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Apr 2016
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 01:44

you mentioned the websocket a lot of times; and every time i thought it would be similar to a socket like teamspeak or something
even after reading all the browser stuff and everything it still didn't click and was asking myself "why would you even need SSL?"
almost at the end, it finally did; and i was, oooohhhhhhhhhhhh... that's WAY more awesome than i first imagined

derp

Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 02:44
@lye, I took the opportunity to check with Content-Security-Policy: connect-src ws://localhost, but my Chrome still blocks it when the page itself was loaded over HTTPS
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 03:14
Hmm... am I reading this correctly that about 1% of the Chrome users use the very same thing that you want to accomplish? https://www.chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/530
I'm not really that great with understanding all that stuff, but as far as I understand they want to restrict the pages loaded from the internet communicating to local/intranet servers even further than they are right now
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 09:20
TL;DR: websockets unpossible, stick with Mumble
(i read most of it. really)
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 09:21
I tend to really find those kind of answer unacceptable. Especially if the "solution" is to use the half-assed solution of Mumble.
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 09:26
you ever heard of irony?
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 09:27
Isn't that the thing you use to clean jackets ?
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 12:24
lol
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 12:39
You set up a guildwars2.com dyndns and letsencrypt the certificate through that. private key locally with trusted cert? hurr durr
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 12:45
German eID requires you to get the user to open http://127.0.0.1:24727. You can't nicely include that without them seeing a blank page, or, if they forgot to run the client or installed it wrong an error you can't catch
(not)
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 12:52
Hmm no that won't do, the domain would have to resolve to the user and be accessible there first for that to work...
lyesgw2api.com assigns the client a subdomain, letsencrypts the key, sets the subdomain to resolve 127.0.0.1 and gives the key/cert to the client on an on demand basis
what could possibly go wrong
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 12:57
Question, it's the client that pushes the data for mumble? why can't you just push your own data the way you want, in the same way the mumble data works?
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 12:58
I have another super-dumb idea : have a non-TLS websocket; connect a non-TLS iframe on it; have the iframe interact with his TLS parent through a Flash-powered LocalConnection bridge. Afaik, LocalConnection ignores all http/https or cross-connection issues.
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 12:58
kill flash with 🔥
@Coffee4cr you can't read memory mapped files from a website
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 12:59
@Coffee4cr > issue with not using WebSocket is that no webapp can connect to it. Only locally installed apps would be able to.
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 12:59
ah ok
but it would work for local stuff
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 13:00
@darthmaim hey, Flash is bad, but at least, it would work :p
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 13:00
well, if you are using a plugin to read the data, you could write one just for reading the gw2 data
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:02
webrtc data channel between client and browser?
you "only" need to handle signaling
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 13:06
May work if Chrome still has his localhost exception to WebRTC. I've not idea how hard it would be to implement.
That said, WebRTC isn't supported by IE/Edge.
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:10
actual signaling server, no localhost
Implement some kind of well supported message queue, open a port and let someone else figure it all out
Coffee4cr @Coffee4cr washes hands
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 13:15
do a contest to figure a way to make it work!
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 13:17
hmm. My personal issue with that is that we use a signaling server for data that could/should only transit on localhost. That seems strange.
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:17
well for signaling to work on localhost you would need a secure websocket there ;)
just use superfish/lenovo certificates :P
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 13:18
:D
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:19
easy, arenanet just buys relevant 0days to keep it working
reimplement gw2 in webgl
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 13:24
That said, using webrtc could allow for some interesting setups. For example, an companion app on smartphone that monitor the player's data live. Or easy shared data accross players of the same group/guild. As long as it's not data that could be abused to gain an advantage, it could be pretty cool.
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 13:24
hence why we need to make it work
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:25
the gw2 client creates a virtual microphone device that transmits the data as audio signals. the web app then requests access to that virtual microphone and.. uhm... uses magic to decode the data?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 13:26
Thats actually one of the only solutions that could work, the web audio api got really good over the last few years
:D
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 13:26
it could send morse code or binary
lol
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:26
getUserMedia seems to allow raw access, so..
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 13:27
Raw access ? we can have anything we want. Binary, String, JSON data, frames... as long as a common structure is defined, we're good.
If it can work, it may be easier on our (the 3rd party) side to setup, rather than websockets.
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:30
I need to stop thinking about this or we'll end up with avian carriers
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 13:32
real time data... with a slight delay
:P
:bird:
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 13:34
tbh, even data with a 10s delay is enough for many new kind of apps.
and webrtc's usualy delay is far less than that.
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:35
@lye 's gonna have a lot of fun if he tried to read back up I assume
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 13:36
yeah. may be easier for him (her ?) to ask and get a summary by one of the people that participated.
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 13:37
someone write the TL;DR
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:37
good luck poor person
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 13:38
btw : yes, my idea of this morning (posted on reddit) was dumb. I shouldn't say what goes through my mind so soon after waking up.
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:39
here's another one: let the user enter a webrtc server the game tries to connect to
nothing bad would ever come from this
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 13:40
[uninformed speculation] couldn't a global server using api keys as auth be better ?
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:41
let apps directly connect to the relevant game server!
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 13:42
Oh f*ck no.
We get enough connection issues on those already. I don't think they'd like any more.
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:44
you notice a trend in my suggestions I hope :P
websocket, not webrtc
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:49
that cyber thing.
I guess I like the getUserMedia virtual microphone device best because it's so stupid that it could actually come around and work
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 13:56
Well, you know that WebRTC has raw dataChannels, right ? You wouldn't really need a virtual microphone for that.
(That said, I have in the past inserted data custom trames within a RTMP Stream so that a ppt presentation was shown in sync with the video)
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 13:57

