amark/gun

welcome to the community chat! :)

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]RobChristian: <@!178314946201780224> notice that <@!647370527635144704> posted his first message this morning around 3 AM, and I replied around 8:30 AM. I WAS ASLEEP.

[D]RobChristian: <@!178314946201780224> you think that I came online to post a complaint, as a fake user, and then came back online SEVERAL HOURS LATER, as myself, to post the answer to my fake user? uhg
<@!647370527635144704> think you could somehow prove, for <@!178314946201780224>, that you're not a fake user of mine?

go1dfish

@go1dfish

I don't mean ready in the sense that it doesn't work well, I mean ready in the sense that nobody would really know where to start with spinning it up for anything due to a lack of docs and examples

this is also true of nab itself, because I've been holding off on that until I have a solid, stable solution that's easy for others to spin up and maintain

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]bmatusiak: <@178314946201780224> yea I'm gonna have to put webauthn/fido2-u2f down and get back to the fun projects, giving me a stroke or something

[D]marknadal: <@!506274864089268235> thanks for sharing, sounds good.
@go1dfish but you're always so responsive, that is how I bootstrapped most of GUN docs anyhow. Tho totally respect your decision. But I am excited to see more people use chaingun.
Holy cow, have people seen <@!139291366869041153> 's Svelte demos? They're insanely compelling, check <#635598696498855956> !!!!

[D]marknadal: <@!280426612900757504> what's not fun about hardcore cryptography 😉 haha, kidding. What fun projects you thinking about?

[D]bmatusiak: peersocial and gunfs

[D]bmatusiak: and cloud9/w gunfs suuport

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]bmatusiak: cloud9-gun = test site https://www.peersocial.io/gun-bundle/

[D]bmatusiak: time to lock the doors and go home

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]jabis: meh - cool - 1200+messages unread here x)

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]marknadal: <@!280426612900757504> 😄 😄 :D, explain the C9 + GUN, is C9 saving files to GUN, or C9 loaded out of GUN? Didn't that require some insane hackery to C9? I didn't even know C9 was Open Source.
<@!648558515463651338> 😛 community is leeeegiiiiiit 😛 tho nobody should feel obligated to read everything (except me) or else it becomes "work" rather than fun. And I definitely want it to stay fun.

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]jabis: a little bit late but HNY everyone 😛 I'll be returning to the "forge" maybe during next week or sth, have some(read: a lot) of visa stuff to resolve - places to be - meanwhile riding the doggy to the vets semi-daily, so a lot out of involuntary out-of-puter things in my schedule ^^

[D]anoxy: <@178314946201780224> thanks it is hard to not help when there are great people in here helping me out :) I really love this community!

<@648558515463651338> I really hope that your becomes healthy one day. As I wrote earlier they to raise the dogs pH-level . It is because of low pH levels animals and humans gets cancer

[D]anoxy: <@178314946201780224> is it possible to write binary files in a GUN node ?

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]bmatusiak: <@!178314946201780224> so cloud9 license states that it is available as SDK for plugin development for license for non-commercial use, my indented goal is to build the gunfs plugin (for personal use), this works for me as im not
commercializing my it. and building the plugin is a good way to test out gunfs

[D]bmatusiak: is C9 saving files to GUN, or C9 loaded out of GUN? so currently, c9 is saving files in gun, now the real next thing for me is to create a package manager for peerApps, when i have a package-manager done,, i can then pack cloud9+gun into a package,

[D]bmatusiak: with the package manager, im planning a lot of tools.

[D]bmatusiak: like signing/verifying with ACL

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]bmatusiak: i also need to build in indexing for gunfs

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]anoxy: <@139291366869041153> you are doing an amazing job, I hope that you can gather together all links which we can see in the GUNDB Svelte documents

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]anoxy: A question, lets say that I put data in a node with:

        1. `someData1 = {name: 'Title', tag: 'my tag'}`
        2. `user.get('notes').get('category').get(nodeKey).put(someData1)`

        then I delete that data with:
        3. `user.get('notes').get('category').get(nodeKey).put(null)`

        the `nodeKey` will still be there, but if I choose to delete the `nodeKey` itself by using
        4. `user.get('notes').get('category').put(null)`

        is all the data belonging to that nodeKey also delete? 
        Lets assume that I delete the `nodeKey`, and later on I add some data to the same nodeKey:

        5. `someData2 = {describe: 'Some description', where: 'here :) '}`
        6. `user.get('notes').get('category').get(nodeKey).put(someData2)`

        will anything from the old data (`someData1`) be shown after step `6` ?
        In other words will the `name` and `tag` words still be there even though I deleted it according to step `3`?

