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Antão Almada
@aalmada
I keep forgetting the if I upgrade to the latest and greastest VS version, NETMF won't work. :(
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
you could team up with your country fellow man .... and combine your/share your talents
Antão Almada
@aalmada
Unfortunately he's 88 miles from me but it may be an interesting idea ;)
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
Maybe this, if not known already, might draw your attention https://jsimoesblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/26/netmf-native-development-with-vs-code/
Antão Almada
@aalmada
WOW! No, I didn't know that. Code has been wrongly advertised mainly for web development. I wonder how long we'll still have 3 different VS cores.
Mike Fair
@MikeFair
If anyone is listening what's the difference between Llilium and NetMF-interpreter.... From the descriptions it seems Llilium is the newer/better/future thing to use (I'm just getting started/checking it out; so the smoother path with the most future is preferred)
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
Llilum is AOT compiling vs netmf being an interpreter. Speed diff measured by frequency of port on/off switching appx 20x faster for AOT. I reckon there will be some left over when doing real app stuff. I could even do a .net 4.5 made simple blink an led example in uwp and deploy it to a simple mcu board. Must say I haven't looked at it for while (months) so I'm not familiar with the current state nor the future plans. You might get a better answer asking this on the llilum github space. Just create a new issue with questions you have ...
Mike Fair
@MikeFair
AOT?
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
Ahead of time
Mike Fair
@MikeFair
ahh
I just "discovered" the entire NETMF project today
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
So when starting to deploy it first took 7 mins to compile the source and than it actually deployed to the destination
Llilum and netmf are totally different in concept
Mike Fair
@MikeFair
I have been working with the Esspressif 8266 MCU; so I was going to peak too see how difficult doing a Hardware port is
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
That's funny I'm trying to do it the other way around
But than using ESP32
Mike Fair
@MikeFair
So with netmf being an interpreter, does that mean I could potentially upload some C# via Serial to the MCU and execute it?
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
USB
Mike Fair
@MikeFair
I like the looks of the ESP32; but like most folks haven't actually gotten one yet.
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
Sparkfun is a not so expensive one
Mike Fair
@MikeFair
USB, sure; I wasn't asking so much about "how" to transfer the C# to the MCU; just that I could send C# during RT (runtime) and execute it
Last I looked their ESP32 modules were sold out
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13907 is on backorder (same as pretty much everywhere else); do they have a different one?
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
For netmf, get the dev-env preps, use a nice board, attach usb, make demo project, set a break point, hit f5, and step thru your code being executed on the mcu all done using vs 2015
Mike Fair
@MikeFair
Yeah, that's a pretty sweet workflow
Ok, so the projects are both "active" and just different, with netmf focusing on interpreting, and Llilium focused on compiling?
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
I'm in germany so we have some more distributors in europe to buy it from
Correct ...
Not to be negative but netmf and llilum ...
Well, I see them as sleeping vulcanos
Lot of power, potential, but kind of sleeping whether they wake up ... time will tell ...
Mike Fair
@MikeFair
Well they aren't built on a full open source stack; for example the fact the crypto libraries are binary only, and in between the developer and loading new updates almost made me skip getting into it
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
Like GHI you can always fork the repo and continue from there
Mike Fair
@MikeFair
It's "on the list"; I haven't gotten netmf compiled, yet alone reworking it's core update functions ;)
ANd likely after the ESP32 port
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
Actually, GHI is actively working in the next one called TinyCLR
Mike Fair
@MikeFair
So if you're thinking of an ESP32 port for netmf then you've got at least me curious :)
TinyCLR to replace netmf?
I like the name :)
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
First one is closed source
Still, maybe GHI changes mind don't know
Mike Fair
@MikeFair
Ok, so I've cloned netmf, installed the crypto libs, I think I have the VS extensibility tools installed in VS2015 Community
IS there anything I can do to "test" if the environment works?
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
Strictly follow the instructions on the wiki
Przemek
@przemoga
Hi I am not able to build project from repo some files are missing like Microsoft.SPOT.Tasks.Internal.dll Could you give me some advices ? wiki and codeproject are not sufficient
Nirmal Guru
@Nirmal4G
Is the project Active?
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
Don't really know for sure, but it has been real quite around the subject. Maybe Steve can comment on that. As for alternatives you can go to https://nanoframework.net/ or http://www.ghielectronics.com/tinyclr/features or http://www.wildernesslabs.co/
xbary
@xbary
Welcome
Is there somewhere to get your bin ready for the ESP32 WROVER? WROVER has more RAM (4MB) than DiscoF429.
Peter Wessel
@piwi1263
Not for netmf, as far as I know. But over at https://github.com/nanoframework/nf-interpreter they have both a port for the 429 with the extra on board memory of whopping 8MB and there is a port for the ESP32 as well.
xbary
@xbary
Well, if I have a spare time after testing it, I'll test it... and that's why I mention WROVER ESP32 because it has this additional RAM.