NRules/NRules

Rules engine for .NET, based on the Rete matching algorithm, with internal DSL in C#.

Ramanarayan1986

@Ramanarayan1986

Please give me a solution to save rule in xml or database

Sergiy Nikolayev

@snikolayev

@gurdeepsira regarding a custom web gui for NRules. It's such a broad question that it's impossible to answer. I'll just leave it at - I don't have any plans to build such a UI.

Sergiy Nikolayev

@snikolayev

@Ramanarayan1986 you cannot save rules in XML with NRules. There are two DSLs for NRules - C# DSL (https://github.com/NRules/NRules/wiki/Fluent-Rules-DSL) and NRules language (https://github.com/NRules/NRules.Language). I would seriously recommend against storing rules in the database, and suggest you compile the rules and deploy them as separate assemblies. If you firmly decided to do it, mostly your options are 1) store C# in the DB and compile on the fly with Roslyn (again, I would seriously recommend against this). 2) use NRules.Language and store textual rules in the DB or 3) write your own specialized DSL, that you would compile into NRules.RuleModel using the RuleBuilder (https://github.com/NRules/NRules/wiki/Rule-Builder).
Just remember - by doing any of this, instead of using Visual Studio or VS Code for writing C# you are basically giving up an IDE with intellisense, type safety and compile-time checks, debugger, build infrastructure. Also, storing rules in the DB likely means bypassing any SDLC, source control, CI/CD practices, unless you build some heavy process around this. At which point I'm not really sure what you are gaining. IMO

Gurdeep Sira

@gurdeepsira

@snikolayev I have come back to this. I am doing a booking app for a friend and I can write some rules for him anyway, as long as some parameters are added (e.g. number of bookings). So I take it saving rules in JSON is not an option either? I think the seperate assembly approach is better and then inject that (in my case, a microservice will use it).

Sergiy Nikolayev

@snikolayev

@gurdeepsira correct, JSON is not an option either. You can easily parameterize the rules by modeling those parameters as facts, and just matching both the parameters and the facts from your domain model.

yashad singh

@yashad.singh_gitlab

Dependency resolver not provided. To use rule dependencies set a dependency resolver on the rules session.

I am new to NRules and trying to use services in my rules. But it is throwing error "Dependency resolver not provided. To use rule dependencies set a dependency resolver on the rules session.".

my service variable always set to "null".

yashad singh

@yashad.singh_gitlab

@snikolayev I am working with an API on dot net core. And dependencies have already been injected in serviceContainer in Startup.cs file. So i have no idea how the dependency injection works separately with NRules...

Sergiy Nikolayev

@snikolayev

@yashad.singh_gitlab if you want to use rule dependencies (which are resolved at rules run time), you need to implement and supply an IDependencyResolver (see https://github.com/NRules/NRules/wiki/Rule-Dependencies). Another approach is to inject dependencies into rules classes at rules instantiation time. In this case you need to implement IRuleActivator (see https://github.com/NRules/NRules/wiki/Fluent-Rules-Loading#Rule-Activation). When you implement one or both of these interfaces, you can simply just forward resolution requests to your existing service container.
Another NRules user I believe took a stab at implementing an integration project between NRules and .net core container: https://github.com/cloudb0x/NRules.Integration.AspNetCore

yashad singh

@yashad.singh_gitlab

@snikolayev Is it possible to consume scoped services in MyRule (: Rule)? Currently it only work with Singleton service ( services.AddSingleton<IServiceTest, ServiceTest>(); ).

When I tried scoped services ( services.AddScoped<IServiceTest, ServiceTest>(); ) it threw an error as shown in the image above.

Sergiy Nikolayev

@snikolayev

@yashad.singh_gitlab you cannot use scoped services with rule activation, because rules are instantiated once during the application lifetime. But you should be able to use them with the runtime rules dependencies, via IDependencyResolver. When implementing the resolver, forward the resolution requests to the scoped service provider, instead of the root service provider. This also means you would have to create a new session per scope, create a dependency resolver for that scope and set it on that session.

yashad singh

@yashad.singh_gitlab

Thanks @snikolayev ... It worked. Thanks a lot.

yashad singh

@yashad.singh_gitlab

@snikolayev How can I make this call awaitable in above code in the image? Is it possible?

Sergiy Nikolayev

@snikolayev

@yashad.singh_gitlab no, async actions are not supported

yashad singh

@yashad.singh_gitlab

@snikolayev I am creating a dynamic Rule as shown in above image. But I did not find a way to load that rule in RuleRespository.

Sergiy Nikolayev

@snikolayev

@yashad.singh_gitlab if you are creating rules dynamically, you don't need RuleRepository, as that's only used with the rules defined using C# DSL. When using RuleBuilder, you are getting back IRuleDefinitions, and you can feed them directly to RuleCompiler.Compile method.

ByteCode2408

@ByteCode2408

Hi! I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I would like to know if the rule engine will be a correct fit in a Domain Driven Design project. Use case: I have a Payment domain object and a set of business rules: if Payment.Amount is less than x, then process the payment using IExternalGateway1, if Amount between x and y, then try IExternalGateway2 if available, else retry only once with IExternalGateway1, if Amount > y, try only IExternalGateway3

Sergiy Nikolayev

@snikolayev

Hi @ByteCode2408 - I think many of the concepts and principles of DDD are fairly universal whether you are using a rules engine or not: ubiquitous language, bounded contexts, core domain and generic subdomains, etc. I also think you should fully invest into a rich domain model, if you are subscribing to DDD. Where the rules engine will add a new spin, IMO, is how you encode the logic that under DDD normally goes into services. Essentially, the way I'm thinking about the relationship between the domain model and rules is in terms of the type of logic they are encoding. A domain model of course encodes the structure of the domain in a form of entities and their relations. A domain model usually also encodes fairly static slowly changing logic, like invariants imposed by the domain. Rules on the other hand encode volatile logic - policies - that change frequently, or logic external to the core domain. In your case, you would model the Payment domain using rich entities. But then a service, say a PaymentGateway as an example, may actually spin up an NRules Session (from previously compiled payment rules), insert the Payment fact into that session (along with other items in the payment aggregate, using DDD terminology) and have those rules dispatch the payment to the external gateway.

