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Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
but you give up a lot in order to get those tools
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
btw. offtopic, but can you take a crash course with me on our cluster supprt? thats the module I know the least about tbh.. I know how to start up clusters and do routers, but no more :P
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
haha, sure thing
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
not now that is, some day
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
I gotta head into the office and get some lunch (probably not in that order)
released Helios v1.4 this morning
has your Mono support
Bartosz Sypytkowski
@Horusiath
we need to distribute some more learning materials about cluster and persistence
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
nice :)
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
going to send a PR that turns it on in Akka.Remote
@Horusiath yes we do
I took a look at the persistence bits for the first time last weekend
realized I need to learn more about how they work
and also, apparently JVM Akka.Persistence now depends on Akka Streaming for reads
Bartosz Sypytkowski
@Horusiath
Akka.Http also will be
reactive streams are a very universal concept, just like LINQ ;)
Greg Young sent me a disscussion about Query side of akka persistence and reasons for changing it
they concern a little how journals and persistent views may be implemented, but they shouldn't change a lot in persistent actors and at-least-once delivery
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
Btw , we had a talk with Roland yesterday . They will wait with persistence untill streams are completed
Bartosz Sypytkowski
@Horusiath
do you think we should manage some time for implementing akka streams from our side in near future?
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
Streams and io , but damn, we need a bit of rest after 1.0 :)
Bartosz Sypytkowski
@Horusiath
I think, that after 1.0 we should discuss and prepare some official road map for the next features
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
yes
Roman Golenok
@shersh
Hi all.
Guys, what about securing and encryption between client and backend? I see examples, such as Chat sample and what if we want to encrypt messages? (Not only text, maybe binary too). Is this custom logic only or it can be part of system (for example specify in config file property "encryption: RSA") ?
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
we also found out that akka v 3 has changed into a module ontop of akka 2.x.. so the new typed actorrefs and changes to how sender is handled are now just a plugin on their end
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
@shersh right now we strongly recommend running your clusters inside a private network
because we don't have any out of the box security tools yet
those have to be implemented at the transport layer inside Helios
and TLS support is on the roadmap for Helios 2.0, which I will be publishing soon
(that's my next thing after 1.0, along with Akka.Cluster)
Roman Golenok
@shersh
@Aaronontheweb , okay, thanks!
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
That beeing said, as we do support surrogates on message level, you can if you absolutely need to, create custom encrypted surrogates.. this is ofc not the correct path to walk, but it is doable as you can decide exactly how the message is formatted over the wire
Bartosz Sypytkowski
@Horusiath
hmm, this sounds like a good topic for a post ;)
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
@rogeralsing now you get to play with Akka.NET on your RaspberryPI :p cc #792
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
Yyayy
Roman Golenok
@shersh
Wow! I've been wanting to create "Smart Home" system)) Now it's more simple))
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
@Aaronontheweb : any idea why that fails?
fu gitter, dont upload my image then...
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
@Aaronontheweb isnt the new helios bits up on nuget?
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
Oh they were, but not referenced from akka.
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
yeah - the new bits should be referenced from Akka in my latest PR
Akka.Remote / Remote.TestKit
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
doing cross-platform Uris on Mono and Windows is a delicate art
relative Uris on Windows are also valid absolute Uris on POSIX
Scott Meyer
@scottmeyer
I'm trying to find some information on how akka.net remoting handles creating remote actors when no tcp connection is currently available. Can someone point me in the right direction?
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
Akka.net is p2p, if you give it an address to a remote system it will open up a connection
Everyone talks to everyone
Scott Meyer
@scottmeyer
right, but what happens if there currently isn't network access to the remote address available
does it fail immediately?
Roger Johansson
@rogeralsing
It will not be able to send messages to the remote daemon on the other side, @aaronontheweb can fill in more, he wrote most of the remoting later