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4th
Mar 2016
idivait
@idivait
Mar 04 2016 00:27
w00t #238 :D
in hindsight, that should have been an obvious issue
this is why I never claim to be a good programmer :/
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 00:45
i probably laughed harder at this than i should XD https://github.com/saucelabs/isign/pull/17#discussion-diff-54970831R100
The funny bit is that they appear to be NIH'ing Apple's code signing utilities
Pretty sure XCode already does all that for you, not sure why they're writing a python script.
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 00:52
i have no idea about all of this :D
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 09:04
Good morning all!
@lye I've asked for character-id's in /v2/characters and /v2/pvp/games and a team-roster via forums. Is there any chance that this gets implemented in the future? That would be awesome for some pvp-tools :)
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 10:58
@codemasher thank you :(
at least there should be the "character name" in the /v2/pvp/games api, so i can get infos by searching for this character name when fetching data to my database.
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 10:59
ah right, now this would make sense
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 10:59
I think this is more exact than fetching only the class
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 11:00
i wonder if they could add a hash of the character name instead of an ID
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 11:00
for example: if you have 2 guardians, you cannot see which equip / build he used in the last match
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 11:00
it would moot the problem of using internal IDs and give us the chance to link data
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 11:00
That would be awesome. It's annoying that there is no identifier (except of the creation date)
@lye is that a possibility to avoid security problems? :)
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 11:01
well, might poke Lawton later, pretty sure he's asleep now :P
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 11:01
hehe.
Perhaps he dreams from chatting via gitter :D
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 11:01
(it's 3am over there iirc)
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 11:02
Oh yeah. On weekdays I'm sleeping at 3am too. :D
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 12:56
weekend! yay!
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 12:56
8 hours to go
omg gitter
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 13:00
lol
that big of an embed for a song
:P
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 13:00
yea >.<
anyway, that song is good, it deserves to be embedded that big :D
(i wonder what happens if i link an entire album tho....)
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Mar 04 2016 13:25
Gitter explodes
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 13:25
with colors
:P
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 13:26
lets see... :D
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 13:26
omg
lol
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 13:27
ok, thats actually not bad, but why still that big? >.<
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 13:27
I bet that if it would be smaller with a scroll bar, we would complain :P
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 13:59
for the webdevelopers here: http://design.google.com/resizer/
quite useful for responsive websites
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 14:01
thanks
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 14:10
@windwarrior thanks! (chrome has that built in btw. dev-tools -> top left corner -> toggle device mode)
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 14:20
juh, but this is one eye again
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 14:21
lol, nice!
@nobody0705 for character ids, we can't expose the actual character id (goes against internal policies) but there's an open issue to expose a value based off it (arenanet/api-cdi#32) but it's got some nasty technical issues that need to be worked around (e.g., the character id is basically used as a DHT key). The character creation date is mostly guaranteed to be unique (and immutable) within an account, so I think most people are using that.
For /v2/pvp/games, putting the team rosters (and builds) is pretty high on my todo list, but there's (as usual) nasty technical issues -- the game storage is currently stored 10x redundant (e.g., every account has a copy of every game in their match history -- so each match is duplicated for each player) so even with storing the latest 10 games there are issues adding a bunch of additional data to it (since the system is designed for the data to be entirely memory-resident)
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 18:55
@lye ah i know what you mean. thanks for that information
it would be enough for me, if there is a character-identifier, the rest of this data could be fetched through other api's, that was the plan. So there is no need to store the builds directly at the match data. But the team-roster should be stored there
(by the way: sookya here :) )
Yeah, that's true. I need to finish the pvp amulet bits and expose skills and stuff in /v2/characters, but that could work.
I'm pretty sure I won't have rosters working until the end of the season, unfortunately. I'm having a lot of trouble getting any changes made to the pvp stuff.