ByteCode2408

@ByteCode2408

Cool, that's what I was thinking, thank you for clarification!

Jaliya Udagedara

@jaliyaudagedara

@snikolayev, we have started using NRules and it's good stuff. Have a question, can I please know how we can Yield a new fact for Forward Chaining when creating rules dynamically.

Benoit Provost

@namtar1447

Hello @jaliyaudagedara, from my very limited experience, when you define your action Expression, nothing prevents you from using ctx.InsertLinked() which should behave like Yield in terms of retraction.

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Benoit Provost

@namtar1447

I also happen to have a question, I'm working on a project that requires going through rules and at some point having several choices (2-30 but possibly one choice leads to more choices down the line). I would like to be able to let the engine start from the current state and "trying" multiple solutions. I'm trying to figure out a way a simple and hopefully efficient way to do this. Here's what I experimented with/considered so far:

1) Considered using LinkedFacts, and while that handles new facts retraction, updates to existing facts wouldn't be reverted. So make a log of updates and revert manually?
2) Deep-copy all facts, make choice, continue execution. Once run is over, retract all, insert all fact copies, make new choice, repeat.
3) Deep-copy all facts, halt current session, create new session for each choice, starting with the fact copies.

I have the impression I'm missing a clever way to use the framework to help me. Additionally, doing this in a way where I can leverage already calculated fact combinations would be great as there are combinations that would be repeated.

The reason I'm trying to use NRules for this is that new and updated facts tend to trigger a limited number of rules and fact changes. For reference the "scale" I'm working with is along the lines of ~50-200 facts and probably ~50-200 rules.

Thanks!

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Pravinskamane

@Pravinskamane

Hi, Is there a way to configure the Rules in database, and pull them to load the rules. Also how can we do some logging from the rule methods .

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Pravinskamane

@Pravinskamane

Hi, Thanks. Is there a way in which we can return any value from the Rule definition to the place of session.Fire()?

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Pravinskamane

@Pravinskamane

Is there a way to set ordering sequence on Rules. For example to execute rules in a particular sequence?

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Têng Ûi

@tingwei628

Hi @snikolayev , I wonder how to do rule dependency injection with Unity container.

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Pavel Moskalevich

@happanda

Hi there. Is there a way to write rules that react specifically to Fact creation vs Fact update? Lets say, Fact is a class with one bool variable. I'd like one Rule that will .Do something when such Fact is created, .Undo something when Fact is retracted. And a different rule to fire when this bool value changes only for already existing Facts. Is it possible?

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Pavel Moskalevich

@happanda

Thanks for the previous answer. Now I'm trying to figure out how to deal with ActionTrigger. Consider the following CODE
When I run it, I get the expected output:

Activated Baz
Reactivated Zab
Deactivated Zab

But if I remove Action with ActionTrigger.Reactivated, only the first line is printed. The engine doesn't react to retraction. Why is that happening?

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Maarten Louage

@mlouage

Hello, I'm a new to this powerful library! I have a question which I did not find the answer in the documentation: is it possible to inject a dependency into a rule? I have rules on my domain model like if Country is not in the list of allowed countries to travel to, set a warning. That list of allowed countries is managed through a service which calls an HTTP endpoint. How can I inject this service into the rule?

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Argiris Gerogiannis

@ageroh

Hi all,

Have anybody used NRules.Language before ?

Adrian

@adriangonzalez

@ageroh I haven't used it, but I am going to be trying it out this weekend :)

Charanpreet Singh

@charanpreetsinghda

Hi there - is there a way to skip following rules within a ruleset as soon as a rule in that ruleset failed?

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morisamon

@morisamon

Hey everyone, is there a way to add dependency and option to resolve by rule builder and not by class definition?
Best regards,
Thank you :)

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davideps

@davideps

I'm looking for a rules engine and have two questions: (1) How well does nrules scale in terms of number of rules and facts? (2) would implementing backward changing be difficult? (I assume yes since it has not been done yet, but maybe there is little demand?)

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davideps

@davideps

("chaining" not "changing")

wangadeketan

@wangadeketan

@snikolayev How to log a rule if the rule condition failed ?

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karthik sundar

@karthikn92-sundar

Hello everyone, I want to use groupby to get the count and with the count I've to add some other logics. Is this possible ?

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wangadeketan

@wangadeketan

@snikolayev what is the next release date of Nrules ?

Sergiy Nikolayev

@snikolayev

@wangadeketan definitely releasing new version this year. Hopefully much sooner than the EOY

wangadeketan

@wangadeketan

Great

christiansent

@christiansent

Hi,

Hi, I have NRules working in an application, where the rules are in C#. The design has changed requiring the rules be moved to a database. I added Rules.Language, and it is working. Is there a way to set the priority number from the text rule? Also, when I included Console.WriteLine as in the example, I got a runtime error. I added "using System" to the rule - did not help. Works fine without this.

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christiansent

@christiansent

Possible to expand the GitHub example to show how to handle Not?

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christiansent

@christiansent

Figured out the NOT: not Attribute_DOUBLE(sr => sr.NameIs("SHOPRATE"));

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