:point_up: 19. April 2016 15:37

did that already, may add zeeZ's morse code solution as it's the currently most obvious one :P

Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:58
but you need signaling in order to set up webrtc datachannels
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 13:58
heh, fair
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 13:59
which a webapp couldn't do locally again
the initial problem was that a secure webapp can't connect to the game's websocket because it's not secure
IIRC :D
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 14:00
yep
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 14:00
Could it use a self-signed cert?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 14:00
nope
the browser needs a valid one
but you can get a valid one for localgw2api.com and add A entry to 127.0.0.1
problem with that is, you need to distribute the private key with the gw2 client
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 19 2016 14:01
well in theory it is possible to distribute a keypair with the client (see a comment by @lye), but well, whats the point in SSL if your keys are publicly known (or well, can be extracted from the client anyway)
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 14:03
hence my idea was lvesgw2api.com abuses letsencrypt to get a key/cert for a subdomain, then after A that subdomain to localhost and hand the key/cert to the client
which... is not all that much better
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 14:04
you don't even need to "abuse" letsencrypt
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 19 2016 14:04
the CF-style stuff that was linked might be a more elegant solution
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 14:10
the flash thing?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 14:13
no
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 14:13

Cool, I just saw that gw2efficiency has a Find a random achievement for me to do! option; what is my first result?
WvW Premier Season: 6th Place

