a friend thing
"Hey I use chrome you should too"
using java 8 isn't
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:30
true
I use firefox :P
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:30
I used to use firefox nightly
then I ended up moving to chrome
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:31
Chrome = <3
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:31
I was the other way around, I used the dev builds of chrome & then moved to firefox developer's edition
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:32
A lot of modern software these days is just a web browser :o
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:33
A lot of modern applications are web applications
jumps off bridge
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:36
My eyes!
I have a friend who is still running Java 6 because he is afraid of updates
He won't update to Windows 10, he ignores his phone's security patches, and he won't update Java (yet he's a Java developer)
Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 12:37
http://i.mcstats.org/All+Servers/Java+Version.png Minecraft server java stats according to mcstats
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:38
I mean people use outdated java because when they install the machine
So the issue of java 6 doesn't happen really because by default you install 7 iirc
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:39

http://i.imgur.com/BI24AS1.gif

Can't even read the stats on that @Matsv

Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 12:39
And it's installed on many computers that always skip the annoying java update icon
@Yive Yeah blame mcstats right? ;)
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:40
apparently people are going to take over the development of mcstats
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:40
@Yive tfw you're talking about @SirFaizdat
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:40
Lol and @sgdc3
Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 12:41
@Yive Looks more like they'll create a new project instead of taking mcstats over Hidendra/mcstats.org#34
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:41
ah
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:41
But we're actually writing a replacement for it, because we found that fixing it would break backwards compatibility
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:41
can you not also have a compatibility layer?
;)
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:41
We considered that, still have to design it
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:42
adding compatibility is easy
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:42
Making big systems is always a tough task
you have to make big decisions with databases, frameworks ;)
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:42
tell me about it, I am doing a whole rewrite of one of my sites
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:42
Oh btw spring is really hot ;)
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 12:42
We are using Spring
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:44
Spring boot ;)?
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:46
it's quite annoying when you've got ideas of sites, but can't do them due to the fact of hating java xD
Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 12:46
You can always write it in another language? :)
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:47
well the site ideas require plugins on the server :P
Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 12:47
Skript
Lol
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:47
isn't skript like a retarded version of lua?
Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 12:47
Something like that
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:48
not every server uses skript though
Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 12:49
@Yive But why do you hate Java? :)
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:49
just never enjoyed it
for me it's one of those languages you'd learn a bit, maybe enjoy for 1 - 3 hours then don't work on it again & completely forget everything you learnt from it
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:50
I don't hate any language, every language usually has it's own purpose :)
Some languages are annoying cough skript
:) but if that's what people do to get into programming it's cool by me
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:58
it's rather weird how I sort of started with apparently the hardest language
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 12:59
Visual Basic? ;)
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 12:59
nah C#, I used visual basic for the design bit :P
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 13:00
I did C# after VB long time ago, and I did quite a bit, but honestly can't remember anything
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 13:00
yeah I can't remember anything either
that's why I have to relearn C++
mfw my keyboard auto switches layout which allows me to do £££ xD
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 13:01
I wrote a small worldedit alternative to http://c-raft.com/ a very long time ago
But I decided my code was so bad, I just deleted the repo from my github
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 13:02
oh lol
there's a reason why I don't do open source on my sites xD
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 13:02
When you fully know a OOP language you can really code in any language
(well any other OOP language)
Yive
@Yive
Aug 15 2016 13:03
I lost most of my OOP knowledge
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 13:45
Oops
Hehe...
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:24
Hellp
someone poked me? ;)
Hello @SirFaizdat
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:28
Hi
We were talking about the MCStats replacement a while ago, that's why I poked you
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:29
Fine ;)
We need to find an additional spring developer
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:29
How come?
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:29
?
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:30
It isn't hard to learn, I think Jan said s/he'd learn
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:30
yeah but at least the core should be made by an expert dev
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 14:30
1+1=3
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:31
Commodore 64?
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:31
remember that we'll receive an high request rate
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:31
On 9 out of 10 of those things, 5 + 5 = 11
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:31
we can learn spring to add stuff to the core
but the first piece of code needs to be done in the right way
not like: "if it compiles it's fine"
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:33
Where are we going to find an expert developer like you described?
One that never makes mistakes? Those seem pretty rare (they don't exist)
Mistakes will be made, the only thing we can do is design it well and prevent them - Spring handles a lot of that stuff for us, we just have to use it right
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:33
You misunderstood me
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:34
Sorry, my brain is tired today
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:34
I mean, the core needs to be done quickly but not randomly
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 14:34
tbh you should not care about optimising to start with, as long as you have a good structure you're fine
it's pretty hard to make in efficient things with spring
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:35
i don't want to make it efficient, i don't wabt to create a zombie due to the development speed
do you understand what i mean now?
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:36
You want it to be created slow?
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:36
no, atm the only expert eith spring is you
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:37
Ohh, I thought by "expert developer" you meant "professional"
Now I understand
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:37
nopr
sorry as i said my English skills sucks
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:37
No you described it fine, I just misinterpreted it
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:38
i'm sorry for that
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:45
Um
I am paranoid that my pen will shoot out the ink cartridge at me
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:46
lol
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:46
I'm paranoid about a lot of things because I looked at this picture and I feel like I am being stalked (do not look at that link if you are easily scared... or well... just don't look)
Mats
@Matsv
Aug 15 2016 14:47
Wow what happened to that face
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:47
I have no idea
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:47
wtf
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:47
I told you not to look
And you looked!
I guess leaving a link means someone will click it
Well now you know why I'm now moving all my pens to the other room and leaving all the doors open...
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:48
Creepy guy stalks me! (Not a joke!)
lol
clickbait
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:48
xD
Interesting fact: Things are creepy when our brains can't figure out if it's an immediate threat or not
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:49
NOOOO
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 14:49
Don't watch if scared lol
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:49
My mouse
Says Yes yes yes
But my brain says No no no
Gabriele C.
@sgdc3
Aug 15 2016 14:50
lol
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:50
I'll just send it to a friend via a bit.ly link to be mean
I wonder how people act in horror movies and then sleep that night
Myles
@MylesIsCool
Aug 15 2016 14:52
I got roped into watching Conjuring 2 in cinema a few weeks ago
Still can't get some of the scary faces from it out my head :'(
Faizaan
@faizaand
Aug 15 2016 14:53
scary
creepy
The first one is not creepy but the second one is
I don't understand two things about people
Why do people watch horror movies, and why do people ride roller coasters?
MrPowerGamerBR
@MrPowerGamerBR
Aug 15 2016 17:26
I'm retarded and I don't know how to compile PaperSpigot 1.8.8... Every time I try to use sh ./applyPatches.sh it throws an error
MrPowerGamerBR
@MrPowerGamerBR
Aug 15 2016 18:48
And Cygwin says "file not found" when trying to compile PaperSpigot 1.8.8 (even tho the file exists)