trying to make my own gun relay with storage saved to disk. but the
/gun route always gives me a 400
I've finished Gunsafe .. the example CLI might be a little buggy at times, and there appears to be a parsing issue with multiline documents that contain special characters.. but it's a start.
I wrote Carets to make working with multiline objects from the CLI for gunsafe a little less painful than readline and/or stdin by themselves
I’ve seen talks where Mark mentions AXE, but didn’t quite understand how exactly it is supposed to work from a technical (not conceptual) perspective.
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Also, ideologically, is GUN supposed to be one giant network or each application should implement it’s own network on top of GUN with it’s own rules?
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@mmalmi: impressed with iris's progress would be good if you had a matrix room to discuss it, iris has problems retaining content
yes i like iris as well... been checking out a lot of projects and it is one of my favorite finds
I heard there might be some juicy WebRTC DHT treasure going on here. Where could I start reading to get up to speed?
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can anyone explain how to resolve this error
i have tried on kali
i have tried on wimdows and cant understand how to get this working
If you only want a relay, then just do this:
npm install gun && cd node_modules/gun && npm start
I guess I am pretty lost, I am new to this end of things. I know alot of peaple that are interested in getting out of the main stream bs, and would be interted in this. But I can not figure out how to set it up so they can down load as an app, or even get it working at all. I have to head to work but if someone wouldbe willing to give me some direction later it would be appreciated
@Manwe-777 honestly I have tried npm, git hub a few different ones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc2sIPDrX_k , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvo6jC1OA3Y, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5x3OMXjgMc&t=272s, https://gun.eco/docs/ (that was the most confusing thing to be honest) I trired with firebase, I tried with ste,
@Manwe-777 it have to be me, I really think a walk though to ppl that don't code, or build sites my help alot with getting this more main stream... I have want to help and get this out to my colleagues, that is why I ened up on the form... Honestly this is the second chat form I have every reached out to..
I think the server migration should be theoretically possible cryptography-wise. I guess some clever trick is needed to make this work. Maybe a user can store a public key of the server it currently trusts. So, any changes that violate this rule will be rejected from the network. (Or something along these lines. I really need to think this trough before implementing anything...)
I’m curious, is there a way to tell gun relay what data to cache? Ideally I would want it to store all the data of it’s users, some globally available network cache and maybe parts of data of a user from another server. About the last one: for example user A wants to share access to a document with user B, but they are served by different servers. Both users explicitly agree on this transaction. In this case I want the relay of user B to cache A’s document.
Question is do you also want users to be able to revoke read permissions on that data? Or only future data? The latter is possible however still not easy. But if it's self hosted all that doesn't matter, right?
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And your local code is broken because you were working adding features... LOL ugh.
I want to start DMing User B. How does the system facilitate public key sharing between User A and User B without copy pasting?
@entermonke:matrix.org ipv6 & pubkeys seem roughly same in difficulty to remember. Linkability matters. Iris Web of Trust should let us do "Elon Musk" with 99% score, confidence ratings on/for every name.
@snowyu :+1:
@Leo24535831_twitter just the docs for now, eventually I'll write new courses but I always get busy with scaling.
@spoggy:matrix.org I think they said I could copy it, I'll try to publish it publicly.
@quixnix:matrix.org (?)
@entermonke:matrix.org gun/axe.js
@poiyo:matrix.org :clap: @rococtz:matrix.org .
@hadrienmp:matrix.org :clap: @draeder .
@SuleimanZhukov did you get it figured out?
@DecentralisedTech yes, password is local only.
@nicholasoxford :clap: @azarattum:matrix.org @Manwe-777 . It should. What error does it give?
@azarattum:matrix.org :clap: @rococtz:matrix.org :clap: @Lexi:matrix.org !
You usually don't want WebRTC to exceed 6 connections. Could look at how many people are subscribed to a particular node in AXE, but that is only for each network hop. Latest github has upgraded put acks to have probabilistic counters of who has saved data. (And yes, they come from other peers, even if not directly connected). Yes, AXE in NodeJS runs by default - this is a good current status of where AXE is at:
https://twitter.com/marknadal/status/1529177377120497664 ( + @evan-brass:matrix.org )
@SarahKay99 :+1: .
@yorreraj they listeners are
@azdez:matrix.org looks like your
@draeder :fire: :clap: :fire: !
@azarattum:matrix.org :clap: @Lexi:matrix.org that is an excellent explanation!!!
@snowyu :+1:
@Leo24535831_twitter just the docs for now, eventually I'll write new courses but I always get busy with scaling.
@spoggy:matrix.org I think they said I could copy it, I'll try to publish it publicly.
@quixnix:matrix.org (?)
@entermonke:matrix.org gun/axe.js
@poiyo:matrix.org :clap: @rococtz:matrix.org .
@hadrienmp:matrix.org :clap: @draeder .
@SuleimanZhukov did you get it figured out?
@DecentralisedTech yes, password is local only.
@nicholasoxford :clap: @azarattum:matrix.org @Manwe-777 . It should. What error does it give?
@azarattum:matrix.org :clap: @rococtz:matrix.org :clap: @Lexi:matrix.org !
You usually don't want WebRTC to exceed 6 connections. Could look at how many people are subscribed to a particular node in AXE, but that is only for each network hop. Latest github has upgraded put acks to have probabilistic counters of who has saved data. (And yes, they come from other peers, even if not directly connected). Yes, AXE in NodeJS runs by default - this is a good current status of where AXE is at:
https://twitter.com/marknadal/status/1529177377120497664 ( + @evan-brass:matrix.org )
@SarahKay99 :+1: .