rip

Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 14:13
ah, cloudflare
look for server.crt and server.key next to gw2.dat and have to user figure it out :P
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 14:15
hmm, it gave me daily wvw caravan disruptor, but pretty sure I did that last night.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 14:16
Next one: Slippery Slubling
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 14:16
it told me to get a "progression" api key, so that'd be an achievement
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 14:17
gw2efficiency is not making it easy for me
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 14:17
"No Shocks Here"
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 14:18
Plasma Weapon Collection... BL skins that I haven't even started... okay well, nvm that randomness XD
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 14:18
darthmaim committed 2 minutes ago: add random achievement route
:P
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 14:18
Wait ... there's two hidden achievements in SAB world 2?
Oh it says world 3.
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 14:19
"Baby's Second Super Adventure"... this link trolls people.
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 14:20
Is the "genie of the box" in the robber part after you beat the world 2 boss?
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 14:21
yes
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 14:21
They were not reintroduced this year :(
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 14:22
Ah, so it's not possible right now?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 14:22
Nope, you can only get them in the introduction area of world 3 zone 1
Which is the genie
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 14:23
I'm curious about the metrics for SAB this year. If it was more or less popular than they expected. Seems like it was very popular.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 14:26
I want tribulation mode death metrics as a heatmap
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 14:40
That would be so fun. a heatmap of death on overlay to the map's map.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 16:04
patch hype!
forum is dead for me though
has there been a thought at arenanet to move the patch notes on the website itself instead of the forums?
every time when there's a patch, the forums are not responding :P
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 16:12
oh, I have a strange shaky above my map
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 16:12
?
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 16:12
it's a straight to level 80 item
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 16:13
With this quarterly update, we’re giving all existing and new Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns purchasers a max-level character boost, so you can immediately get one of your characters to the new jungle and Living World content.
This new max-level boost item will be delivered to you in a new, free shared inventory slot, which is yours to keep even after you use the character boost.
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 16:14
Nice, 6 shared slots
I wish those notes would load for me
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 16:14
can we also move those slots to the bottom of the inventory? please? :D
well... the forums homepage loaded for me... now to actually get to the thread
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 16:15
I clicked the link on reddit, which apparently is an incorrect link
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 16:16
same :P
oh, according to the dev tracker, there are no patch notes on the forums.. did they get removed?
also, moto is still yelling that SAB is back for our amusement :P
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 16:20
people are quoting them from somewhere
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 16:21
There's a blog post, and ofc players ingame digging through the game to find as much as possible.
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 16:21
ha
Bug on dungeon frequnter achievement
It says you can get 4 billion AP from it
but at the same time, none
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 16:22
wha ? there's already someone with Chuja & champawat
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 16:23
It looks like you have to do 8 different paths, not just CoF P1 8 times.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 19 2016 16:32
ingame dps meter hype
:p
that new special forces training area

@codemasher

websockets unpossible, stick with Mumble

even if my dream is unpossible, websockets are still a better protocol if we have to require a local native app anyway

smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 16:40
i don't doubt this ;)
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Apr 19 2016 16:40
ugh mumble
actually webrtc isn't a bad thing to look into
I hate webrtc and need to re-read the spec but it might actually be usable for this
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 16:41
would be cool!
also I looked in whether we could distribute a private key/cert with the client
we can't -- it breaks the CA requirements (there's a requirement that they revoke any certs whose keys are publicly known)
the only way we can use websockets is if (A) we require consumer pages to not use HTTPS or (B) we use CF-style keyless TLS (e.g., we stand up an TLS challenge oracle that holds the key rather than distributing it).
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 16:44
...and both options are rather suboptimal
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 16:45
well, in a world with unlimited dev resources (B) would work :P
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 16:45
heh
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 17:25
it doesn't seem like the scribing changes are in the API yet
the content server isn't restarted yet afaik
it takes like an hour to patch sometimes -_-
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 17:26
ah, ok
Aralicia
@Aralicia
Apr 19 2016 17:27
I'll have to remake a pass on the lists to add the new items&recipes (I'm maintaining a name <=> id table in one of my project)
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 17:28
so how is backend support for /v2/pets, buff icons for /v2/items, /v2/itemstats, stat selection for inventories and weapon skills for /v2/professions looking?
(did I forget anything we were waiting on backend support for?)
i think those are all in now
i'm fixing a live server crash right now
(/v1/event_names.json is disabled for today)
we changed the deploy process for the content server since last time it leaked some goodies before the patch went out
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 17:30
good luck :P
having the old content server running while the new patch is out has triggered some interesting bugs
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 17:31
I am guessing the last leak were the sab achievements?
yep
☑ fixed
☐ not fixed
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 17:32
☑ :fire: :fire:
☐ :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire:
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 17:43
You could use websockets if you connected to someone else's server :P
Luckily there's still the microphone idea, right? Right?
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 17:47
lmao
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 17:51
If you ever see a paper about this..
just a heads up: probably not turning on any new endpoints until tomorrow
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 18:07
:+1:
Also, arenanet/api-cdi#286
let me know if all_worlds should always be present
the current implementation currently omits it if there are no active merges, mostly so it didn't show up in the API before the feature was announced; thinking about just always exposing it
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 18:16
can't hurt to always include it
I don't know if this is something we're just trying out or going to use forever
it's listed as beta in the release notes
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 18:18

