These are chat archives for ZaneDubya/UltimaXNA

21st
Aug 2015
Rex-deadwall
@Rex-deadwall
Aug 21 2015 00:47
documenting issues now
Zane Wagner
@ZaneDubya
Aug 21 2015 01:07
Thank you.
Rex-deadwall
@Rex-deadwall
Aug 21 2015 01:10
gotta head home in a few, i documented a few issues. Do you add the Bug tags or whatever later?
Zane Wagner
@ZaneDubya
Aug 21 2015 01:16
I honestly am not familiar with github's roles; if you have the ability to tag them, you are welcome to. :)
Rex-deadwall
@Rex-deadwall
Aug 21 2015 01:16
i didn't see them.
Zane Wagner
@ZaneDubya
Aug 21 2015 01:17
Then I will definitely tag them.
Perhaps that's for the best. When I see something that is untagged, I know I haven't looked at it yet.
Rex-deadwall
@Rex-deadwall
Aug 21 2015 01:17
yea that's true!
i'll bbl
Zane Wagner
@ZaneDubya
Aug 21 2015 01:18
take care!
Zane Wagner
@ZaneDubya
Aug 21 2015 02:11
There, I fixed some minimal issues.
Have to keep that streak going ;)
https://github.com/ZaneDubya 161 straight days of coding!
Deniz Sökmen
@denizsokmen
Aug 21 2015 03:05
loll
@Rex-deadwall as I told you yesterday
even though you load the new items
the server sends you item ids AND'ed with 0x3FFF
unless you handle 0xF3 packet which is the new object info packet
protected virtual Packet GetWorldPacketFor( NetState state ) {
if ( state.HighSeas )
return this.WorldPacketHS;
else if ( state.StygianAbyss )
return this.WorldPacketSA;
else
return this.WorldPacket;
}
from runuo source
Rex-deadwall
@Rex-deadwall
Aug 21 2015 04:23
ahh ok
To be honest with you guys, im not the greatest programmer. but if i can help be a tester bug finder, i think i could be of help.
Zane Wagner
@ZaneDubya
Aug 21 2015 11:16
@Rex-deadwall Yes! What we need more than anything is more eyes on the client - more bugs reported, more edge cases reported, more missing features reported - people who are veterans and could tell when some aspect of the client might look right, but is obviously wrong in practice.
Deniz Sökmen
@denizsokmen
Aug 21 2015 11:47
I will hopefully do a pull request someday :D
Th3Ma5hatt3r
@Th3Ma5hatt3r
Aug 21 2015 14:25
I plan on doing lots of testing of the client over the weekend.
I have been playing UO since the release. Man that was so long ago.
Zane Wagner
@ZaneDubya
Aug 21 2015 16:13
@Th3Ma5hatt3r That sounds good! Looking forward to those bug reports.
@/all Anyone planning on doing Ludum Dare 33? Starts in about 9 hours. I'm in for the one man, 48 hour jam. This will be my first! https://github.com/ZaneDubya/LudumDare
Th3Ma5hatt3r
@Th3Ma5hatt3r
Aug 21 2015 18:16
@ZaneDubya I had never heard of Ludum Dare before. Interesting... You could always stream you building on https://www.livecoding.tv/
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 19:42
1433 commits
just a month or so ago you were celebrating 1000!
It's great so see so much activity. Yet only 35 stars. More people need to know about this
Zane Wagner
@ZaneDubya
Aug 21 2015 21:11
@naggie any ideas for advertising?
I've tried posting to /r/ultimaonline but my post never appeared. E-mailed the mods, no response.
Maybe you would have better luck? ;P
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 21:12
You should post for the server community forums, servuo, playuo, forkuo
they are the ones who will be most interested
Zane Wagner
@ZaneDubya
Aug 21 2015 21:18
Now there's an idea...
Fair enough. Can do.
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 21:22
servuo kinda knows about it, but an official post wouldn't hurt
the administrator of servuo is actually in gitter ;) i c u @dmurphy22 ;)
Th3Ma5hatt3r
@Th3Ma5hatt3r
Aug 21 2015 21:27
@jeffboulanger creepy!!!!
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 21:30
lol
i just recognize that avatar
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 22:35
:)
I offered zane to create some sub forums for UltimaXNA on ServUO. He had some valid reasons not to do it right now though. I would be more than happy to promote a thread to a front page post though if someone makes one.
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 22:51
@ZaneDubya yeah I saw that, it's a shame it's not visible.
lol awesome.
So ServUO -- how did it come about? Fork or grassroots?
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 22:54
fork of RunUO
same with playuo/forkuo
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 22:55
ah yes ok, just because of RunUO's dev status and/or closed development?
(remember SunUO?0
)
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 22:55
i think some of them started before RunUO's dev status was bunk
but ya
SunUO was terrible
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 22:56
yes, purely the result of an argument I think
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 22:56
SunUO was literally developed because of an argument with Ryan
lol ya
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 22:56
but I used it, as I could run it on Ubuntu 8.04 at the time -- Mono support
haha
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 22:56
ya, development stopped quite abrutly if i recall
its a lot of work
i dont think people realize that
I sometimes get the urge to start up connectuo again, and then remember how much work it is, and quickly about face ;)
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 22:58
yes lots of work... Also, finding a stable community to use it is apparently difficult in 2015
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:01
ya, not worth my time really, i look at all the fragmented communities from RunUO's collapse, and realize theres like a couple handfuls of truely active people in 3-4 communities :/
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:01
yeah it's a shame really. I hope the fragmentation will end, it can do
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:02
it wont
to many egos
;)
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:09
ServUO is a fork of a fork of a fork. PlayUO is a fork of ServUO
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:09
Such fragmentation
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:10
ServUO was mostly created because RunUO was not adding most of the new content in OSI to their codebase.