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]bmatusiak: <@!366349503265112074> user.get('notes').get('category').put(null) will delete other nodekeys

[D]Dletta: but all the children are preserved at root

[D]Dletta: so you could re-reference them later

[D]Dletta: <@!366349503265112074>

[D]bmatusiak: ^^

[D]vegardkrogh: How about this?

// add object with multiple keys
user.get("notes").get(key).put({ name, tag })

// delete single key/value from object

let document;
user.get("notes").get(key).once(data => (document = data))
delete document["tags"]

user.get("notes").get(key).put(null).put(document)

[D]Dletta: So let's say you do 4. before 3 then you can go back to someData1 and it will still be here

[D]anoxy: <@!280426612900757504> yes I am aware of that, but the nodeKeys are still there and probably withs data as well preserved at root, so whener I add a nodeKey back its content will be back or am I wrong <@!612728945313316904> ?

[D]vegardkrogh: <@!366349503265112074> thank you! I'll try to update the documents with as many sensible approaches as I can find. But I really think that https://github.com/irislib/iris-lib is a great example of proper usage of GUN in a library, but it's hard to make an approach like this fit the format of documentation examples

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]anoxy: <@!139291366869041153> thanks I will test your coding.
indeed iris-lib is good, but I think we need more simple demos for making people to get used to both GUN and Svelte 🙂

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]anoxy: Ok guys, I have issues now with deleting a node and later on adding some data to it.
https://jsbin.com/rorezebaho/edit?html,js,console,output

[D]anoxy: basically I add data to a node with:
user.get('notes').get('category').get(Gun.time.is()).put(objectData);

and I delete all the data with:
user.get('notes').get('category').put(null);

this works without any problems.... BUT I cannot add more data to that node again after setting it to null

so if I do this again:
user.get('notes').get('category').get(Gun.time.is()).put(objectData);

the data isnt added at all even though I cannot see the result of the object in the Console

[D]anoxy: please check the link above and tell me what I am doing wrong

[D]anoxy: note that I can delete nodeKeys without any problems, but this user.get('notes').get('category').put(null); doesnt work

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]anoxy: Is this perhaps a bug?

pszabop

@pszabop

@amark in the bug I filed regarding the internal timeout errors (warnings?) I was able to reproduce it with just callbacks. Add a delay of about 10-20 seconds to the end of a test, they'll show up.

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

I sent you a DM

pszabop

@pszabop

@amark I'm starting to use ETL / scatter gather and once I get used to the idiosyncrasies of the Gun API it seems to work fine so far. In fact I'm writing a lightweight wrapper to hide the idiosyncrasies and I'd be happy to share when I've got something more substantial

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]bmatusiak: <@!366349503265112074> i was able to re init the scope like

    user.get('notes').get('category').put({init:Gun.time.is()})
  });

[D]bmatusiak: so to you can do this to add them instead

var $gk = {};
  $gk[Gun.time.is()] = objectData;
    user.get('notes').get('category').put($gk)

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]Dletta: <@366349503265112074> if you had other data on your key it will be back

[D]Dletta: But if you null them all out, then it will just show nulls

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]anoxy: <@280426612900757504> by re-init do you mean: get back the node data ?

<@612728945313316904> so in other words, if I put null on a node for ie in my case if I do null on category by get('category') then only the node itself gets nulled, any other data or keyNodes which belongs to that node will still be present in the root right ?

[D]anoxy: How can I null out all data and nodeKeys which belongs to a nodem

[D]anoxy: <@280426612900757504> but why cannot I only use the regular method by using put(someData) in a node which has been nulled ?

[D]anoxy: I think this is an odd behavior, I should at least be able to use the regular put(someData) in a
nulled node.

Jachen Duschletta

@Dletta

[D]anoxy: @anoxy if you had other data on your key it will be back

<@612728945313316904> you wrote like this, can you please provide an example of this after using null on the node ?

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