@yorreraj they listeners are
gun.on('hi', function... and 'byte' not connected/disconnect.@azdez:matrix.org looks like your
* taking higher precedence?@draeder :fire: :clap: :fire: !
@azarattum:matrix.org :clap: @Lexi:matrix.org that is an excellent explanation!!!
- Happy to hop on a call, @draeder has been helping me build AXE in code calls. Feel free to join!
:clap: @rococtz:matrix.org .
Nice diagram. Decentralized is different than Federated. Email is federated. You can build a federated system with decentralized systems, but I'd recommend you stick to fully decentralized. :clap: @draeder :clap: @Lexi:matrix.org :clap: @Manwe-777 .
@entermonke:matrix.org + @fractal:matrix.org :clap: yes @mmalmi ! Iris! :)
@evan-brass:matrix.org , yes WebRTC signaling automatically happens from every peer (even browsers!), join the (see above) calls as we're building the DHT part now!
@ghost~62c3eb896da0373984998ff1 what is wrong?
@harshavardhan282 if you are using GUN for browser, it is pre-built, just usegun/gun.js(don't build it). If React Native, see https://github.com/aethiop/jot tutorial.
@donlevirobert_gitlab :clap: @entermonke:matrix.org :clap: @Manwe-777 . If you're mainstream, why not just use an in-browser app that runs GUN already? There is no need to download/install GUN to use GUN. Using a browser app that uses GUN already helps contribute to the network. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your goals? What are your goals?
@entermonke:matrix.org founder of freenet guy just DMed me last week to talk! I felt so honored. We're discussing to see if we can make locutus interoperably use same messaging system as GUN's.
@azarattum:matrix.org yeah @draeder 's gunsafe pairing system might be an interesting solution for doing trusted remote compute.
Yes, the DHT part will allow peers to select a lexical shard they persistently store data for (until running out of space).
:clap: @Lexi:matrix.org .
@spoggy:matrix.org nice mindmap! Have you seen @davay42 's realtime mindmapping & node system? Its gun-vue & includes tons of other modules. Very advanced.
:clap: @bmatusiak for explaining cryptography stuff. Hey, is anyone able/willing to sponsor @bmatusiak ? Or know companies hiring in cybersecurity you can refer him to?
@quixnix:matrix.org might need to tag typescript people to help you.
@snowycoder:matrix.org I can't tell if gitter is being buggy, or just jumping to chats I replied to last week or not. But you saw how GUN does decentralized discovery and rebalances itself right? (See the twitter link I linked to above, it has a video). You and @Azarattum having similar Qs, I'll try to expand more - let me know!
@SarahKay99 clicking on links (which have the pubkey) is gonna be easiest since that is how pretty much all apps/web work to start. Once people are already in your app tho, you can do indexed searches like @rococtz:matrix.org has demos/links of. So in-app users would search for a name, and you'd show a list of results (maybe Web of Trust score, Iris-style) and people would click on those accounts and "add friend" which underneath would add their pubkey.
HOPE EVERYONE HAD AN AMAZING FOURTH OF JULY!!!!!!!!! :fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks:
A quick summary of how AXE's DHT will work, interoperating with our RAD storage engine:
https://twitter.com/marknadal/status/1544403948122955776
Happy to expand on further detail here, given recent Qs.
https://twitter.com/marknadal/status/1544403948122955776
Happy to expand on further detail here, given recent Qs.
@amark: when we create our own relay, is it
express.use(Gun.serve) or express.use(Gun.serve(someDirectoryToServe))?
hey guys quick question, is there a way to "construct" the subproperties of a chain just one level deep before returning it?
for example:
{
"name": "foo",
"address": {
"city": "bar",
"street": {
// unneeded data
}
}
}here, i'd like to access just the name and address.city
i thought about using load(), but i don't really need to access all the subproperties
or will i have to do separate get() calls to achieve this?
tldr: is there a way to include the resolution of subproperties when using on() or once() on a document?
Is there a full text search example? Like, how do I search for let’s say post’s descriptions that include the word ‘test’? Especially if the searching peer does not have all the posts currently available in it’s database.
Is there a way to tell the network “hey does anybody has X” and retrieve only the search results, but not an entire posts set? I’m okay if some kind of indexing setup is needed, since O(n) for this isn’t very nice...
Azarattum: there isn't anything out of the box, but it can be implement with not so much effort. I wrote this example some time ago, maybe you can find what you need in it:
https://codesandbox.io/s/react-playground-forked-631nt
https://codesandbox.io/s/react-playground-forked-631nt
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Azarattum: The users only store what they subscribe to so they won't store huge amounts of data unless they actually try to access it and subscribe to it. I think the easiest thing to do is to test your own scenario using multiple browsers and see what happens. You can always inspect the local storage in the developer console and see what gets stored
But, when you do
get({ ".": { "*": e.target.value } }) don't you subscribe to an entire peer?
Also how did you figure out the
{ ".": { "*": e.target.value } } part? I can't see anything in docs mentioning that you can use something other than a string as a key to get.
Azarattum: The data accessed with once or load will be stored. Again, try it yourself and see what happens, that's the best way to find out. This is the documentation for the queries: https://gun.eco/docs/RAD#lex
Does anyone know what the
label Object of GUN nodes is for? Is there documentation for it?
@draeder @rococtz:matrix.org @bmatusiak @Manwe-777 @ilhamgum @amark
there is any limit on node capacity for storing data? i'm testing the node
it's start give me this message : Warning: "You're syncing 1K+ records a second, faster than DOM can update - consider limiting query."
i'm trying to query 400 refNodes
there is any limit on node capacity for storing data? i'm testing the node
it's start give me this message : Warning: "You're syncing 1K+ records a second, faster than DOM can update - consider limiting query."
i'm trying to query 400 refNodes
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