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Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
@SvenVandenbrande @doctordns personally, I don't think forking the project is the correct approach. OpenLiveWriter was created with the intention of being a community driven project, and I agree that this doesn't seem to have happened. What I think does need to happen is that we need to empower people (like yourselves) who are interested in helping/owning the project, and to let them run with it. That will mean handing over some control, but that is far better than letting the project dwindle.
I would love to hear @jongalloway and @shanselman and @onovotny thoughts on this from a .Net Foundation perspective.
Would there be any issues with adding more people into the OpenLiveWriter GitHub repo with the ability to commit code changes, and push out new versions?
Sven Van den brande
@SvenVandenbrande
@gep13 Forking is indeed not a good idea I think. I also think it would be better to use other technology. Now it's WinForms no? If you start with something. I would do it with a cross platform technology
And indeed it would be a good idea to empower people for this
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
@SvenVandenbrande there are definiltey discussions to be had in this area in terms of technology choice, etc. I would say though that a lot of people like using OpenLiveWriter as it is. Yes, it might not be using the most up to date technologies, but it works, and it is good at what it done. Making wholesale chanegs to the application and it's underlying technologies would need to be done carefully. I would rather see any existing bugs in the application corrected and pushed out with new versions. This is much easier to do, and to get people up to speed with how things are done, and again empowering them to do it, and once that community base is established, further changes/improvements can be discussed, as everyone will have a better idea about what is required.
Just my two cents
I don't have any active involvement in this project, I am just an interested 3rd party :-D
Oren Novotny
@onovotny
On a plane now, but AFAIK, it's really just a matter of time / maintainers and interest
I'm sure anyone interested in stepping up would be welcome
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
@onovotny do you know what the process for people stepping up is? Let's say @SvenVandenbrande and @doctordns were interested in doing that.
Oren Novotny
@onovotny
Let's connect over email and sort things out.
I don't monitor gitter, only noticed this because you tagged me
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
:+1:
Thomas Lee
@doctordns
not sure I have the technical chops to do much in the way of adding code. ;-)
Sven Van den brande
@SvenVandenbrande
@gep13 I think it's all old technology. And also some difficult stuff I think.... No?
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
@SvenVandenbrande in all honesty, I am not sure, I am not familiar with the code base. The point that I was trying to make was that I would be hesitant to jump to another technology, given that there is an existing, working, application that has a number of bugs and feature requests associated with it. There is nothing to say that anything will be any easier on a different technology stack.
Sven Van den brande
@SvenVandenbrande
@gep13 That's also true. But It would improve the user base also. :)
Sven Van den brande
@SvenVandenbrande
@onovotny I followed you on twitter. So we can exchange some contact info .... :)
Sven Van den brande
@SvenVandenbrande
And it's dead again I think. Anybody who wants to talk with me about a new project? cc: @gep13 @doctordns @onovotny
Prince Singh
@CFIAcademy
hello everyone, I am new here, and the 100th person in this room :-)
Oren Novotny
@onovotny
my email is first at last dot org.
Gareth Bradley
@garfbradaz
Hello :) Is anyone looking at the OpenLiveWriter.github.io issues? https://github.com/OpenLiveWriter/OpenLiveWriter.Github.io
Pradeep Kandel
@PradeepKandel
Hi
Can someone please help me on how to left intend in the title post bar in Open live writer?
Paperino
@aovestdipaperino
Hello, is this project still alive?
I am trying to build the installer but it's missing from the nuget package (?)
Paperino
@aovestdipaperino
(apparently you have to add squirrel's path to the PATH environment variable, which is not documented anywhere...)
Martin Brown
@martingbrown
I've been trying this as well. And I didn't have to do that. The post build project runs a batch script that has all the paths in it. It puts the installer into the releases folder. I have changed the build to work with Visual Studio 2017 though. I also had to change the version.txt file to have a higher version number otherwise squirrel fails with a file not found exception.
nikhilcartoon
@nikhilcartoon
Hello respected community,
Jim Galasyn
@JimGalasyn
Hey all, just letting you know that Open Live Writer is broken, because Google has deprecated the Picasa API. There's dismay among the Blogger community -- any chance we can get this updating with the new Google Photos Library API?
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
As @JimGalasyn mentions, here is the GitHub issue that people can follow if interested: OpenLiveWriter/OpenLiveWriter#787
Jim Galasyn
@JimGalasyn
@gep13 The discussion has moved to here: OpenLiveWriter/OpenLiveWriter#786
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Yip, spotted that other issue as well. There is also some discussion about it on Twitter as well.
Jim Galasyn
@JimGalasyn
@gep13 I have a PR up that fixes this temporarily: OpenLiveWriter/OpenLiveWriter#789
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
@JimGalasyn that is great news!
I have noticed something else that won't work during the publish, and I am trying to get the build to run on my machine, but I am running into this error:
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Did you run into something similar?
If so, how did you get around it?
Jim Galasyn
@JimGalasyn
@gep13 , interesting, I didn't see that because I built and ran from inside VS2019. I'll check it out...
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
@JimGalasyn that would be great, thank you! The creation of the installer package, and the Chocolatey package is done outside of Visual Studio, I think, and I would like to test the change that I make to ensure that it works as expected
Jim Galasyn
@JimGalasyn
@gep13 , hmm, I have MSBuild installed, but this puppy wants the VS2015 version of the build tools, so I'm a bit stuck.
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
Can you confirm you have the latest source code downloaded?
Does it correctly find/use the VSSetup PowerShell cmdlet ?
Jim Galasyn
@JimGalasyn
It tells me "In order to run this tool you need either Visual Studio 2015 or Microsoft Build Tools 2015 tools installed" and sends me to a defunct link -- why they no use redirect? :D VS generally does side-by-side installations well, but still I'd rather not install VS2015 stuff with my VS2019 bits.
Gary Ewan Park
@gep13
@JimGalasyn hmmm, sounds like you are getting further through the build process than I am. Hopefully @jongalloway might be able to shed some light on this.
Ludwig Keck
@LudwigKeck
Hello! I am new in this section so please excuse my stupid questions. Where can I find the basic objectives/features for Live Writer? I have used LW since its inception at Microsoft and much has changed since it was orphaned. The need to support mobile devices has made wysiwyg next to impossible. WordPress has gone off the deep end with "blocks" and the style trends have made sites "sights to behold". It seems that LW needs to support more than it currently does. What is being planned? Is there someone who supports the users and keeps the public up-to-date?
Martin Brown
@martingbrown
@gep13 Just saw your message about the Get-VS
@gep13 just saw your message about Get-VSSetupInstance. That should be installed by the previous line in the script Install-Module VSSetup -Scope CurrentUser. It comes from hereblogs.msdn.microsoft.com/heaths/2017/01/25/visual-studio-setup-powershell-module