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    Hybridverse Blockchain
    @Hybridverse
    These questions are surely simple, I would love to have a general idea of how it can be and what can be done
    As of now I only tried Dero which has privacy by default and is possible to build private Dapps
    But with this on ZIL I'm really wondering, guess I'll wait for some docs about this when there's more, btw that also is great, can't wait to see
    I am confusing with this tx because Gas Price = 1000000000, Gas Limit = 1,000, and the Fee actually paid is 0.775…… So…… it's necessary to calculate actually fee by cumulative_gas?
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    李大狗
    @leeduckgo
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    I thought the cumulative_gas in Zilliqa is different from Ethereum.
    李大狗
    @leeduckgo
    And I am confusing with the unit cumulative_gas use, It's not "0.775" or 0.775*10^(-12), but 775……
    evesnow91
    @evesnow91
    Gas is the unit, each unit has a price @albertschr
    Miroslav Michálek
    @mmich95_twitter
    Hello, is that way how to get all zil addresses via viewblock API ?
    Then I constructed a tx. and the gas really used is 0.0011 ZIL .
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    And the cumulative_gas = 1
    Oh I get It, the cumulative_gas * gasPrice = fee.
    DaoChemist
    @DaoChemist_twitter
    Hey everybody, we're considering starting bi-weekly calls for the Zilliqa dev community. We created a quick survey to gage the community's interest and the topics we should bring up during the call. So, please take a couple of minutes to fill out the survey, I'll be collecting the results all week and looking to set the first call next week:
    https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/L63X9TW
    Cameron Sajedi
    @csajedi
    In the light of the dev community calls, maybe it makes sense to switch to discord. It is quite common, although my only major concern is that I like to have a feed (like TG) where regular folks can go and discuss, post memes and a separate dev channel that I can rely on being able to catch up on if I am gone for a couple days. TG general gets like ~200 messages an hour - that will stifle dev conversations as they won't happent o be around at the same time. The lack of threading in gitter chats has already shown itself to be a bit painful in that respect
    DaoChemist
    @DaoChemist_twitter
    Thanks for the feedback Cameron. I agree, if we create the proper channels, we can foster more meaningful conversations on specific topics, and make those convos easier to keep up with and participate.
    I'll share the results of the survey during the community dev call. I don't have a specific day yet, but it will happen sometimes next week, prolly Wednesday or Thursday.
    linyudong0001
    @linyudong0001
    I've done some tests in the scilla IDE, but the contract call cost is too high. It's just for testing, is not it?
    linyudong0001
    @linyudong0001
    It would be great to have a document that compares the cost of actually consuming the same functionality with other platforms (tron, eth). There will be no recurring questions and it will be very helpful in choosing zilliqa.
    李大狗
    @leeduckgo
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    Hey Bro, I have a question. is the "success" field the only way to judge the transaction is valid or invalid? Is there any other way to "fake recharge"?
    DaoChemist
    @DaoChemist_twitter
    Hey everybody, we're having our first dev call this Friday 9 am Singapore time ( 9pm EST), here is the invite:
    vamshi-gudipudi
    @vamshi-gudipudi
    Can Zilliqa upgrade to achieve similar capabilities as Elrond and Harmony?
    How difficult is it? Is this on dev radar ?
    李大狗
    @leeduckgo
    how can I run ZIL node on mainnet?
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    There is only a piece about "Boot up a local testnet for development"
    Cameron Sajedi
    @csajedi
    @albertschr the zilliqa repo you linked is just the source for the entire network - if you want to run a mining node the guide is in the wiki
    https://github.com/Zilliqa/Zilliqa/wiki/Mining
    Asindu
    @as1ndu
    Should we expect a writeup on the recent Zilliqa network outrage?
    evesnow91
    @evesnow91
    @as1ndu We are planning something along that line in the next tech update next Tuesday.
    Asindu
    @as1ndu
    👍🏿
    Cameron Sajedi
    @csajedi
    Have I missed the move to Discord for chat? I want to talk about a local scilla interpreter or a different best-practice for locally developing and debugging scilla contracts. Savant is great but has its limits.
    Amrit Kumar
    @AmritKumar
    Hello! Discord is being set up.
    Asindu
    @as1ndu
    Why do we need to move to discord again?
    Amrit Kumar
    @AmritKumar
    Several people on this channel had voiced their suggestions on the need to shift. The interface is much more friendly.
    Asindu
    @as1ndu
    okay
    Joel Yarde
    @jcyinnovations
    Hey everyone. Do you know what algo Zilliqa uses for the private key? Is it ECDSA p-256? Asking because I'm looking to generate an embedded ZIL wallet from a username/password pair in a prototype app.
    Amrit Kumar
    @AmritKumar
    Hello! It’s Schnorr Secp256k1.
    It’s better to use one of the SDKs that implement the signature scheme.
    Joel Yarde
    @jcyinnovations
    Thanks Amrit!
    Joel Yarde
    @jcyinnovations

    Afternoon everyone. Whenever I transact on Zilliqa the transactions follow this dynamic:
    1) compose the transaction and click send
    2) there is a delay of up to 2 minutes during which the transaction is not visible on ViewBlock
    3) after that delay, the transaction appears on ViewBlock and almost instantaneously is confirmed.

    In summary: the confirmations are instant, but it takes a very long time to appear on the blockchain.

    The delay on being committed to the blockchain makes the transaction appear just as slow (or sometimes even slower) than bitcoin or ethereum. So from an individual user perspective the speed of zilliqa isn't apparent.

    My questions are: What causes that delay on the chain? Is this a deliberate/architectural pause or a side-effect of something else? Can this delay be reduced to improve the "apparent" speed of the chain?

    Amrit Kumar
    @amrithoney_twitter
    @jcyinnovations There is a key difference between Zilliqa and blokchains like Bitcoin and Ethereum and that is finality to transactions. Because of the fact that Bitcoin/Ethereum use PoW for consensus, every block that is mined has probabilistic finality, i.e., the probability that a block will indeed be a part of the canonical chain increases with the number of blocks that get added on top of it. Zilliqa on the other hand uses BFT for consensus which means that once a block is mined, it is final. Therefore you don't need to wait for any confirmation at all. In Ethereum for instance, exchanges often wait for 30 confirmations as a newly mined block may not end up being in the canonical chain.
    Also, though they are somewhat correlated, there is a difference between latency and throughput.
    Joel Yarde
    @jcyinnovations
    @AmritKumar I do understand the delay is no reflection on the actual throughput of the network but it does affect the user experience (why I said "apparent" speed earlier). For a user making a payment transaction, the delay to acknowledge a committed transaction is significant. E.g if I'm at a Point-of-Sale paying for goods, when I commit the payment, the merchant then has to wait for that period before being able to confirm the payment is committed. Which is why I'm wondering if there is a way to reduce that latency.
    Cameron Sajedi
    @csajedi
    Hello again, I am looking forward to the developer chat. Where should we expect to meet? Will the channel/format be announced here?