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5th
May 2016
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 13:28
woot! scoring has won the poll :D
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
May 05 2016 13:28
yes!
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 13:28
i wonder if the next wvw poll will be the same as the previous one with 2 options (+ no preference), or will it be something different...
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
May 05 2016 13:28
you saw the leak WvW doc from like a month or so ago?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 13:28
yeah
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
May 05 2016 13:29
I hope they go that way for the scoring
on a time/tiering system
for score
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 13:30
it sounded like a great idea theoretically, i have no clue how it will work out if they push it to the live servers
but i think no one does
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
May 05 2016 13:32
well pretty much everything from that doc came true
so i'm guessing it's going to be something similar
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 13:32
we'll have to wait and see; if scoring will be done right, then it will eventually mean that population imbalance doesn't really matter that much anymore
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
May 05 2016 13:32
and that we can start tournament
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 13:32
at least, not as much as it does now
i hope so, wvw needs it
Christian
@zeeZ
May 05 2016 16:40
copy code from SO?! Nobody does that!
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 17:45
But I always copy code from SO that I don't understand, otherwise I would've thought of it myself!
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
May 05 2016 17:46
lol
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 17:49

@lye, just saw this on reddit, decided to check the items 39232 and 39252 on the api
quite interesting, especially the infix_upgrades with the buff skills 15742 and 15755 since they don't exist

they are linked to the skills endpoint right?

yeah, the infix_upgrade buff ids are /v2/skills technically
but /v2/skills is currently limited to only things you can unlock from professions
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 17:50
ah okay, if it's limited it explains the {text: "no such id"} then
when was that infused item in the game anyway?
I would guess a bugged mystic forge recipe or something
not really sure what's up with that particular item
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 17:53
you can extend it to Althea's Ashes too: 39233 and 39253
actually didn't we change infused items at one point to have an agony infusion slot rather than an implicit +5?
maybe we missed a few or something
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 17:54
i think so, but only rings could be infused at that point right?
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 17:54
rings and back items
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 17:55
but no accessories?
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 17:55
right
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 17:56
i suppose it doesn't give any AR anyway since it's not in the tooltip and not in the attributes in the api; it's listed in the description of the buff though
the API attributes are just the tooltip usually
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 17:56
figured as much, where does the description of the buff come from then? since it's different
the actual script behavior is totally different data annoyingly enough
the buff description is the tooltip you'd see if the buff were visible on your buffbar
it's kind of complicated and i'm pre-coffee
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 17:58
wow, i think i'm glad those buffs are hidden then; imagine if all those buffs show up :worried:
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 17:58
I gave up coffee
all transient per-character state is stored in buffs
you have a lot of them
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
May 05 2016 17:59

I gave up coffee

:point_up: That's like giving up on life...

anyway, looked it up in the content editor, that infusd Althea's Ashes does not confer any agony resist
it just says it does in the tooltip
(the tooltip of the buff which is invisible in-game iirc, unless it's displayed in the item tooltip which it might be)
(iirc the bonus stats are just added to the base stats)
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 18:03
I sent the chat link to myself, it doesn't say anything about agony resistance
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:03
hmm, so there might have been plans for infused accessories a long time ago, but never got fully implemented in the game?
beats me :/
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:04
despite that the items do exist
afaik you can only infuse rings and maybe backpieces
I have like 30 AR so yeah
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 18:04
Probably prior to the new infusion system
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:04
doesn't explain how that person got an infused accessory though
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 18:04
Which is really hard to explain to people by the way
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:04
quite a prestige item :D
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 18:04
Yeah you get these +1 infusions, but they're no good to you right now, get these +5 infusions from the vendor instead ...
Two different things with the same name
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:05
i can't remember how it worked back then when infused items gave a +5 by default, never infused anything because fractal levels were character bound
yeah but the +5 infusions cost relics which I don't have
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 18:06
The regular slots were the same as they are now, but the infused versions just gave an inate +5. They changed that to a slot that I believe could potentially be infinite.
might as well infuse a ring and buy a +10 or something
I think it caps at like +50 or something
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:06
well, there are people working on improving the infusions iirc, let's hope it won't be as confusing as it is right now
because to make that you'd need more gold than exists in the economy
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 18:07
Right, practically it's not infinite.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:07
haha
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 18:08
I think it was a good solution to get past the 70 AR limit you have with only versatiles, but a different name would make things much easier to explain.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:09
2^(n-1)-1 reagents is annoying
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 18:09
Super Infusions!
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:10
a +30 will cost you 8031588g for only the reagents...
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 18:10
I'll get two then :)
Christian
@zeeZ
May 05 2016 18:10
there's probably someone out there who can afford it
man a +10 is only like 11g
I should just buy some of those
get my AR up to something reasonable
Christian
@zeeZ
May 05 2016 18:11
no need for AR
git gud, don't get hit
:P
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:11
i have 143 AR for my warrior atm :D
something something mai trin daily
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:11
something something get hit by agony on entering the boss area
1 tick = ded
though I've done like 68 swamps or whatever the level is
aegis OP
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 18:13
I got up to level 42 before they changed the scaling system, but after that most of the people I did the high level stuff with had quit, so I was only doing low level stuff. Didn't get to 50 until I was working on the achievements before they were removed.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:13
question, why is Agony Resistance not in the attributes section? https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/items/49445
IIRC AR wasn't an attribute at some point
(I think it is now?)
Neither was boon duration/magic find/condition duration
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:14
it is listed in the hero panel
So there's some interesting legacy encodings
Right, but at one point it wasn't a real attribute.
Christian
@zeeZ
May 05 2016 18:15
or this "ferocity" thing
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:15
but i suppose it's calculated from the hidden buff skills? :P
Something likethat.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:15
+22 has skill 22121, +21 has skill 22120 :P
Pretty sure AR is a real attribute these days though
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 18:15
Do you think they'll ever unify some of that stuff? For example changing doubloons to have concentration instead of straight boon duration %?
I have no insight into the development of the game
how is this +28 available on the api
but +23 - +27 are not?
https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/items/49453 is the last that's giving the no such id error, so i suppose there are 30 coded in the game? unless they've added more at some point
@Archomeda just looked up the +28
A GM mailed it to themself
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:18
-.-
Christian
@zeeZ
May 05 2016 18:18
GM hax
power abuse!
That's the only one that exists in-game
I'm not sure why they'd bother to spawn one :shrug:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:20
lol
well like it doesn't have a cosmetic effect
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:20
maybe he needed to join a fractal instance but he didn't have the AR?
I thought you just got a warning but it let you through anyway?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:21
it does
I dunno.
Nabrok
@Nabrok
May 05 2016 18:21
group might kick you
but yeah
risky move
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:21
i don't think GM accounts are supposed to be played on? or do they?
I have no idea actually
Christian
@zeeZ
May 05 2016 18:22
maybe GM hax don't work on agony
they totally do
Christian
@zeeZ
May 05 2016 18:22
guilty!
hah, I only have GM access on my local server
i'm not gonna lie I love these
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:25
lol
TIL pressing shift enter in the wiki search box opens a new window...
but why a new window instead of a tab? -_-
darthmaim
@darthmaim
May 05 2016 18:28
CTRL click the button
Archomeda
@Archomeda
May 05 2016 18:29
who clicks a button?
and ctrl enter doesn't work :(
darthmaim
@darthmaim
May 05 2016 18:29
I know :(