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 19:48
no problem. Just good to know that this feature would get deployed in the future
I mostly need it because I play both power and condi necro, and I want to see which one I have a better win rate on :/
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 19:54
:D
good point. i can think about a way to analyze this
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 19:55
Oh yeah, being able to make a per character breakdown would be great.
idivait
@idivait
Mar 04 2016 19:55
lol
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 19:56
per build <3
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 19:56
@lye does that imply that those nasty wvw power necs have been nerfed to death? :D
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 19:57
At one point I was 4:1 win ratio on condi necro
Not quite so good now though
nobody0705
@nobody0705
Mar 04 2016 19:58
I just got bad teams in the last matches... :(
soloq yeah!
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 19:58
or was it the condi nec, i don't remember anymore. but whaat i remember is that one particular nec build was a pain in the ass in wvw
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 19:58
wvw is probably power unless it was a roamer
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:00
we used to play a roaming build in a group of 15-20, consisting of a bunch hammer warrs/guards, 2-3 water ele 1-2 of those necs. and we used to take out zergs of 3 times our groups size in no time
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:01
I used to do a little solo roaming on condi necro. It was hilarious when thieves tried to kill me.
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:01
ah, thieves are nothing
a roaming spike thief tried to kill me the other day... i was on the was on the way to my team... as staff/water ele :D
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:02
solo roaming is a weird thing though, you're either fighting other solos which are more or less even fights, or you're picking off people in zerg builds that got separared (easy pickins).
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:03
and i had a lot of fun with that guy
well, we used to play as group, far off of zergs and we used to let roamers run unless they would attack us
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:05
I haven't done much small group stuff for a long time.
Certainly not since HoT
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:07
we did small group stuff in wvw too when we were bored
like... THE GRUB!
:D
hmm, i was looking for a completely different thing, but found these on my webserver instead
oh right, this was what i was looking for:
(the yellows downed that whole zerg and the greens arrived just when they were all dead :D we were so fast XD)
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 20:12
yellows?
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:12
and DL was like 10 ranks beyond us at that time
(yellows -> guild)
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 20:12
kk
thought you were colorblind
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:13
What tier were you in?
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:13
uhh, RoF was always pretty tail end
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:13
In NA at least it seems zerg busting groups can do well in lower tiers but not so much at the top.
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:14
but that was somehow intended - we were lucky to be one of the few servers with low influx
so we had build a strong WvW community and people of all ranks feared us :D
we were not many, but dedicated :D
and then one day my guild decided to move to a T3 server >.<
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:20
With the changes coming, it seems that all "servers" should be more or less even population wise.
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:20
it's not only about even population it seems
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:20
Will make things very different
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:21
by the last time i played, RoF had high population
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 20:21
population isn't really the determining factor
it's more coverage throughout the day
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 20:21
thats my server, RoF lost most of its big WvW guild
its a wasteland now :p
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:22
oh, we might have bumped into another i guess :D
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 20:22
You can have thousands of players, and if they all play during the 3-6 hours of primetime, and then the smaller server has players outside of primetime to easily take stuff back for the rest of those hours...
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:22
I just hope that for they involve the API team on the changes so that when they hit we have working end points for both match information and confirming people are on the right place for access to forums/voice comms
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:23
there's my character - you might remember the name in case you played more WvW ;) http://wiki-de.guildwars2.com/wiki/Benutzer:Smiley
and yes, i was in TaG, one of those guilds who left us :(
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 20:24
you were probably called "Someserver Somerank" to me ;)
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:24
lol
no
i'm on rof since beta day one
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 20:24
ah that makes more sense
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:24
and you might remember TaG
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 20:25
nuh, more of a fractal/raider :)
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:25
tehehe
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 20:25
occasional PvP/WvW
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:25
we used to play wvw most of the time
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 20:25
rank uhh 40ish PvP and 150 WvW or so
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:25
and spank teq when we were bored
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:26
My pvp rank ... 80 with 72 rollovers
About 1,700 WvW rank
I play a lot ...
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:26
dunno which wvw rank i am, like 300something
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 20:26
everyone has his fav area of this game I think :>
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:27
And 27.5k AP ...
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:27
oh and last time i logged in, i had ~250 bonus chests remaining XD
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:27
I have no life :)
Oh, you probably got hit by that bug that awarded loads of them
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:28
oh, @lye, idea! expose remaining bonuses per acc/char?
