akkadotnet/akka.net

Port of Akka actors for .NET

Nicolas Bourbaki

@b0urb4k1

Ok but i guess you need to throw away determinism then.

Zetanova

@Zetanova

not realy

Nicolas Bourbaki

@b0urb4k1

Lets say you wanted to model something like a board game.

Then you need the sequence of actions of several of the actors.

Zetanova

@Zetanova

then the board can sync the steps or a child of board-actor

Nicolas Bourbaki

@b0urb4k1

Oh!

What is the name of the class i need to look up?

Zetanova

@Zetanova

ActorBase

most likly

Christian Duhard

@cduhard

If I send a RoundRobin router a PoisonPill.Instance i assume they all get the PoisonPill?

Christian Duhard

@cduhard

are there any examples on how to use GracefulStop correctly?

Aaron Stannard

@Aaronontheweb

@cduhard if you PoisonPill the router the router dies

and so do all of its routees

if it's a pool router

Christian Duhard

@cduhard

k it is

Aaron Stannard

@Aaronontheweb

for using GracefulStop

how that works by default is it PoisonPill's the target actor

Christian Duhard

@cduhard

@Aaronontheweb i am mostly not sure what to do with the Tasks if I have numerous children to stop

Aaron Stannard

@Aaronontheweb

and you the Task<bool> returns true if the temporary actor created by the GracefulStop call, kind of like the temporary actors created by Ask, gets a Terminated message

Christian Duhard

@cduhard

say for instance I have

Actor2.GracefulStop(TimeSpan.FromSeconds(10));
Actor3.GracefulStop(TimeSpan.FromSeconds(10), new Shutdown());

when all gracefulstop Tasks are complete I need to send a Passivate type message

i guess this is more about my shitty async skills than anythig

Christian Duhard

@cduhard

I assume sending a poisonPill just effects that actor and not it's watched children

Aaron Stannard

@Aaronontheweb

@alexvaluyskiy that's the goal

Christian Duhard

@cduhard

@Aaronontheweb so the bool returned from GracefulStop just tells me if the stop was actually graceful and didn't time out?

Aaron Stannard

@Aaronontheweb

bool == false if it timed out

didn't shut down in time

bool == true if it did

Christian Duhard

@cduhard

so its still running if it's false?

Aaron Stannard

@Aaronontheweb

and after we merge akkadotnet/akka.net#1765 all children will have been terminated also

like, guaranteed to have been stopped

correct

still running if false

when PoisonPill is sent, the actor must process all previous messages in its inbox first

before it can shut down

you can customize the shutdown message on GracefulStop too - there's an overload that supports that

so it can be something user-defined potentially

Christian Duhard

@cduhard

yeah, i've been using that

Aaron Stannard

@Aaronontheweb

just know that your message will also be user-defined, so it'll have the same behavior as PoisonPill in terms of processing order

if there's a big backlog of messages sitting in front of it

Christian Duhard

@cduhard

yep

Aaron Stannard

@Aaronontheweb

then the likelihood of a timeout will be higher

Christian Duhard

@cduhard

this graceful shutdown is a lot harder than I anticipated

Aaron Stannard

@Aaronontheweb

what's the issue exactly?

Christian Duhard

@cduhard

coordinating everything

Aaron Stannard

@Aaronontheweb

one pattern I've used

and we use this inside the Remoting class for doing a simultaneous shutdown of all transports at once

is I'll build a list of IActorRefs that need to be shutdown

call graceful stop on all of them and build a Task<bool> []

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