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14th
Dec 2016
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:02
oh come on
Ascended League Vendor
"That content has been temporarily disabled. Please try again later."
/sigh
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:15
there are more items not blessed
wait... wtf is this [&AgFxOAEA]
Giver's Wrapped Shield
it's literally a shield wrapped as a present lol
right now i'm just skimming through the chat codes
just went through the whitelist
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:32
items only get on your approval list when players acquire them right?
yep
or when they're spawned in
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:33
pls spawn in item 79991 for me :3
[&AgF3OAEA]
/createitem 79991
/wipe inventory
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:33
lol
/point @Archomeda
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:34
LOL. That item.
I'm kinda surprised the AP debate didnt happen before it shipped though.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:34
it's presumably the consumable version for the pvp title
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:34
It is. You can see as much from the rewards tab.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:35
so my best guess is that those titles are getting distributed through mail at the end of the season
wait how do you know about that item
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:35
trial and error by linking ingame
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:35
Lye. PvP UI->Rewards->Leaderboard.
ah lol
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:35
80009 [&AgGJOAEA] - Legendary Demigod
does it not just give a title
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:35
Also ap.
I don't see a description string on it
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:36
oh wait indeed
they are on the pvp league panel as well
but wtf... please explain this shield:
79985 [&AgFxOAEA] - Giver's Wrapped Shield
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:37
AP is exposed via Achivements->PvP Conqueror.
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Dec 14 2016 00:38
clouded fate npc is back then?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:38
oh wait, it's in that_shaman's post as well
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:39
As much as I'd like to know about the wrapped stuff, prodding for datamined tidbits is bad mkay? =)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:39
hahaha XD
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:40
Fixed the Ardent Skins in the new build. Didnt re-enable the vendor twiddles
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:40
i normally don't do this i swear
that's probably because people are still in the old build
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:40
Isnt the PvP area a pretty fast force to new build?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:40
pvp matches? sure
hotm? nope
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:41
Doesnt invalidate your pending queues on a build?
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:41
PODRACING!
Now I just want to leyline race in someones cleared raid-escort... See what you've done!
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:42
lol nice @lye
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:42
Hey. Actually. Wrapped skins are safe! They're not hidden in the wardrobe! cackle
(decay is in there too once you get some)
(don't judge my rating please)
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:42
Can I judge you and find it awesome?
can't stop ya
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:43
oohh... also previous seasons? :O
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:43
./has an esports player he played with for awhile because of academy gaming on his contact list. Wrecks my 'friends' leaderboard.
@Archomeda it's been there for awhile :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:43
i... did not notice it
but the rating didn't exist back then
so that field (and decay) are only set for season 5 data
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:44
also, rip layout on the gw2e pvp page @queicherius
the pips are overflowing!
are they sorted by any chance?
since i'm just viewing the raw json i can't tell what a season is by id XD
lol
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:45
also, it is not
i can tell by the divisions i reached
A54849B7-7DBD-4958-91EF-72E18CD659BA is season 5
i'm not entirely sure why that UI broke
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:46
on gw2e?
too many pips :P
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:47
GW2E expects a specific number of pips. ;)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:47
looking at /v2/pvp/seasons?ids=all... why is the order season 2, 3, 4, 5, 1? D:
fair. The number of pips is in /v2/pvp/seasons so I was wondering if I broke something
@Archomeda Object.keys({}) ordering is undefined
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:48
bleh
(for non-empty objects)
I can sort them alphabetically if you want :D
but the whitelist is in the JSON config as an object
open an issue and I can fix it tomorrow for ya
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:48
sorting by start or end date might make more sense
actually damn that's a good idea
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:49
personally i'm not using that endpoint except for viewing it raw now :)
wait @lye
season 4 does have rating and decay for me
umm
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:51
  {
    "current": {
      "total_points": 37,
      "division": 2,
      "tier": 0,
      "points": 2,
      "repeats": 0,
      "rating": 1296,
      "decay": 700
    },
    "best": {
      "total_points": 38,
      "division": 2,
      "tier": 0,
      "points": 3,
      "repeats": 0
    },
    "season_id": "2B2E80D3-0A74-424F-B0EA-E221500B323C"
  },
oops
I'll fix that tomorrow too
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:52
your fault? :P
yeah
I thought that data wasn't emitted
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:52
1296 rating... omg i'm so bad lol
https://www.gw2pvp.de/web/ gonna need some adjustment on the pip UI as well, dang
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:53
so you just assumed that season 1 - 4 didn't track rating/decay?
also my account didn't have the values for any of them
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:53
We knew it did. Probably didnt think it'd retroactively expose.
so I thought it was a safe assumption
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:53
Now that we get to see it.