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:28
I had that too, but gone thought them all now
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:28
no, i'm pretty sure they were legally awarded :D
anyway, i'm also pretty sure they'll rot forever on my acc
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:29
Well, you only get new ones if you play during that match.
So to stockpile like that you need to play just a little but not enough to actually rank up and get them.
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:29
as i said: i played wvw. lots. :D
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 20:30
that slothasor is really happening :O
I was soo convinced it was some prank by the raid team
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:30
You didn't think it was real?
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 20:30
This stream is pretty good
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:31
Oh, I forgot about the stream
I'll catch it on youtube later
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 20:31
or just read it on the recap
<3 dulfy
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:31
She's great ... she's in my guild but never reps :(
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 20:32
lol
I have her on my friends list...so i can....stalk her?
talking about friends list
we need categories
so then I can have a ANET employee category, to see if I caught them all
it should be tied to an achievement or something
3/150
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 20:33
I hope that the slothasaur has the same effect pocket rapters had on me, they are sooo cute... and I'm dead wow
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 20:33
^^
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:35
@Coffee4cr not before there's and achievement for "Kill the Grub while being in a Omega Golem"
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 20:36
lol
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:36
(see above screen...)
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 20:40
Any new API stuff due today?
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 20:41
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Mar 04 2016 20:41
lol
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:08
this is what happens when other people agree to bring my sick ideas to life XD
(sorry for embed)
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 21:13
Ah, old LA
You do get to see bits of it every now and then with personal story missions
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:15
that invisible clipping on the vista spot was the best thing i've ever found XD
we had actually loads more fun before we started making the video where we got the idea to make one XD
so many dead players XD
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:37
i really hate to embed stuff all the time, so i'm going to kill the display links as code now :P
https://twitter.com/ThePracticalDev/status/705825638851149824

I just hope that for they involve the API team on the [WvW] changes

@Nabrok yup, developing in lockstep with the WvW changes so the API stuff should be ready day one. Unfortunately nothing's announced so I can't really talk what the changes are until some point in the future.

Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 21:45
nice! Thanks @lye.
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Mar 04 2016 21:45
nice :)
@codemasher yeah, remaining bonus chests makes sense, though realistically most people who WvW perpetually have 0 bonus chests remaining.
Since you pretty much get all of them opened on reset.
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 21:47
Yeah, I usually have them all a couple hours after reset
#242 anyway, since it'd probably be really easy to expose
I'm pretty much in meetings the rest of the day, but I need to add the skills stuff to the player blob reader so I'll probably toss that in too.
@Nabrok wait which guild? LOD?
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:48
@lye what about pve bonuses and stuff and remaining food buffs and such?
(I'm also in one of dulfy's guilds)
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 21:48
No, DIS
dang
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 21:49
She was more invovled with us before she joined AARM. Went into the EotM beta with us.
So, food buffs are a bit weird. I'm not sure there's a clean way to correlate back to the food (there certainly isn't necessarily a 1:1 mapping between food and buff)
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:50
well, it was just an idea, might be useful for the folks out there ;)
Actually, just determining which buffs are food buffs is kind of tricky (but not moreso than achievements, which have the same problem -- the bits in the player blob are meaningless without access to content which is stored on another server)
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:50
ah
Yeah def, having an audible alert when your food/stones get low would be nice.
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:51
like... i have still a birthday booster running on my wvw ele
from like... 2 years ago or so? XD
i mean, there's actually only 2 types of food-like buff, right? actual food from chefs and those things from weaponsmiths
if you could only expose if one of those types is running and the remaining time would be of great help
Hmm, I'm not sure how they're flagged as such, but there's definitely some flag that indicates the buff is food/utility because you can only have one at a time.
That's a really good point.
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:55
(you can see in the 3rd screen i posted earlier, that the team is running one particular food buff - if that could be visible)
http://chillerlan.de/gw2/gw338.jpg
Yeah, you could say I'm fairly familiar with wvw :P
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:56
so which one actually was it? :P
Which food buff?
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:56
yea :D
I ran melee, so back then was lemongrass poultry soup
Backline ran what? Seaweed salad?
