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Mark Nadal
@amark
@cuterajat26_gitlab @deztopia @schicks are you able to join the http://chat.gun.eco discord? Most of the community switched there months ago, but I've always been worried about forcing people to use X or Y platform and not wanting fragmentation to happen.
Jason Melendez
@deztopia
@amark ah, I see...thanks, I’ll join today. btw, used your method to clear list items, and it works great so I’ll roll with that. I appreciate the help
Mark Nadal
@amark
@deztopia :tada: :tada: :tada: ! :D :) alright, cheers... gonna code cya.
Stefdv
@Stefdv
@amark no i don't remember what it was, i do remember that i never used it anyway... However there is a discussion about this going on - w3c/webrtc-pc#2489
Wilson Ler
@lws803
Hi! are there any updates on the grant and trust methods for user authentication? Are they still in development?
Mark Nadal
@amark
@lws803 yo :) I hope you made it over to the discord, sorry everyone for the community transition. Gitter was more "open" which I liked, but discord has been more stable/reliable & searchable. grant and trust way below the CPU scheduler, JSON parser, DHT, and base User API improvements & bug fixes. So yeah :P unless you want to contribute <3 <3 based off my spec/API design, assume its gonna be a long time.
@Stefdv thanks! See ya over in discord.
Max Baluev
@maxbaluev
Hello! I want to store large amounts of data using sharding. Is that possible with gun.js at the moment?
Max Baluev
@maxbaluev
@amark ?
Stefdv
@Stefdv
@maxbaluev you better switch to http://chat.gun.eco discord. I'm afraid gitter is getting less attention these days
@cuterajat26_gitlab @deztopia @schicks are you able to join the http://chat.gun.eco discord? Most of the community switched there months ago, but I've always been worried about forcing people to use X or Y platform and not wanting fragmentation to happen.
Max Baluev
@maxbaluev
thank you
Jacob
@jacobpdq

Long time everyone @amark just continuing research (now into first-order logic languages)

Is there some kind of identification protocol you'd like to see for identifiers or locators in any language for a gun call?

e.g. HTTP:// <locator>
e.g. gun:// <ip?> | <identifier?> | <pool?>
(hoping we can get some kind of browser-default WS call to any gun database that way)

I'm asking because OWL, N3, have these kinds of protocols embedded in their resource locators.
Jacob
@jacobpdq
could it be
wss://gunserver.com/#identifier, 'gun'
(protocol)
such as in var exampleSocket = new WebSocket("wss://www.example.com/socketserver", "protocolOne"
i.e. if I wanted to declare a triple, or some kind of RDF store... what would I put in there as the uri or identifier? @Dletta
Mark Nadal
@amark
@jacobpdq hiii :) may want to try discord now http://chat.gun.eco , I've always been anti-domain/protocol/etc. identifiers, as the only usefully meaningful thing that can be self-enforced is cryptographic identifiers, next up I do think it may be ok for schema identifiers to be embedded into it... which is kinda what a protocol is doing, but I think these should be optional/flexible/not-rigid. Finally, you'd probably want to do something like gun://soul never a domain or specific server, as the soul is the lookup for it, the servers shouldn't matter at the end of day.
munzir
@munzx
Hi! I have got to test gun about a year ago, and I am back again and saw great progress but again am not sure if it works for me as I didn't find any answer to a simple question, how cam I make sure that my db will only hold the data I want e.g. deleted items will be permanently removed
munzir
@munzx
Sorry if you found my message rude
Anyway thanks for efforts
*the
Ender Minyard
@genderev

Okay, I think I have a really simple question. How do you access the number of keys for a certain path?

I have function gun.get("genderev").map().on(function(k,v){...} }) and it returns two defined keys. How do I write a function to access the number of defined keys? I've spent a good amount of time trying to figure this out alone because it seems so simple. I had problems with async and sync mixups when I tried to use a simple array.

Mark Nadal
@amark
@munzx hmm, https://gun.eco/docs/Delete still probably represents the current "status" of things. Altho we did just add https://gun.eco/docs/Forget which may be useful as a feature, but may not address technical concerns?
@genderev what do you mean the number of defined keys? Like {a: 'foo', b: 'bar'} has 2? .get('node').on(x => console.log(Object.keys(x).length))?
gunchatbridge
@gunchatbridge
[D] jabis: ping
Jabis Sevon
@jabis
test
Mark Nadal
@amark
bridge.
gunchatbridge
@gunchatbridge
[D] marknadal: online.
[D] marknadal: 😄 🙂 ❤️
[D] jabis: <@!178314946201780224> there's some problems with discord lib, and gun had died fantastically
[D] vegard: <@!178314946201780224> I'll answer any questions about the subscribe method or if anyone has questions about Svelte. subscribe() uses stable APIs apart from Gun.node.soul(), getting the key/soul of the data and of course the isMap check. But I guess the latter won't ever change...
[D] marknadal: <@!648558515463651338> oh my! line 1168... what version? soul should definitely be string, not undefined! (oo? <@!636489182214357002> ?)
[D] cywalker: Hi <@!178314946201780224> & all,
[D] cywalker: so .soul() .... should we carry on using it or???
[D] cywalker: or go back to ._# thingy
[D] marknadal: Everybody!
I had an incredible day of extremely high profile meetings today.
Yes, I'm sure not as exciting as getting code done :P
But if they keep going well next couple of weeks, it could be big! Or... fail 😛 you'll know.
I promised I'd resume coding beginning of August, and I actually made some great progress until I hit needing to update the ack system to handle put that get split up into smaller writes. I have a design for it from months ago now, but always tricky if right to implement. Trying to still tackle that while I'm also doing the meetings.
[D] cywalker: 1 other quick question on souls as well... is there any chance of a soul having ~ as last character?
gunchatbridge
@gunchatbridge
[D] jabis: <@!178314946201780224> fbcb369 HEAD@{0}: clone: from https://github.com/amark/gun.git
[D] marknadal: <@!139291366869041153> BTW my PANIC test smoothly streams 10K chat messages now 😛 to keep up with your apps! Tho this new version not released yet, gotta ^ everything.
[D] marknadal: <@!717954438756565024> I'd encourage ._# so you don't have to use the shim.
[D] jabis: I don't really upkeep the codebase, just host the bot and have a looksie every now and then 🙂
[D] marknadal: <@!717954438756565024> a soul could be anything, but SEA shouldn't encode ~ at end.
[D] cywalker: lol... since I'd got into gun I was changing what I'd done ages ago from _# to .soul()!
[D] marknadal: sowwy lol
[D] jabis: version seems to be 0.2020.301 according to pm2 metadata
[D] vegard: <@!178314946201780224> Cool, great work!
[D] marknadal: <@!717954438756565024> just keep code as is then
[D] cywalker: <@!178314946201780224> all good! cheers
gunchatbridge
@gunchatbridge
[D] marknadal: that'll be a good reason for me to update the shim over time too, when I finally allow for non-JSON graphs, for those, how it'll be structured will be slightly different and might as well have node.soul( work for all of them.
[D] marknadal: <@!648558515463651338> ok I just checked, yes I added a check for this on current version so it won't crash there anymore.
Actually, maybe you're a good person to bounce my split-ack thoughts against.