I guess I didn't play enough matches :<
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:53
i don't see a season 4 on your key
I have 1 and 3 I think?
I wasn't here for season 4, did they add it then?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:54
i don't know
maybe backend support?
maybe
oh well maybe I'll just leave it in
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:54
2 I think had a hard reset.
Cant hurt to know if we improved
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:54
i mean, season 1 - 3 don't have these values for me
not like it's publicly exposed or anything, and those seasons are over anyway
theoretically someone with your API key could compute your MMR already
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:55
what's the average rating that you're calculating from?
1500?
not a clue
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:55
hm
I think it's on the wiki?
maybe that's totally outdated
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:55
It probably is. that was always Josh Davis' thing.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:56
well, the rating is now exposed in the pvp panel... so it probably is
i think the general go to is 1000
at least, that's what i expected from the guild team rankings
but holy shit i like the new leaderboard system ingame
then of course there's still https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com
only for wvw and pve atm :D
well, AP rather
the wvw rankings are exposed on the api already
is the AP leaderboard also getting exposed at some point?
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 00:59
technically the data is mostly available, but achivement panel math magic =/
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 00:59
at that point you can update that leaderboard subdomain to the api system as well (if anyone at anet actually still cares about these leaderboards pages :P)
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 01:00
Personal leaderboard though. Shows me friends ratings... ; It'd be cool to have some way to pull that with the API. See who's going up and down
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 01:00
hmm, sounds nice
it's just that there are no restrictions on friends i think
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 01:01
It's exposed in game-UI, but from an API (opt-in) standpoint it gets weird. Its other peoples data. but its only their data relative to mine.
Yeah. It gets weird.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 01:01
i mean, you can add a friend, and it shows the data without being mutually befriended? i don't know
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 01:01
But there's nothing that stops me from doing the very same thing in game.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 01:01
but if it is, i don't think @lye will expose friends data
yeah that's true
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 01:02
There's some stuff that only shows on mutual, but this isnt one of those things.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 01:02
but we also have the guild member list that is exposed ingame, but on the api only for guild leaders
AP leaderboard should probably be exposed at some point, as well as WvW world MMRs
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 01:03
technically, if the api exposes friends data that's also exposed ingame, a site like gw2e can figure out data from more people than only the ones that have given their api key
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 01:03
Guilds are opt-in. Contacts Arent. ; Which is why we'll never get online state
IIRC those are stored in a legacy system currently, but if/when those migrate we're gonna try to kill the legacy bits
@rwfrk_twitter online state might happen, but not for friends/guildies
only for the account's API key
probably won't do friend's leaderboard positions since that gets a bit weird
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 01:05
how many things are still in the legacy system?
rough estimation or so
or relative to the new one if you aren't allowed to say it :P
I think just WvW MMR and AP
since those are a little wonky
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 01:08
Placement matches so painful.
yeah they are lol
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 01:10
Oh huh... just that? I expected more actually
I still have to do my placement matches
I'm not convinced if i should wait or not
yolo
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 01:12
Lol
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 01:12
With the new systemi t shouldnt really matter much
At least in theory.
The real question is. Wait til you can duo with someone or not
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 01:16
hmm, also a good one
also, omg the mini festive aurene......
IT HAS CHRISTMAS LIGHTS ON ITS TAIL
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 01:25
"Wintersday Means MORE WORK!"
I want to learn /finish achivements for a new ranked class this season, but I'm afraid of getting stuck in ELO hell
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 01:41
i'm certain i was stuck in elo hell last season
heck, i almost believe i'm stuck in elo hell in every competitive game ;-;
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 01:51
WTB Cat achivement so I can figure out what I'm missing. jsut keep adding ???s to keep it from completing
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 01:53
:+1:
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 01:58
[&AgGWOAEA] - needs blessed =)
Michael Dougall
@madou
Dec 14 2016 03:31
nvm ;)
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 04:09
4v5 in my placement match for >100pts.