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:57
no there was only one for us all the time - omnomberry
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LOL
rekt
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:57
oops
(key up = edit is annoying sometimes)
no, our build was super defensive, i wonder how we actually killed others :D
on NA during the golden era there wasn't as much tanking
anyway, I've got a meeting to run to etc
(back to back meetings)
rip friday
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 21:59
Full nomads was a popular build on BG for a while wasn't it?
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 21:59
well, we didn't tank much, we let the rams tank
(not the ram upstairs on that screen)
we ran full cleric :D
well, the warrs were pvt actually
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:01
Shout heal warrior was a thing
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:01
yea
hammers on guards and warrs
banish all the way through :D
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:02
hammer train was one of the first wvw metas
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:02
although i played ele most of the time, i think playing cleric/hammer guard was most fun of all
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:03
My 2nd or 3rd 80 (forget exact order) was a warrior because my guild wanted to build one up
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:04
my warr is one of my least played :D
not even 80
i played ranger for a while in wvw, which was fun too... with a greatsword and roots
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:05
I have so many tomes I'll never have to worry about leveling again.
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:05
i hear that a lot
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:05
Even after donating as many as I could to the guild hall
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:05
but wvw levelling is the only true way of levelling :P
my ele has still her level 3 quest
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:06
I did that with my engi, leveled up entirely in wvw.
ಠ_ಠ
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:06
wait no, i continued once to get the btlc key :D
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:06
Not even EotM either. Mostly just small group stuff.
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:07
oh @lye another idea (but amost sure that was mentioned before) umm, active quests?
like events? or story journal?
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:08
(and stop me talking more about gw2 if you want me to stop getting new ideas :D)
story journal
unlikely to stop talking about gw2 in this channel, at least
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:08
heh, fair
I've looked into exposing story journal a bit; at a glance it looked fairly hairy to expose
someone mentioned looking at how the actual story journal UI does it though, and I've yet to follow up on that
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:09
like... almost everything :D
just... ideas, y'know :D
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Mar 04 2016 22:10
CoR train best meta
;_;
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:11
but one thing i'm eagerly waiting for is the event details API, since i want to update my wvw tracker one day ;)
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Mar 04 2016 22:11
Asura rev master race go
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:11
*chua
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:11
I kinda think that the problems with CoR were exagerated
Of course I play a revenant
as a power necro getting hit for 9k crits from 1200 range
>:(
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:12
But if there's the slightest slope ...
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Mar 04 2016 22:12
One problem that was not exaggerated enough and is still a problem to this day
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:12
Does nothing
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Mar 04 2016 22:12
INCLINES
hill boss hardest world boss NA
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Mar 04 2016 22:12
I love how s// works
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Mar 04 2016 22:14
DOWNVOTE TO OBLIVION
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:14
oh wow, an AMA I'm not 5 hours late for
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Mar 04 2016 22:14
Wait colin did WHAT
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:15
Whose face is going to be on the hype train now??
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Mar 04 2016 22:15
@lye
That also is my primary concern
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Mar 04 2016 22:15
:wave: :cry:
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Mar 04 2016 22:18
... why are we against letting gitter auto-embed a tweet?
copy/pasting that link was way more annoying
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:18
(i just select -> right click open) i just don't wnat to add more bloat ^.^
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Mar 04 2016 22:19
I'd take big embeds over copy/pasting like I'm in lynx any day
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Mar 04 2016 22:19
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wait did we ever officially announce there's a second expansion
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 22:19
okay XD
because that post says there's a second expansion
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Mar 04 2016 22:20
I think we all assumed it, but I don't think anything official.
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Mar 04 2016 22:21
GW2:CoW
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 23:00
Second expansion was casually announced iirc
Also, Colin o.O
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Mar 04 2016 23:07
Yay season 3!
relic
@nukiebaba
Mar 04 2016 23:25
whitelisted 50053, should appear in ~5 minutes
this is Relyk btw. for Dynamic Tempered Spinal Blades (Infused), does it need to be whitelisted in the recipe API too? https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/recipes/search?output=50053 still comes up empty.
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@codemasher
Mar 04 2016 23:58
nope, since it's a MF recipe
oh, and hi relic :P