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    Yoav Weiss
    @yoavweiss
    adrianba: I sent you an invite, maybe you should accept it?
    cause I still don't see you in the members list
    Ade Bateman
    @adrianba
    ah, got it in mail, surprisingly didn't show up on the web site :)
    working now - thanks!
    Yoav Weiss
    @yoavweiss
    cool!
    Renoir Boulanger
    @renoirb
    Hi folks,

    I had a mental note to ask you if you were maintaining former Specifiction niw WICG Discourse instance and if you wanted to adjust the color scheme.

    You can use the one i made upwith WebPlatform color scheme fork. Take a look at this issue notes below.

    webplatform/ops#152

    Yoav Weiss
    @yoavweiss
    @renoirb: Thanks, will take a look
    Ade Bateman
    @adrianba
    Does somebody need to do something manual to get the changes from https://github.com/wicg/wicg.io to https://wicg.io/ ?
    Yoav Weiss
    @yoavweiss
    @adrianba: Yeah, I need to pull that on the server
    Yoav Weiss
    @yoavweiss
    @adrianba: ugh. updated it, but the old version is cache in SW and won't update...
    Ade Bateman
    @adrianba
    we don't have SW yet so looks great to me ;o)
    thanks
    Yoav Weiss
    @yoavweiss
    :D
    Michael[tm] Smith
    @sideshowbarker
    I hope the WICG isn’t going to become another place where people fork copies of other people’s specs.
    Peter Rushforth
    @prushforth
    Forgive my ignorance - nobody has yet sent me a pull request- but isn't a fork a pre-requisite to creating a pull request? And aren't pull requests a virtue in this context?
    Michiel Bijl
    @MichielBijl
    THat's what I thought?
    Yoav Weiss
    @yoavweiss
    @sideshowbarker - I won't go into the general debate, but in this particular case, it's not a "fork copy of other people's spec" whatwg/dom@253a21b
    It's republishing an unofficial draft in order to get feedback from people who cannot participate in repos without a CLA
    Michiel Bijl
    @MichielBijl
    -.-
    Michael[tm] Smith
    @sideshowbarker
    @yoavweiss I don’t actually buy the claim that they can’t participate without a CLA, and anyway I believe that’s not actually the reason they want to take the work elsewhere
    I wish I could take the claims at face value but unfortunately I have reason to believe they shouldn’t be taken at face value
    but I don’t want to generate further churn about it
    people are gonna do what they’re gonna do
    I think it was a mistake for me to weigh in on the discussion around this at all
    so I will try to avoid inserting myself into it further
    but overall I think there is already very strong momentum in the WICG with a bunch of great new work coming in that is in fact clearly original and not divisive
    and I would really hope to not see the ongoing forking drama spread into the WICG and poison the other good work that well all are in agreement about in princple
    Michiel Bijl
    @MichielBijl
    I had hoped for more enthusiasm for the TPAC thing.
    Only two people have replied to Jonathan's thread (including me).
    Ade Bateman
    @adrianba
    We're happy to have MSFT people discuss stuff at TPAC
    I'm a little worried about encouraging people to travel to Portugal for a 2 hour meeting
    So for us it will be based on who is there
    But we'll likely have a good set of people
    Chris Wilson
    @cwilso
    Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'll BE there, and happy to meet; just not sure how productive "WICG" is to meet as a group.
    incubators unite?
    Ade Bateman
    @adrianba
    That would be concerning.... ;o)
    Chris Wilson
    @cwilso
    Incubators untie?
    about the idea for doing a Hardware Security API of some kind
    please consider posting a follow-up there if you also want to give them some encouragement to try taking the idea to the WICG
    (instead of them creating a completely new separate WG for it)
    I confess I don’t really understand at all what kind of API they are imagining and how it would be different from the FIDO-related stuff
    but WICG would be a good place to get the ideas discussed enough for somebody to hopefully take a shot are writing up an actual spec
    or really I don’t at this point even understand what new problem it is that they are aiming to solve
    it’s not clear to me that they themselves know
    Michael[tm] Smith
    @sideshowbarker
    @yoavweiss @marcoscaceres @cwilso
    Marcos Cáceres
    @marcoscaceres
    @sideshowbarker, that seems outside the WICG TBH
    Michael[tm] Smith
    @sideshowbarker
    @marcoscaceres well I think by creating a whole new CG for it they’ve ensured that the odds of it actually resulting in anything useful are marginal