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    Matias Lagat
    @mattlagat
    Thanks @kashiash .
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab

    Happy Birthday

    Thank you, Guys!

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    Guess the upcoming v21.1 feature!
    Manuel Grundner
    @biohazard999
    @dengara_gitlab ASP mangled up into blazor? :P
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    Microsoft supports .NET 5 in Web Forms))))))))))
    Manuel Grundner
    @biohazard999
    @dengara_gitlab you are kidding me 🤣
    Last couple of miles with Xenial too!
    https://gif.xenial.io/mFSXj1PxfF.gif
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    nice design, btw
    Manuel Grundner
    @biohazard999
    Thx Dennis!
    That creditcard API is driving me nuts the last 3 days though :D
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    do you use it in EarthCape/production?
    Manuel Grundner
    @biohazard999
    the creditcard api?
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    nope, xenial modules
    Manuel Grundner
    @biohazard999
    i have several that are in production, in at least 10 customers, but there are some more and others not so often
    but non visual are fully battle tested :3
    editors is a little bit more tricky, because i write them again from scratch, because i want to get blazor parity from day 1
    second is: design goals changed to be more declarative
    @dengara_gitlab if you like you can look at a local preview (its on my machine, so expect the link to break in a couple of hours https://0ed7cea81d87.ngrok.io/)
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    as you know, I am a fan of your fluent API for layoyt customization in code
    Manuel Grundner
    @biohazard999
    @dengara_gitlab <3 Pls don't steal my idea :D
    @dengara_gitlab maybe we should talk in person in a couple of days after i got my puppy out into the wild.
    at least i discovered some differences between blazor and winforms, that were easy to solve with my builders, but hard in model editor
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    It belongs to the world:-)
    Seriously, I saw something similar in a few other customer projects in the past and Xafari recently/last summer implemented something similar on their own. But, this does not prevent me from admiring this idea in general:-)
    Sure, no problem - email me, please. The more modules, the better for the community. I think that eXpand and Xafari will appreciate it too.
    Manuel Grundner
    @biohazard999
    :shipit:
    ONE thing i can say for sure:
    For anybody that wants to paywall their nuget package and decides to write their own solution (because there isn't anything really out there for a one man shop): DON'T
    For those who might be interested in that kind of system: email me.
    I'd rather spend all that time into developing modules, not do all that other needed stuff, (Lic, Auth, Payment, Orders, Invoices, Taxes, Support Ticket System.....)
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    paywall you mean protect? I believe anything physically downloadable cannot be protected well - trust me...You can only protect support services, but only to some extent.
    Manuel Grundner
    @biohazard999
    @dengara_gitlab So as a software vendor, be really happy that you have a lot of man power to do that as a team :)
    @dengara_gitlab Good enough protected. There is no 100% protection
    its better than just a private nuget feed, but as a package author, you deliver in the end binaries, so its hard to protect them
    but its not about protection only, its more about getting value back for open source authors (or module authors from XAF perspective)
    problem is still the same
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    Yeah, that is my point, but you will see soon how it works. I also think that the sponsorship model like in eXpand Framework may work well too: https://github.com/eXpandFramework/Reactive.XAF/tree/master/src/Modules/JobScheduler.Hangfire
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    As far as I know, Xafari sells support for their modules, which is another viable option to support further product development: https://galaktika-soft.com/tickets-list (only public tickets here). JFYI.
    Manuel Grundner
    @biohazard999
    Thanks @dengara_gitlab ! I will see how adaption rate goes, and may turn business direction. For now thats the plan, but I'll see :)
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    Good, I also recommend you open Help & Feedback in a separate browser tab, not to move users away from https://framework.featurecenter.xenial.io/ModelBuilderIntroductionDemo_DetailView - at least for this feature)))
    Manuel Grundner
    @biohazard999
    (y) Thanks for the feedback :)
    noxe
    @noxe

    Guess the upcoming v21.1 feature!

    seems like first alpha is coming soon ;)

    GenesisSupzup
    @GenesisSupzup

    Guess the upcoming v21.1 feature!

    Does Windows represent MAUI?

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    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab

    seems like first alpha is coming soon ;)

    I think this year we will try something different because of the low interest to EAP testing (only a tiny fraction practically tests early builds). As we see, most users are busy with their own projects and lives and are fine just reading about the new features.

    Does Windows represent MAUI?

    No, Windows = WinForms. This screenshot is from the Solution Wizard template for .NET Core 3/.NET 5 and refers to the following item in our 2021 roadmap: "create a combined WinForms + Blazor .NET 5 solution or add a new .NET 5 Module to an existing WinForms or Blazor solution" (https://community.devexpress.com/blogs/xaf/archive/2021/02/11/xaf-2021-roadmap-cross-platform-net-app-ui-and-security-api.aspx).
    Note that ASP.NET Web Forms stays in the Solution Wizard template for .NET Framework as before - it is not being removed or anything like that, because we think many customers will keep using it for years to come.

    noxe
    @noxe

    seems like first alpha is coming soon ;)

    I think this year we will try something different because of the low interest to EAP testing (only a tiny fraction practically tests early builds). As we see, most users are busy with their own projects and lives and are fine just reading about the new features.

    Ok - anywan - i'm ready if you need an tester ;)
    kashiash
    @kashiash

    Ok - anywan - i'm ready if you need an tester ;)

    me too

    GenesisSupzup
    @GenesisSupzup
    @dengara_gitlab I'm curious if there are plans to focus on Blazor Desktop and Blazor Mobile Bindings. It could be too early to ask but should a long-time Windows Forms developer like myself be preparing to transition to all-Blazor (Blazor Server, Blazor Desktop, Blazor Mobile Bindings) as a cross-platform XAF solution? And should we be expecting a transition or integration of our existing XAF Blazor project with MAUI? I'm sorry for my too much curiosity.
    Dennis
    @dengara_gitlab
    @GenesisSupzup: both Blazor Desktop and Mobile Bindings are experimental technologies and it is too early to talk about them in XAF. We described our best vision of XAF 2021 in the roadmap (no MAUI this year).
    @kashiash, thanks - feel free to submit a private SC ticket in a 3-4 weeks, if you're still interested.
    @noxe, just a reminder that I give out preview builds to your email address only after a written consent from your wife)))