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 14 2016 12:35
wow, that were more messages in the last 12 hours than in the past few months... :O
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Dec 14 2016 14:17
There's no way to pull a list of who was in a specific pvp match right?
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Dec 14 2016 14:18
not yet, afaik
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Dec 14 2016 15:58
If you have pvp keys for all the players you want to check for they will have the same match id in their game history.
Of course history is only the last 10, so you'd need to query and archive that quite regularly.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 16:35
welp... someone mentioned some time ago that a mystic coin would literally cost a golden coin... well it has happened
:sob:
smiley
@codemasher
Dec 14 2016 16:37

wow, that were more messages in the last 12 hours than in the past few months... :O

[x] vote for api-cdi-chat (or a similar spam channel)

Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Dec 14 2016 18:21
:point_up_2: but then no one would talk here
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 14 2016 18:21
I wasn't complaining btw :D
smiley
@codemasher
Dec 14 2016 18:22
@Coffee4cr quality > quantity
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 14 2016 18:22
but after all those months without @lye its nice to see some activity in here again
:>
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:27
what are you talking about @codemasher, clearly quantity is better than quality
keeps everyone awake :laughing:
smiley
@codemasher
Dec 14 2016 18:28
kids these days™
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:30
tbh, when nothing is on :fire:, this chat is basically dead otherwise
unless there's some discussion happening ofc
but it was patch day... so @lye wasn't even working, except for the occasional item blessings
lye @lye coughs
I needed to verify that the uhh
pvp leaderboards were working on live
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:32
ah right, that too! :)
i wonder if the ascended pvp weapons do have infusion slots
apparently the armors don't have it for some reason
what's an item that has a delete warning but isn't exotic?
ah ick
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:37
saw some reddit post about it, haven't bothered to get it from my mail myself yet
good thing I tested this because that flag isn't set on that
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:38
otherwise, the gemstore tools definitely have the type the name to confirm deletion warning
I don't understand why the warning pops up for that item though
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:39
Gw2-64_2016-12-14_19-39-14.png
i don't know either
what about the copper-fed salvage-o-matic, and the permanent gathering tools?
they're gemstore items
lol
well, orphan laine's letter is also a gemstore item
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:43
wat
it's sent through mail... is that considered a gem store item?
no
the item has a flag on it
the name of the flag is "gem store"
that's all I know :<
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:44
rofl
punish the person who set the flags :P
...
there are no code references to the "show salvage warning" flag
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:47
when did we start talking about salvage warning flags? i thought it was about deletion?
Archomeda @Archomeda is confused
I thought they were the same thing, I guess not
salvage warning is probably legacy or something
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:48
oh hm
salvage is rare +
it used to be masterwork +
a long time ago
I don't remember that at launch
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Dec 14 2016 18:50
Any idea if a recent firefox update changed the way it prints JSON files, or if the gw2 api now has returns in it..
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 14 2016 18:50
the api does that now
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Dec 14 2016 18:51
right. It makes reading the raw a load easier, so thanks :<
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:51
i'm looking for the patch that changed the salvage warning from masterwork+ to rare+
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 14 2016 18:51
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:53
i can only find the patch where luck was introduced
possibly it got changed at or around that time
anyway, i think that the salvage confirmation dialogs are hardcoded to rarity
and the delete confirmation dialogs are set with a flag or item type?
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Dec 14 2016 18:55
I wish they'd change the rarity on anything like bloodstone rubies to below the minimum salvage warning tier..
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 18:57
they have a warning too?
yeah
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:00
oh, in case you want an exotic / ascended quality item that doesn't have a type to confirm delete popup...
