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    noxe
    @noxe
    hi gustavo - as for now - elsa is really great. i looked at https://workflowengine.io/ and https://elsa-workflows.github.io/elsa-core/ - and i decided to go with elsa. it works really great - is extremly customizable - and provides everything we need so far.
    Gustavo Marzioni
    @vimarx
    thanks! and are you using hangfire ?
    noxe
    @noxe
    yes - elsa + hangfire in combination. hangfire for background jobs - and now elsa with hangfire as dispatcher
    noxe
    @noxe
    @dengara_gitlab - can you share some details about the XafTypesInfo.Instance thing?
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    @noxe , you mean our recent code changes? If so, we are not yet ready - once we do, we will certainly add it to What's New or a blog/SM announce.
    noxe
    @noxe
    yes - just want to get an idea about what these changes are
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    We are just removing dependecy on the singleton, it's half way done and a lot things are to change (type converters, various criteria, model, reflection helpers).
    kashiash
    @kashiash
    v21.2.3 - Released on 01 Nov 2021
    noxe
    @noxe
    great to hear - thx Dennis!
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    @noxe , would you please share your experience with a customer (Jacob) from https://supportcenter.devexpress.com/ticket/details/t410727/edit-model-saved-in-shared-model-difference ? I remember you had a role-based layer along with the embedded Model Editor in your WinForms app. Thanks in advance.
    noxe
    @noxe
    sure - i take a look
    Evgeniy Meyke
    @emeyke
    @noxe, whats your balzor path in terms of model editing support?
    noxe
    @noxe
    hey evgeniy - how are you :) - i made some improvements last week - so in our winforms admin application we can now open and edit blazor models :)
    Evgeniy Meyke
    @emeyke
    Thats good to know as this is a key one for me! Happy running @noxe - enjoying your instagram!
    noxe
    @noxe
    thanks man! season 2021 is over now :)
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab

    Guys, please help me with NuGet Hotfixes (thank you to those who already replied me via email).

    If you are unsure about our plans, please see my post: https://community.devexpress.com/blogs/news/archive/2021/09/28/nuget-stability-and-authentication-enhancements-hot-fixes-portable-pdb-support-for-windows-and-linux-net-core-desktop-installer-deprecation.aspx

    Based on our current understanding of customer needs, we do not plan to store hotfixes indefinitely, because hotfixes are not recommended for production and are temporarily used (we already have a ton of disclaimers for this).

    We plan to store hot fixes either within a major (and remove them later after a new major is issued) or store just 10-15 the latest hotfixes within the major (and remove them after the limit).

    My concern that NuGet.org does not remove hotfixes at all, and in theory, there may be a customer who leaves his CI on a hot fix and this CI will be broken when a new major or removal limit is reached. For me, this is not a bad thing (because a more stable version is available and it is not good to stay on unstable hotfixes long), but some may disagree.

    What do you think of our plans to remove hotfixes from NuGet after some time?

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    noxe
    @noxe
    seems like there is not any traffic anymore here...
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    November - hot times everywhere. Based on support traffic everyone has just decided to finish their projects 😃
    noxe
    @noxe
    very true - we are also busy with our release for december ;)
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    @noxe Not sure if you still follow it, but discussions regularly happen on https://www.facebook.com/groups/xafxpoxamarin
    noxe
    @noxe
    of course - follow everywhere ;)
    kashiash
    @kashiash
    @dengara_gitlab when you will release 21.2.4 with VS 2022 support ?
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    In 1-2 weeks or so
    kirsten
    @kirstengreed_twitter
    I am excited to be trying 21.2.4 Blazor wizard. in VS2022.
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    JFYI: A new blog about XAF from one of our customers: https://adventuresinxaf.com/
    kashiash
    @kashiash
    parent table performace vs Own table in inheritance mapping
    abmave
    @abmave
    Hola a todos, alguien en linea?
    deseo hacer algunas consultas
    Gustavo Marzioni
    @vimarx
    @abmave el chat normalmente es en ingles, si te puedo ayudar contactame a gustavo.marzioni@vimarx.com
    Victor Domingos
    @victordomingos
    I am having an issue with AspxScheduler in XAF 21.2.3. When the user has a record in date 28/3 the whole page freezes with a lot of JavaScript errors. It seems to be an issue related to daylight savings that has been corrected in 21.2.6. Unfortunately there are parts of the solution that can’t be migrated to the new version yet, since that would affect other dependencies. The current plan is to freeze the DLLs in the projects that need 21.2.3 and migrate the rest to the newer minor version which has the bug fix.
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab

    XAF v22.1 marks the official release of our Code & Project Diagnostics (5 more popular XAF diagnostics are added as well). Previously, we added these error diagnostics only to new v21.2 projects by default (using the DevExpress.Express.CodeAnalysis NuGet package). With v22.1.4 (the next minor after the official release v22.1.3) we want to enable our Code & Project Diagnostics in existing XAF projects using the Project Converter automatically. For more information, review https://docs.devexpress.com/eXpressAppFramework/403389/debugging-testing-and-error-handling/code-diagnostics.

