ongmin on src
Create CNAME (compare)
ongmin on master
Create CNAME (compare)
For reference, the Meetup event description was modified anonymously to this.
NodeSchool for beginners is still being held at Port Education as planned by them but due to an overly direct link with the commercial nature of their business, and in the spirit of neutrality, SingaporeJS is refraining being an official host of this particular NodeSchool event.
Such initiatives are always highly encouraged of course and are beneficial to the community. Thank you to everyone who volunteered and are going out to make this happen.
NodeSchool is a free public community event, based on open source exercises (also known as workshoppers) that teach web software skills.
Do them on your own at: https://nodeschool.io or at a workshop nearby, such as this one.
[Disclaimer: I write the following in point form for succinctness and speed since its 2am, not meant to sound curt. If it appears that way, I apologise.]
I can explain the change in the event description better (I did it late last night before going to bed). I saw the event page very shortly before the event (sorry I haven’t been on gitter actively and will be so more in the future) and felt the whole thing was too much an advertisement and a utilisation of the group as an advertising mailing list (which I understand you’re also explicitly against) rather than a normal nodeschool for the following reasons:
"some folks who helped out want to do more NodeSchool events and think there's even demand for additional coding classes so they set up a coding school that is able to host the free NodeSchool sessions on weekends” sounds misleading. It is a profit driven endeavour from the beginning as a general coding school.
I briefly scanned through the group list of 4500+ accounts and found no other organisation accounts in the list, even for those that regularly host and sponsor us at great expense. For those that had company names, they were linked to a person whether in name or photo. While doing that, I removed two other apparent non-user spam accounts. (Just to add, I just decided to send a message to confirm one that I previously felt dubious about but didn’t delete). Therefore it is out of the ordinary that Port Education was allowed to post several messages featuring their Facebook, website, contact details, etc at liberty.
The description was written like a launch introduction for the school, and with several outlinks to their page and Facebook, however there was no mention of SingaporeJS to be found on their page or Facebook. Therefore the event was more of a Port Education hosted NodeSchool rather than one SingaporeJS was hosting.
Other companies or events have wanted to promote their events and we usually do that in the form of announcements at meet ups, courtesy message blasts, etc but in recent history if IIRC, we have not hosted a meetup under the group on their behalf.
NodeSchools are beneficial to the community, you as an organiser are involved and members have already signed up and so as a courtesy, the event was kept listed but with a modified description to clarify that this is a Port Education event.
Very rarely have non-coorganisers been listed as a cohost for an event, I so far could only find 1 or so instance when this happened.
The description was written to sound like they are now the local chapter for NodeSchool with “and now locally supported and hosted by a brand new coding school called Port Education”. NodeSchool is an open source effort and can be hosted by anyone.
Given that you are associated with the school, I hope you can see it from the point of view of outsiders that it reads like SingaporeJS is unofficially endorsing learning with this school, which is not the truth (whether ever or yet) or even how this is approached.
We have been careful with our associations when it comes to commercial interest, and amongst them rejected other coding school type organisations. So this overly close tie up, particularly with an unestablished one came across too sudden and presents some risks to how we’ve tried to stay pretty neutral while balancing the need to have venue sponsors.
This is a coding education company and to host nodeschools feed directly into their own commercial interest. It comes across as strange then that SingaporeJS volunteers or the group should be supporting their business model for free that closely.
I believe in the end we all just want to do what is best for the community, and in the future such events or cooperations can be arranged more carefully/clearly.
And similarly on my end the actions that will be taken (such that I did with changing the description), which I kept Tim up to date with.
The cancellation was made by mistake and quickly reinstated by meetup after I contacted them.
By the way, some notes/suggestions/follow up points/actions:
We need to set up the event calendar for the year or half. I’ll start to look into the dates.
Venue wise, so far we have Facebook (one off) and SP Digital willing to host us. I’ll try to ask MS this coming week.
Looking to move Talk.JS into first/second week of the month to avoid clashes with other similar meetups (Sorry Talk.CSS).
Have spoken with Mike about more new blood and volunteers.
Check with similar meetups to see if we should cohost (?).
Write these organisational status on a centralised page on a repo (?).