So let's get in some people here! 😁
Hi guys, I wonder if you disable the Validation Errors/Results dialog in your production apps. Thinking about removing it completely, because it is too technical and confusing for end-users in the current form, at least in WinForms: https://www.devexpress.com/Support/Center/Question/Details/T824894/security-incorrect-validation-and-display-text-for-built-in-type-navigation-object-and - had other issues with it as well.
What do you think?
What do you think?
btw, about XAF chat - recently had a request asking me to start twitching weekly:-)
That's not a problem - the information will still be there, but just in another form, like in the Web UI: a simple list of broken rules with just user-friendly messages (no list view and no complicated detail form behind). The "Highlight Problems" can be true by default. Something like this:
i.e. show just plain text, icon and a checkbox for validation warnings only.
BTW, how do you present objects in validation messages? Do you use our fancy format: 'default property value' (object type caption, object key value). I am especially interested in the key value and default property part. If possible, reply with screenshots. Thanks.
BTW, how do you present objects in validation messages? Do you use our fancy format: 'default property value' (object type caption, object key value). I am especially interested in the key value and default property part. If possible, reply with screenshots. Thanks.
But to come back to the dialog. The target and context columns are way too complex for end users. I'd would rather improve the template and output a clean message. So a simple dialog with a single message column could do the trick until the in-line error icons.
We have implemented an immediate validation with inline error/warning icons and color around the field values. The dialog is still useful for complex objects. If you doubleclick on the validation message in the dialog, we jump straigth to the tab and field where the error occures.
But I think it would be nice to turn off the dialog by default and implement something more user intuitive.
Most of the times fields are just required. We show blue borders on those fields (to indicate that they are required). After the user try's to save or validate we show red borders on the error fields.
The trickiest part was combining this with the immediate validation, without yelling at the user (we just validate fields they filled so far, after saving or validating manually, we validate the whole context).
The trickiest part was combining this with the immediate validation, without yelling at the user (we just validate fields they filled so far, after saving or validating manually, we validate the whole context).
Hi guys - nice discussion about validation dialog. we did not disabled it - but the dialog is far from ideal - almost all endusers think it is an error dialog - altough we did some minor optimization, like highlight required field on an new object - we never spend much time on this topic / dialog. we also removed the default "Validate" action since no user ever validates an object manually...
@biohazard999 , Manuel, I read your comment at https://twitter.com/biohaz999/status/1193551064701849601
Did you mean that you create custom NuGet packages for your assemblies and it is difficult to do this due to the current DevExpress.Data design (discussed in https://supportcenter.devexpress.com/ticket/details/t808990/netcore3-0-application-and-netstandard2-0-modules)? If you faced other problems, please elaborate more - thanks!
Run EasyTests in Memory with an Running Application -> New Feature of Xenial: https://www.loom.com/share/da0b09dc685c4c05a1f2ced3934fb4ed
(Note for DxDownloader Chrome needs to be installed)
(Note#2 This app is not battle tested, enter your DX credentials and start downloading dx versions) I try to provide more info on that in a later followup
(This will also be the place for the other xenial platform preview packages in future builds)
New blog post: Install a blazor app as globaltool and service
https://blog.delegate.at/2019/12/29/install-a-blazor-app-as-globaltool-and-service.html