    Motivation:

    1. help our customers improve overall app quality/performance;
    2. avoid resource drain due to bad practices in custom code, because dealing with their consequences takes time from customers and also DevExpress support representatives.

    We are choosing between adding Code & Project Diagnostics to XAF projects unconditionally OR offering an opt-out screen in the Project Converter. What do you think about this change in general and what are your preferred options to enable this feature?

    kashiash
    @kashiash
    will be any prerelease available for testing by us ?
    Dom Sinclair
    @domsinclair
    @dengara_gitlab Having just started writing my own diagnostics and realising just how useful they can be I wouldn't object to offering them unconditionally with the base proviso that they are not over egged, by which I mean that they are not throwing warnings when in reality a message would be perfectly adequate. That's not to say that there shouldn't be warnings or indeed errors, just that they should not be for trivialities. And of course the next obvious question , will you be accompanying them with code fixes?
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    @kashiash yes, Beta after May 18th
    @domsinclair nice to hear - thanks for your opinion. BTW, today I had a customer who hit 3 of errors that could be detected by our built-in diagnostics in one ticket, which also affected the normal behavior of his app. Auto-fixes is a part of my long-term vision for this thing - for now we need to beef it up (20 more diagnostics are on our TODO list).
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab

    I shared our thoughts on the future of our XPO ORM Data Model Designer in https://supportcenter.devexpress.com/ticket/details/t1084770/moving-a-table-in-xpo-diagram-causes-visual-studio-2022-to-hang

    Thank you for sharing. Unfortunately, this is not the first and last time in the history of the XPO ORM Data Model Designer when we are dependent on the behavior of the Microsoft Modeling SDK (DSL tools, the design surface, panels, etc.), which is outside of our control.

    Having carefully analyzed the team efforts to support new Visual Studio versions and react to breaking changes in the IDE architecture (extension loading, .NET Core, etc.), we are considering dropping the XPO ORM Data Model Designer support with v22.2. Another reason is the low performance of the tooling when dozens of classes with dozens of properties are displayed in the diagram.

    We want to recommend the Code-First approach to our customers instead. To generate persistent classes from an existing database, we want to provide a console tool or Item Template/Wizard as it is now.

    What do you think about this?

    kashiash
    @kashiash
    I use code first only. Even if I start new app on legacy database, i prefer to create classes manually than import all stuff and fight with many issues with keys relations etc.
    kashiash
    @kashiash
    @dengara_gitlab Any news about beta 22.1 ?
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    The Beta v22.1 was labeled 2 days ago, currently we are finalizing the Veracode testing and docs.
    You can see what to expect from XAF v22.1 in https://community.devexpress.com/blogs/xaf/archive/2022/02/28/xaf-2022-roadmap-cross-platform-net-app-ui-and-api-services.aspx (I updated it 3-4 weeks ago after a code freeze). Let me know if you have any questions on the upcoming capabilities.
    kashiash
    @kashiash
    Is possible to get this beta version for internal testing, especially for Unit & Functional Test Infrastructure and Blazor DataGrid enchances?
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    Every active Universal subscriber will get beta access automatically soon - thanks for your patience.
    kashiash
    @kashiash
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    thanks @dengara_gitlab
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    Welcome! Yes, beta is out today.
    Sandro Ribeiro dos Santos
    @SandroCODTEC
    Has anyone here tried to retrieve a PersistentAlias field in the XAF Security Api? It does not appear in the response body. And when I explicitly include it I get the error: "The query specified in the URI is not valid. Could not find a property named 'MyPersistentAlias' on type 'MyType'.",
    kashiash
    @kashiash
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    22.1.3 is ready ;) Thanks Dennis
    Sandro Ribeiro dos Santos
    @SandroCODTEC
    Thanks
    zhousisicandy
    @zhousisicandy
    Hello