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Joshua Benjamin
@annymsMthd
yeah
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
that one should not be failing
wonder if one of the asserts / expect messages stuff got affected by the XUnit 2 upgrade
would you mind re-running it?
Joshua Benjamin
@annymsMthd
yup
ill check it out
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
if you get the same result consistently then that would indicate an upgrade issue (or some other persistent issue)
I haven't personally seen that test fail in a long time though - some of the others sometimes have a persistent issue usually brought on by XUnit crashing
err, temporary issue
Joshua Benjamin
@annymsMthd
Rgr. I'll look for that and XUnit crashes. I haven't seen any XUnit crashes in awhile though.
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
well that's a good thing then
our build server's been running into issues with XUnit 1.9.2 consistently
Joshua Benjamin
@annymsMthd
Any plans to get these running on the build agent?
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
yes - we've been holding off a bit until we get closer to releasing Akka.Cluster because it effectively doubles the build time
Is this Orlrans?
*orleans
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
@nvivo nah, it's something bigger than that
it's the next generation of Azure PaaS
true PaaS capabilities
Natan Vivo
@nvivo
It says "actor model"
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
yeah, that's not Orleans either :p
Natan Vivo
@nvivo
Thought was an azure product based on orleans
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
might be derived from it though
Joshua Benjamin
@annymsMthd
I'm looking forward to containers
Natan Vivo
@nvivo
Yep
Containers are the future
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
well since it's public now, I guess I can comment on it - all of the core contributors have been under NDA on it
the actor model they're exposing is a programming framework for being able to leverage these capabilities on the Service Fabric runtime
because the low-level APIs for using it are extremely complicated and unfriendly
I have friends on the SQL Azure team who used themd
so this stuff aligns really well with Akka.NET too
Joshua Benjamin
@annymsMthd
So this is probably something separate from windows containers and nano server?
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
not sure to be honest
I don't know the rest of the details
Natan Vivo
@nvivo
Honestly, MS is currently a mess compared to what they were
But I guess this is for the best
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
only what's in that article
MS is in a "throw it on the wall and see what sticks" phase
the kindness they've done us is OSS the CLR and make it so the .NET ecosystem is no longer solely dependent on them
Natan Vivo
@nvivo
I like thay are trying new stuff and open sourcing, but at the same time they have 6 solutions for every problem and none of them is fully baked
Aaron Stannard
@Aaronontheweb
yep
MSFT has always had that problem
they go out and make it so you can run Hadoop on Azure
then simultaneously roll out their own propreitary version of MapReduce
and then also kill off Dryad (another proprietary M/R implementation they'd been doing for years out of MSR)
the criticism I would level at Microsoft is to knock if off with the "not invented here" shit
because frankly they haven't been that good at it on a lot of fronts
i.e. Metro UI
Natan Vivo
@nvivo
Agree