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:11
so where does that place ServUO in client support? Latest?
I haven't played since ML
so lol, we have playuo the client (AKA Krrio's) and playuo the server
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:12
PlayUO was created because ServUO seemed to be dying. Last year the founder Insanity just stopped coming around and it looked like ServUO was done for so some people broke off to JustUO. Then I came a long and took over and cleaned up the forums and kept the site alive.
ServUO supports the latest client, the server has emulation for 99% of ML content and probably 80% of SA content.
It is missing a lot of HS content.
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:13
wow so many forks that's insane!
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:13
is forkuo run by Insanity too, cause his names on their admin list
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:13
so which is the 'active' fork? ;)
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:13
all of them
by different ppl
thats what i mean by egos and fragmentation
they wont all drop there version
;)
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:14
and no pulling between I assume
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:14
probably not
im betting there is no links between repos
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:14
PlayUO admitedly has more updates. The main active contributer moved over there when it opened.
I believe it went ForkUO -> CraftUO -> ServUO
that's what I meant by a fork of a fork of a fork
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:15
ya
https://www.assembla.com/spaces/forkuo/team AugmentedInsanity, wonder if thats James (Insanity)
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:16
Yeah, it is.
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:16
Same timezone as James :/
ya see
im gonna hold back on some choice words about him
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:17
Me too :P
Zane Wagner
@ZaneDubya
Aug 21 2015 23:17
Probably for the best.
;)
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:17
project hopper
thats about how far ill go
he unfortunately built up many communities around project hopping tho
Zane Wagner
@ZaneDubya
Aug 21 2015 23:18
I think that there's enough drama in the UO community - based on just my own casual observations. I won't have any of that in this project.
:)
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:18
lol
ya
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:18
I think he is gone for good now though. He just doesn't answer me when I try to contact him. I have removed him as administrator from anything got to do with ServUO
Zane Wagner
@ZaneDubya
Aug 21 2015 23:18
I totally dig that you guys have been involved for so long!
So much history in this room atm
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:18
;)
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:19
I had to do some.. Ahem engineering to save the domain name.
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:19
lol
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:20
The first time he contacted me in like a year was when he got an email from his host that there was a log in to his account from a new IP lol
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:20
didn't log in to his account and delete the email in time? :D
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:21
I didn't care :P I just wanted to save the forum. It would be a shame if it died overnight.
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:21
yeah it would
It's new to me, I must admit
thanks for saving it!
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:22
It's going no where now though. Hosting is paid up for the next 5 months and I add any donations to the account
ServUO has it's problems in its code. I am not really able to fix it much though. There are much more people capable out there to do that. Vorspire will be adding some core fixes eventually like the map fix he is working on.
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:23
what sort of problems?
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:23
Marks last few commits to RunUO were around multi threading, and it had issues
Vorspire is fixing them
To many locks, with IPooledEnumerable i believe
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:24
also how about an 'official' or recommended server for UltimaXNA? Could be a bundle.
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:24
most ppl dont want the server
jsut the client
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:24
oh dear -- didn't want to fork earlier?
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:24
dunno how it worked
just know thats what vorspire is fixing
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:25
ok
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:25
cause hes been asking for my advice, and to look over his changes to look for bugs
;)
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:25
Hehe he thinks quite highly of you.
Always has good things to say
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:25
I've noticed ;)
I like to help, and i do this for a living
So thats helpful
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:25
That and you are a wizard
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:25
lol, just experienced
from doing it every day
Team lead at work, dev all day, dont wanna touch VS outside of work though, makes me sad cause I use to love hobby projects but can't stand coding outside of work most of the time
I did manage to spare about an hour to write a program that wired into my camera and took pictures for a specified period of time and a specific interval
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:27
It makes sense though, the last thing you want to do is get burned out when you have to do it for a living.
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:27
i was pretty thrilled about that lol
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:28
Hehe, I started working on a new xml spawns editing app today. Didn't get to put much time into it but I have it populating the map with spawner locations.
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:29
nice
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:29
The available app doesnt work past XP. So I figure it is needed.
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:30
why not?
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:30
No idea to be honest, I never diagnosed it.
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:30
ah
must use a deprecated api or something
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:31
Yeah. That would make sense.
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:31
xp sp3 compatibility doesnt fixi t?
and run as admin
usually fixes most problems
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:32
Honestly I didn't try at all :) I am just trusting people when they say it doesn't work. I was just bored today haha.
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:32
:)
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:32
wow!
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:32
so you did that map ? C#/gdi?
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:32
I did learn of xml to linq with this though. Which is awesome..
c# picturebox. Ultima sdk to grab the map
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:33
ah
Callan Bryant
@naggie
Aug 21 2015 23:33
do most shards roll their own entire spawn map, and/or is there a standard?
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:33
most no
most copy someone elses, or get it from somewhere
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:33
ServUO comes with a mostly osi accurate spawn map.
Jeff Boulanger
@jeffboulanger
Aug 21 2015 23:33
it takes a long time to make your own
dmurphy22
@dmurphy22
Aug 21 2015 23:33
Spawn times are way off though