ThoughtWorksInc/Binding.scala

General questions should be asked on StackOverflow, not here. This room focuses on development of Binding.scala.

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

(Scalaz isn't so small in JS)

The entire Scalaz is big. Fortunately a typical web application with Binding.scala only uses a very small part of Scalaz. You can open your xxxx-fastopt.js to check it. DCE in Scala.js is very useful.

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

DCE in Scala.js is very useful

I agree, DSE is cool. But on some project I had 2640/2400 kb result of fullOptJS with/without Scalaz.

I suppose that the influence of Scalaz in Binding.scala can be not so much.
(my test project have not used Binding.scala)

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

@Atry Unfortunately I found a case where application which uses Binding.scala should depend on Scalaz. Please, see example from FAQ:

@dom def renderList(data: List[Binding[String]]) = <ol>{
  import scalaz.std.list._ // Type classes for List
  for (b <- data) yield {
    <li>{b.bind}</li>
  }
}</ol>

Can Dsl.scala remove this dependency (or change to Cats)?

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

Of course, because Dsl.scala does not support for-comprehension

Dsl.scala itself can be considered as an alternative to for-comprehension

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

:smile: O! I understand.

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

@Atry If you're interested, I have repeated the js-framework-benchmark with different versions of Binding.scala.
Here are results for: Chrome 32-bit and for: Chrome 64-bit (sorry, 3 runs only).

Conclusions and questions:

your conclusions about Scala 2.12 was confirmed, memory usage is increased by 22-23%:

glmars-v2.12-memory.png

but the absolute values are lower than in your results:

atry-v2.12-memory.png

I especially pleases by memory consumption on a 32-bit version of Chrome:

one question only: do you have any guesses why the clear rows time increased in Binding.scala v11.0.1?

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

v11 fixed a bug in v10 when removing a node. The fix to ThoughtWorksInc/Binding.scala#56 performs some internal cache invalidation.

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

Thank you, I also thought about this task :smile:

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

There could be an optimization in Scala.js scala-js/scala-js#2675, which should improve both code size and computational performance.

The relevant code is here: https://github.com/scala-js/scala-js/blob/df91ee0a33a2276c7a0538fd9df6ae313d96f3c5/linker/shared/src/main/scala/org/scalajs/linker/backend/emitter/FunctionEmitter.scala#L2600

The IIFE can be replaced to a normal code block, considering let and const in ECMAScript 2015 code blocks has the same lifecycle as var in IIFEs.

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

It will be great!

Thanks for the explanation.

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

You can create a PR to Scala.js if you're interested to optimize the memory usage in Scala 2.12

When compling a closure to JavaScript

Scala.js 2.11 create classes
Scala.js 2.12 create nested closures in IIFEs, which consums more memory than classes
Ideally, it should create plain closures in code blocks (for ECMAScript 2015 target)

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

I understand an idea, but I'm not sure I am able to do this (because I don't know Scala.js insides very well) :worried:

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

Never mind

Moritz Bust

@Busti

I recently had a chat with the folks over at scala/contributors and became aware of the fact that xml mode will be faded out with scala 3.
What will happen with binding.scala when that happens?

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

@Busti Where is the link of the chat

Moritz Bust

@Busti

@Atry Seems like the discussion is still going on at https://gitter.im/scala/contributors

Moritz Bust

@Busti

Does binding.scala use a compiler plugin to parse the contend of @dom methods differently?

Or does it rely on xml literals?

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

No. Instead, Binding.scala hacks the AST generated by the Scala parser.

Moritz Bust

@Busti

Does that mean that an attr without a value like <foo bar></foo> is possible?

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

Are you talking about Scala 3 or the current version of Binding.scala?

Moritz Bust

@Busti

The current version of binding.scala . Since scala xml literals are not sgml literals, the above is not valid xml.

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

I don't think Scala 2 parser accepts <foo bar></foo>

Moritz Bust

@Busti

I recently tried it on https://astexplorer.net/ and it failed without generating ast for the "malformed" literal.

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

🤷

Moritz Bust

@Busti

Thanks a lot for your answers :)

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

@/all Hello, Binding.scala users and contributors,

There is a discussion about the feature of XML literals in Scala 3, in which you guys may be interested.

https://contributors.scala-lang.org/t/proposal-to-remove-xml-literals-from-the-language/2146/

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

@/all You may also want to have a look at the proposal of name-based XML literal at https://contributors.scala-lang.org/t/pre-sip-name-based-xml-literals/2175

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

Hi @Atry, could you publish new release with ThoughtWorksInc/Binding.scala#90 and ThoughtWorksInc/Binding.scala#104 included?

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

Sure

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

Thanks ;)

杨博 (Yang Bo)

@Atry

@glmars It seems that CI is broken due to absence of Oracle JDK

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

Yeah I saw. Looks like your latest commit have fixed this! :+1:

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

You have done a big code cleaning yesterday! :thumbsup: :star2: :smile:

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

Binding.scala 11.2.0 already in Maven Central! :tada:

Wojtek Pituła

@Krever

Hey, sorry for asking here, but my question probably doesn't fit stack overflow either. Is there any up-to-date example/starter for binding.scala with scalajs-bundler/webpack? Or should I just try to assemble it from scratch?

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

Unfortunately, I don't know such examples, but this should be easy! There is no something special with scalajs-bundler and Binding.scala. Binding.scala is regular Scala.js library.

Wojtek Pituła

@Krever

I see now, I got one working byt adjusting slinky starter. It was easy, but having something out of the box would be nice from increasing adoption perspective. Nevertheless I find Binding.scala an extremely nice project :)

Btw should I consider some state manager like diode/redux or this is not needed with Binding.scala ?

Leonid Turnaev

@glmars

Binding.scala works well without it

Pascal Mengelt

@pme123

@Krever I wrote once a blog about Binding.scala with Redux - see https://pme123.github.io/scala-adapters/development/binding-scala-redux/

Wojtek Pituła

@Krever

@pme123 thanks, will checki it out

Wojtek Pituła

@Krever

There is no explicit map or flatMap for Bindings, but one can use scalaz for that, right?

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