79744 and 79633
I think it's only the gemstore flag that prompts the confirm deletion
not the rarity like I originally thought
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:01
ehm
my legendary backpack also prompts for one
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Dec 14 2016 19:02
so they used the same flag internally everywhere?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 14 2016 19:02
someone try to delete your legendary :>
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:02
not sure if it's because of the skin though, since the skin is a gemstore skin
shouldn't be the skin
double-checking the code now
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:03
[&AgGiLgGAXBsAAA==] is my chat code for it
pvp backpiece: 77474
yeah okay, legendary items need confirmation too
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:04
i'm trying to think of some odd items now
there's one other condition that it'll pop up and I'm not sure what this is
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:04
the ley-energy matter converter also prompts
73718
anything you can buy once looks like
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:05
this one is an achievement reward
which i guess functions the same as "buy once"
black lion chests also have a prompt
the keys too, but i specifically mean the chests themselves :P
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 14 2016 19:06
those are probably gemstore too
ley-energy matter converter is flagged gemstore
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:06
what about the junk item eaters? like mawdrey? also gemstore?
keys and chests are flagged gemstore too
checking
mawdrey is gemstore
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:07
pact crowbars?
pretty sure everything that prompts the delete prompt is gemstore
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:08
oddly enough those have a prompt, while the other hot map items don't have one
hmm, those have the purchase limit
crap
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:08
i'm just going through my bank right now
purchase limit? wat
I think it's tied to a vendor that sells them
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:09
yeah... but the other items like chak acid is also sold by a vendor
okay, nothing references that purchases limit; it's just a counter that doesn't appear used :confused:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:10
where can you even buy the pact crowbars?
i don't think i ever bought them, i just got loads from events
you can't
but there is a purchase limit
listen i don't make the rules
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:10
hahah
Should I put a DeleteWarning flag for legendary items? Just for consistency?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:11
i wish someone would clean up that part of the code and add a flag for items instead of hardcoding stuff
there is a flag
"gemstore"
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:12
there are items that are quite valuable
and don't require confirmation
urgh
but yeah, i suppose that's a fair flag
if it's implied by legendary items and gemstore items
wait
gemstore/legendary/one-time purchase counter
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:13
my reaper's hood also requires confirmation
oh
achievement reward
(gemstore)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:14
and scrapper's mask isn't apparently
who flagged all these items XD
game designers
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Dec 14 2016 19:14
"game designers"
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:14
they are both elite spec achievement rewards XD
tomes of knowledge... i guess gem store?
likely
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:16
Spirit Quest Tonic...
i still wonder what that item is for actually, besides collection
don't give me the gem store flag for the spirit quest tonic too... i'll fall off my chair
:P
(it's gemstore)
Archomeda @Archomeda falls off his chair
also that tonic is only used for the collection, I think you're supposed to just consume it: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spirit_Quest_Tonic
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:18
yeah, but the item still stays
really? lol
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:18
and the buff does nothing else but fuck up your screen
the buff doesn't stack, according to the wiki, so you can't get like half an hour of it
that's the real shame
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:19
50 seconds is already too long
have you seen it?
spawning one in now
i'm kinda curious
desaturation + ghosts + wobble
i kind of expected more
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:20
it's already too much D:
if it didn't affect nameplates it'd be useful in wvw
make it easier to see the tag
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:22
(small fun image, someone came online whom i tagged with the url of this gif :P)
yeah, nameplates are affected by (de)saturation-levels and color shifts
did you try the new colored circles as well?
it's not useful when your team is blue, and the tag is also blue though...
or when your team is red, and you expect enemies to be red XD
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Dec 14 2016 19:26
oh man, last night on VG we got him to 1% twice in a row
failed on stupid RNG blue spawn on green :(
but we eventually killed him :P
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:30
my gif is from a while ago :P
but that whole fight was buggy
wvw time!
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Dec 14 2016 19:44
i really wished the commander tag was 3x bigger :(
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Dec 14 2016 19:47
I want it to be always on top with a solid-colored border
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Dec 14 2016 19:49
That streamer had the right idea a couple years back ... put the karka egg beam of light above the commander.
MO even seemed to like that idea
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Dec 14 2016 19:50
If it only applied to your squad's commander, I'd go for it
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Dec 14 2016 19:50
Also ... don't have the tag disappear when the commander gets downed.
Yes, only with the squad you're in.
Nabrok
@Nabrok
Dec 14 2016 19:57
Also, should stick to the screen edge when off screen.
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Dec 14 2016 20:14
Ooh, I like that