Heart of Thorns Dailies: Specific dailies for Heart of Thorns will only appear in a player’s rotation if they own the expansion

guess the daily endpoint needs adjustments for this (flag if the daily requires HoT?)

hmm crap, I need to look into how that works
I suspect those aren't daily-dailies
(similar to how fractal "dailies" work)
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 18:19
the next sentence is "The following dailies have a chance to replace similar dailies currently in the rotation:"
oof
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 18:20
if they replace the other ones, its probably a little bit more complicated
okay, so that's gonna be broken until the next patch
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 18:20
I'm a little annoyed the gathering dailies might be in HoT areas ... there's no home instance there!

rekt

there's a guild hall though
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 18:21
Although verdant brink gatherer won't be a problem
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 18:21
also the daily completionist (https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/achievements/1840) has now 2G as reward
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 18:21
That's true
@darthmaim it's probably in the chest
also live content servers are still patching
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 18:22
ah, maybe
unless they changed achievements, it's only possible for them to award a single item
and iirc there's no field for coins
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 18:24
I think the hall nodes max out at three gathers though, so it won't be quite enough by itself.
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 18:24
speaking of fractal dailies, https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/achievements/categories/88 only returns 1 achievement
thats probably wrong
didn't they change a bunch of fractal achievements or something
they're probably sitting in the whitelist
(or, the new ones are)
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 18:25
the daily fractal achievements have changed greatly
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 18:25
#fixitlye
"working on it"
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 18:25
:P
literally sitting here waiting for my local content server to patch
and for the live content server to patch
not sure why these are so slow
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 18:26
better slow than not working
arguably, they're not really working if they're not patched
not sure how the API hasn't fallen over yet
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 18:26
Bronze Vale Guardian Trophy doesn't seem to be white listed (Gold and Silver are though)
@Nabrok create an issue for that one; I won't be able to get to it today and will probably forget
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 18:27
ok
thanks <3
oh I'm just dumb, the live content servers are patched up
i just was looking at the wrong thing; I should get more coffee
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 18:46
I like how @lye learns about all the stuff he needs to fix at the same time as us
lot of people working on a lot of things; it's hard to keep track of it all
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 18:51
@Coffee4cr a job where you don't have to learn for the next thing you do is boring, isn't it?
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 18:51
@Coffee4cr We don't know about all the stuff he fixes before we know about it ;)
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 18:52
(tbh, back in highschool i never thought i'd say that one day...)
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 19:03
lol
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 19:38
daily_completionist.png
so the achievement really has 2G as reward
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 19:39
that's pretty awesome
add to that the re-added rewards to dungeons
will we see price inflation on the market?
more money coming in, people selling at higher price
BUY ALL THE THINGS
what
calling hacks
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 19:40
guess you just got some more work :D
oh crap
fml
there totally is a coins field
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 19:44
uhh, that one which otherwise rewards 1 copper when there's no coin reward?
okay, added the coins field in; that'll go out for the next release
super easy fix
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 19:52
:+1:
let's see, bronze vale guardian trophy
whitelisted item 77731, which should be the bronze VG trophy
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 19:54
thanks. I didn't even get to that ticket yet!
:>
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 19:58
I wish I could yell "OK GOOGLE, GW2 2FA CODE" and my phone somewhere in the room would tell me the code. My lazyness is not fully supported yet
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 19:59
get authy (chrome and android)
I hope your friends shout "OK GOOGLE, CALL MOM" at you
sorry I hate those features on phones
and also I'm not a good person
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 20:00
better yet, run through the city shouting "OK GOOGLE, SET ALARM TO 4AM"
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 20:00
They learn and keep getting pickier at voices
Oh god that preview is huge
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 20:01
not on my screen
