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    Harald Steinlechner
    @haraldsteinlechner
    Offtopic, via @janneloni http://worrydream.com/AlligatorEggs/ ziemlich cool lol
    Georg Haaser
    @krauthaufen
    okay a little research brought up that only very basic datatypes are netstandard actually, but there's a community package providing most of the functionality for windows/linux/etc.
    maybe just move the whole thing to some other repo?
    in the unglygluecodestuff repo
    😀
    same thing where WPF and WinForms binding could go...
    Georg Haaser
    @krauthaufen
    hey @luithefirst @haraldsteinlechner @Plukers I'm currently cleaning up aardvark.base tests a little and found some tests that fail for various reasons. In some of these cases I can't figure out whether or not these things should work.
    e.g. Dict.GetOrCreate inside Dict.GetOrCreate
    and mostly super-weird incremental tests with concurrency (should we even have them?) can't be tested properly anyway
    Harald Steinlechner
    @haraldsteinlechner
    lui told mit about the getorcreate once
    what is going on here? https://travis-ci.org/aardvark-platform/aardvark.media . somebody seen this problem? or is just because of old build scirpt etc?
    Georg Haaser
    @krauthaufen
    had that exact same message on appveyor linux
    but I sadly couldn't figure out why
    Georg Haaser
    @krauthaufen
    a little status update for Aardvark.Base tests:
    • I ported all test-projects to netcore (had to remove Bitmap-Tests)
    • set some failing/slow tests to ignore (we should review those eventually)
    • the only project not being netcore/netstandard is now Aardvark.Base.Extensions.SystemDrawing
    ah sorry and the CodeGenerator of course
    so @haraldsteinlechner should we keep it that way?
    Effectively the most important tests are still alive and the ones that are concerned with concurrency and other non-deterministic things are mostly deactivated.
    On the upside running all the tests now "only" takes 5 minutes
    Evgeniy Andreev
    @gsomix
    so guys where is ModelUpdateView project from docs now?
    there is big tutorial on Aardvark.Media in wiki, it would be also nice to have code :)
    Harald Steinlechner
    @haraldsteinlechner
    @ThomasOrtner
    @gsomix awesome!
    Evgeniy Andreev
    @gsomix
    good morning
    I'm playing with renderdoc and HelloWorld example today, and I found captured by renderdoc OpenGL frames contains only red channel
    Vulkan's ones are colored. do I miss something?
    Evgeniy Andreev
    @gsomix
    is it a bug in renderdoc or feature of OpenGL renderer?
    Evgeniy Andreev
    @gsomix
    it seems something wrong with capturing vertices color data
    Evgeniy Andreev
    @gsomix
    btw where is DefaultOverlays defined? I cannot find it in aardvark.rendering
    Georg Haaser
    @krauthaufen
    hey, DefaultOverlays were removed some time ago as far as i remember. All the stats were quite hard to maintain, but maybe we should reimplement it when we have the time
    Evgeniy Andreev
    @gsomix
    it's time to remove it from examples :)
    Georg Haaser
    @krauthaufen
    yep
    Evgeniy Andreev
    @gsomix
    @krauthaufen btw is show { ... } prefered way for showing scene?
    examples in docs use low-level API with manual creation of app, window, etc
    Harald Steinlechner
    @haraldsteinlechner
    yes but for beginners show might be alienating. hello world examples should be low level imo
    Evgeniy Andreev
    @gsomix
    I see
    at least we can document both ways
    Evgeniy Andreev
    @gsomix

    I've updated PR and wiki a bit, so for now it's ready to merge @haraldsteinlechner

    aardvark-platform/aardvark.docs#22

    Evgeniy Andreev
    @gsomix

    @krauthaufen @haraldsteinlechner

    about .NET Core template. I'd prefer to have two separate templates: plain rendering app and UI app
    with parametrized backed

    I've created little experimental template for UI, please take a look
    https://github.com/gsomix/aardvark.template.ui
    Georg Haaser
    @krauthaufen
    hey, cool that you're creating all these things. I'll look at it when i have decent internet again.
    Evgeniy Andreev
    @gsomix
    @krauthaufen thanks!
    OK, I need to get back to OpenGL study :)
    Harald Steinlechner
    @haraldsteinlechner
    awesome1
    Harald Steinlechner
    @haraldsteinlechner
    the template effort indeed looks cool
    however i get. Unhandled Exception: System.IO.FileLoadException: Could not load file or assembly 'FSharp.Core, Version=4.6.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a'. The located assembly's manifest definition does not match the assembly reference. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80131040)
    at Program.main(String[] argv)
    this is most likely due to a package downgrade
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1603: FsPickler.Json 5.2.2 depends on SourceLink.Embed.PaketFiles (>= 0.0.0) but SourceLink.Embed.PaketFiles 0.0.0 was not found. An approximate best match of SourceLink.Embed.PaketFiles 2.1.1 was resolved.
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1608: Detected package version outside of dependency constraint: Aardvark.GPGPU 4.10.2 requires Aardvark.Base.Rendering (= 4.10.2) but version Aardvark.Base.Rendering 4.10.3 was resolved.
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1608: Detected package version outside of dependency constraint: Aardvark.Rendering.Vulkan 4.10.2 requires Aardvark.Base.Rendering (= 4.10.2) but version Aardvark.Base.Rendering 4.10.3 was resolved.
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: Detected package downgrade: FSharp.Core from 4.6.2 to 4.5.2. Reference the package directly from the project to select a different version.
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: test2 -> Aardvark.Application.Slim.GL 4.10.3 -> FSharp.Core (>= 4.6.2 && < 4.7.0)
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: test2 -> FSharp.Core (>= 4.5.2)
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: Detected package downgrade: FSharp.Core from 4.6.2 to 4.5.2. Reference the package directly from the project to select a different version.
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: test2 -> Aardvark.SceneGraph 4.10.3 -> FSharp.Core (>= 4.6.2 && < 4.7.0)
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: test2 -> FSharp.Core (>= 4.5.2)
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: Detected package downgrade: FSharp.Core from 4.6.2 to 4.5.2. Reference the package directly from the project to select a different version.
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: test2 -> Aardvark.UI 4.5.14 -> FSharp.Core (>= 4.6.2 && < 4.7.0)
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: test2 -> FSharp.Core (>= 4.5.2)
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: Detected package downgrade: FSharp.Core from 4.6.2 to 4.5.2. Reference the package directly from the project to select a different version.
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: test2 -> Aardvark.UI.Primitives 4.5.14 -> FSharp.Core (>= 4.6.2 && < 4.7.0)
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: test2 -> FSharp.Core (>= 4.5.2)
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: Detected package downgrade: FSharp.Core from 4.6.2 to 4.5.2. Reference the package directly from the project to select a different version.
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: test2 -> Aardium 1.0.21 -> Aardvark.Base.FSharp 4.5.8 -> FSharp.Core (>= 4.6.2 && < 4.7.0)
    1>D:\Development\test2\test2.fsproj : warning NU1605: test2 -> FSharp.Core (>= 4.5.2)
    this came from visual studio. when i compile using dotnet build i get a lot of warnings but it seems to work
    yep. external build is ok. building from inside of visual studio breaks the build. somebody seen such behaviour?
    Evgeniy Andreev
    @gsomix
    @haraldsteinlechner I'll take a look at evening. Didn't
    I didn't try build from VS. :)
    Mobile web gitter is crap :D