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    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    Oh is it? And Leds don't generate a lot of heat right?
    Donavin Northrup
    @dnorthrupva
    Not really, especially in the FANs.
    It's people who install LEDs -not- meant for PCs that cause isuses.
    But LED-Fans have been around for decades. $10-$20 depending on size.
    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    That sounds like a lot of fans in a pc lol
    Donavin Northrup
    @dnorthrupva
    You'll typically have 4-5 fans in your PC. Depending on your case.
    I have 2 up top, one massive one in front, 1 on side, 1 in back.
    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    I'm going to need a giant case
    Donavin Northrup
    @dnorthrupva
    Well the case dictates the amount of fans.
    Max amount of fans*
    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    You're so smart. Let's be friends forever. Thank you seriously for explaining this to me.
    I'll brb. My knee is acting up. My whole leg is numb.
    Donavin Northrup
    @dnorthrupva
    No worries, if I don't respond feel free to @ me - I turned off notifications for Gitter.
    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    @/all Intel vs. AMD. Intel is better for gaming isn't it? Sorry to pull you away from what you're doing.
    Rex Schrader
    @SaintPeter
    I don't know how much better it is, but in general I've moved away from AMD not because of the CPU itself, but because of the piss poor drivers for their chipsets.
    They feel like they're made out of tinkertoys
    Or, at least, that's how I felt when I finally made the switch to Intel
    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    Ah. I thought intels were better. I thought GPUs and graphics cards were the same.
    Robert Richey
    @0x0936
    you can game on either, but generally speaking, intel chips are more efficient than amd - for example (and this is just a rough example), a 3-4 core amd might compare to a 2 core intel
    Rex Schrader
    @SaintPeter
    In terms of raw performance? Who knows. I just want to know that my drivers are going to work and be stable.
    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    So it's an either or with a gpu or gc?
    Robert Richey
    @0x0936
    this might help Intel vs AMD
    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    Ty hugs and kisses I will look now.
    Donavin Northrup
    @dnorthrupva
    @Shifthawke I didn't see any of this. Stick to Intel. AMD is roughly 3-5% behind in performance, which isn't a lot - But their drivers are awful. Stick to nVidia and Intel. No ATI/AMD.
    AMD has 'more cores' (They have 12-core processors relatively cheap) but those 12-core processors are equivalent to a Quad-core hyperthreaded i7, but still lag behind.
    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    My laptop actually runs both nvidia GE force 745m and intel I think. IT uses the intel until It needs he nvidia. I think I will stick with intel and the Nvidia solely for my graphics card.
    Hey I have an i7
    Donavin Northrup
    @dnorthrupva
    Yea, i5 typically means '4 cores' (Dual-core hypthertreaded) and i7 typically means '8 cores' (Quad-core hyperthreaded). Some exceptions, but i7 is generally what laptops have due to losing a lot of power in the conversion.
    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    I have a q. Can I install a wireless card into my Tower so I don't have to have a wired connection?
    Donavin Northrup
    @dnorthrupva
    @Shifthawke Yea, PCI and PCI-E adapters are used for sound cards, wireless cards - Hundreds of things.
    Some mobos actually come with them built in.
    Or you can just buy a USB Wireless Dongle. Though since you’ll be full-time wireless, I recommend a card or mobo that supports it.
    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    So what is a list of required and optional(making life better) pieces? @dnorthrupva
    well pieces as in parts
    Donavin Northrup
    @dnorthrupva

    @Shifthawke I don't quite understand the question.
    But if I am to build a PC I want a few specific things. (I'll list Quality of Life, and not required pieces with an asterisk)
    USB3.0 In front (Really only 1)
    USB3.0 In back (Typically two. This isn't hard to get.
    GPU with at least 3GB RAM (3GB is a low amount for now-a-day video cards) and at least 3 display ports.
    CPU with integrated Graphics (All new CPUs** have these)
    Mobo with at least 2 PCI-e 2.0 slots (This 'future proofs' your computer by allowing an additional video card later on)
    [I don't consider this required if you get a good video card, you'll be set for 3-4 years easy.)
    PCI-e Wireless Card (If you use wireless. I don't in my desktops, but if you must, a dedicated card will drain less power from your CPU, use it's own heat and handle better)

    Modular PSU (This is what we talked about before)
    At least 6 TOTAL USB ports on the back. (If you're going to use a HUB, 2 is fine)
    Mobo with Bluetooth* (Not required, at all. Most have it anyway though)
    Decent onboard sound card. More do (6 'colored' ports, and a Digital Optical Port. I'm a bit of an audiophile, so if you need extra info, let me know.)

    A CPU Cooler (You do NOT need hydro-cooling, at all.) I 100% recommend http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1444766035&sr=1-1&keywords=CPU+Cooler it's extremely cheap, and with a push-pull system on it, it has insanely good air flow, and helps keep your HDD/SSD cooler as well [A lot of newer cases that use ATX boards have the PSU on bottom, and HDD Bay up top)

    TL;DR I'm probably forgetting some details but yea.

    That's my 'basic essentials'.
    I forgot gitter makes * bold
    Soooo
    Errr italic*
    Rex Schrader
    @SaintPeter
    @dnorthrupva If you do a space after the * it makes it a bullet:
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    Donavin Northrup
    @dnorthrupva
    @SaintPeter Damn, I should use that more. Let me edit!
    Egads, I can't edit.
    Rex Schrader
    @SaintPeter
    LOL @ "Egads"
    Donavin Northrup
    @dnorthrupva
    Now I know. knowledge, power, etc etc.
    Robert Richey
    @0x0936
    we have up to 5 minutes to edit before it becomes immortalized forever within gitter :)
    Donavin Northrup
    @dnorthrupva
    @0x0936 Ahh thanks, I always wondered what the decider was. I thought maybe it was once it was 'read by' someone. but that seemed weird.
    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    Sorry that I didn't tank you sooner. @dnorthrupva I've been off an on for days. I was going to write these things down but well... My excel won't open for some reason.... @dnorthrupva That seems like a lot of usbs in the back.
    Chris
    @Shifthawke
    Just realized I put tank instead of thank.
    @dnorthrupva This specs are for a gaming pc right?
    Or regular?