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 20:02
it is here
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 20:02
first time my wife used "ok google":
Her: "ok google set alarm for ..."
phone: "setting alarm ..."
Her to me: "I just used ok google!"
(phone activates again)
"How do I turn it off!"
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:06
:point_up: April 19, 2016 9:59 PM pretty much sums me up :D
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 20:08
I
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:08
@Nabrok i'm quite sure that's how a non-tech-savvy friend of mine perhaps set an alarm at some point in the middle of the night, and he couldn't turn it off
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 20:08
I'm actually just impressed that ok google understands my accent most of the time
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:09
so alarm went off each night until he got a new phone XD
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 20:09
My most common use case is someone is spamming me with messages while I'm stuck in traffic, so I get to yell "OK GOOGLE SEND A MESSAGE TO xyz" followed by profanity and my ETA without ever looking away from traffic
The suspense is amazing when I arrive and get to check what was actually sent
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:09
haha
it was the first thin i turned off on all my devices
i HATE it
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 20:10
I played Tom Clancy's End War for a while, which had the gimick that you gave your units voice commands
That one had a hard time with my accent
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 19 2016 20:10
I really enjoyed End War
:D
and even with my French Canadian Accent it understood me
95% of the time
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 20:11
I have a sort-of scottish accent
I'm from there but been in the US 20 years
So my accent is neither here nor there.
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 20:13
FinFin, that weird dolphin thing was my first contact with gimmicky voice commands
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:13
scottish like Shirley Manson? (whose accent is really harsh :D)
ha, now i got it (the edit feature is the best thing here)
Christian
@zeeZ
Apr 19 2016 20:15
I tried using it once, then the option was grayed out
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 20:15
Yeah, she's from the same part of Scotland so probably a similar accent
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:16
ahh, just wondered how you'd develop a scottich accent
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 20:17
I grew up there, moved to the US when I was 22.
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:17
ok, now it makes sense :D
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 20:18
I go back every couple years and people think I talk funny.
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@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:18
(i don't know why, but i like the scottish accent... XD)
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 20:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tBkM_YQ5UU - I say a few things in this video (from one of the stronghold betas)
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@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:32
fun fact: most of the british/scottish accents are harder to understand for me as non-native english speaker than perhaps any american
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 20:33
I would imagine you mostly hear american accents through TV/movies and less british TV/movies?
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@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:34
no, not exclusively, i'm aware there's more than "bubblegum english" :D
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Apr 19 2016 20:34
But a lot of british accents are difficult to understand ... even for british people!
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@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:35
i've recently started listening to bbc's local stations - and it's kinda mindblowing :D like "bbc introducing in essex"
is it only for me or is that a general bug, that the tweet doesn't get displayed in it's entirety?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 20:55
its a bug, you even reported it already :P
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@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:55
(max-height...? may check but too lazy...)
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 19 2016 20:56
but thomasfuchs tweet, so nothing of value was lost...
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@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 20:56
i know that i've reported it. well, i didn't report, just tweet :P
i love how you all hate him - do you know where the web would be without him?
good news for those who run ele/necro builds
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@codemasher
Apr 19 2016 21:59
ele/necro? did i miss secondary professions with HoT? :D
I dunno; I should probably detect and remove cross-profession traits
i really don't get how they happen in the first place :confused:
(that build is glorious! props to whoever made it :D)
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 19 2016 22:23
would be glorious right, being able to have specialisations cross profession
imagine engineer with ele's fire traitline :D