These are chat archives for arenanet/api-cdi

20th
Apr 2017
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 00:10
check the item's skin to see how many channels there actually are
that's not in /v2/skins currently
Or is that always the same per type or so?
(re #500)
UHHHHHH CRAP
It's per-skin IIRC
Why is that not exposed smh
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 00:13
I don't know, you tell me :P
#501 ok
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 00:13
:+1:
And how does dye remover (https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/colors/1) actually work? Does it really use the colors defined there or does it use the default skin colors?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 00:19
And would that be 1 or null in the equipment endpoint?
The equipment endpoint never returns 1; it replaces it with null.
dyes      : !item.dyes ? undefined : item.dyes.map((id) => (id === 1 ? null : id))
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 00:20
That's what I wanted to know :+1:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 00:22
@lye gmail gave up on you
blob
:heart:
if it makes you feel any better, my personal gmail account has tens of thousands of unread messages
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 00:23
I would not stand for that
my rule is, if I receive an e-mail and I don't immediately want to know the contents
it's spam and unsubscribed
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 00:24
are lye's emails getting close to that? :P
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 00:25
Nah, I'm still very interested in API development
even if all the changes show up here
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 00:25
good ^^
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 00:27
but I will not allow a marketing e-mail to hit my inbox twice
it still exists as /v2/floors while it's been /v2/continents for a while?
#2 wow
i'm so tempted to create a PR that formats all the files into 1 generic format
but that's sooo much work
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 00:36
wasn't there some standard format of documenting JSON structure?
Yeah, there's JSON Schema, but writing schemas is incredibly tedious
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 00:37
I think the format we have is fine
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 00:38
yeah, i think so too, it's just inconsistent sometimes :D
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 00:38
Maybe markdown with codeblocks to have Moore of a docs feel
*more
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 00:40
I was about to say we should use the git wiki feature but..we have a wiki XD
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 00:40
does the wiki actually support syntax highlighting for code blocks?
probably not
the wiki's already got a bunch of stuff in it, and it'd be a huge effort to port though
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 00:42
githubs wikis are kind of a mess
You can't really track changes
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 00:43
well, technically the git wiki is a git repo
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 00:44
Well, you could just use the regular repo + gh pages
It's fine the way we have it now
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 00:47
Huh..What's the difference between Player Chatter and Player Alerts?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 00:47
yeah, i like having the repo as it is right now, it's just the inconsistency in the JSON formatting :P
whitespaces and whatnot
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 00:48
you should poke the API devs about that
:P
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 00:48
chatter -> eg backpacks that talk (FINALLY); alerts -> people pinging stuff on map
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 00:48
That makes noise?
oh it does
..Is that new?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 00:49
No
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 00:49
well gee what game have I been playing these past 4 years
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 00:49
not gw2 obviously
:P
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 00:50
And not GW1 either
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 00:50
Is the menu on shift-click new? That's gotta be somewhat recent..
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 00:52
no...
it's been there for a while now
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 00:52
define a while
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 00:53
added at the same time as that audio option
i... actually don't think the repo has info about /v2/guild/search? or does it?
i'm looking for PRs that added /v2/guild/:id and /v2/guild/search from around late june 2016
but can't find any
sorry, july not june
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 01:06
@lye sneaking in api updates on this day https://gitter.im/arenanet/api-cdi/archives/2016/07/26
also @lye, do you remember what you meant with "Add support for alt repr of guild favor" in https://gitter.im/arenanet/api-cdi?at=579a56edac80b5ea3f14452b ?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 01:18
/v2/characters/:id/heropoints doesn't exist on the repo either
Michael Dougall
@madou
Apr 20 2017 02:47
what would lye do without u
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 02:52
probably continue on and be very happy i'm not derailing this chat anymore :P
Michael Dougall
@madou
Apr 20 2017 02:55
hehehe
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 03:24
well, did what i can: #502, #503, #504
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Apr 20 2017 06:27
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 12:39
heh, that's the worst syntax highlighting i've ever seen :/
i can barely see the blue for function and true
oh, the brackets also have a different color :smile:
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 12:43
I thought the only colored thing was the string...
the . is the same color as the brackets now that I look at it again
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 12:44
lol
that makes no sense
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 12:44
/shrug
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Apr 20 2017 12:44
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 12:44
github has a better syntax hightlighting for js files
i suppose it's just done through css
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 12:45
yup
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 12:45
so it's probably possible to copy that style if you really wanted
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 12:45
well, you gotta tokenize the code anyway in order to use css
there are countless syntax highlighters, just pick one and implement it on the wiki :P
speaking of: that was the one i used to use http://shjs.sourceforge.net/
(ages ago...)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 13:03
well, by reading reddit, apparently someone has 3.5k blocked players, and his client freezes for 5-10 seconds when loading it
i wonder if there's actually a hard limit, or that it will just crash eventually because OOM
Werdes
@werdes
Apr 20 2017 13:15
anyone ever wanted to compile his javascript to php? you can now. https://www.npmjs.com/package/jstophp
Everyday we stray further from the god's light.
Darrian
@rikkuness
Apr 20 2017 13:16
omfg no pls
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 13:16
why
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 13:23
cool, finally we can convert all those nonsense oneliners to php!
t̰͇̯̯̰̙͖̾̀̿̒͌́̇̂h̡̥̠̖̥͈̆̂̂̓̑͌̈́̔̅͡ë̛̹̰͈̺̦͖̼̠̳́̆̾̓̎͟͠ ḙ̡̛̥̖̝̎̈̈̀̅̇̐͐͢͡n̸̡̛̥̩̻͙̫̪̰̓̅̎̆͜͝d̢̢̩̰̯͇͔͕̐͋́̀̎͡ i̡͙̝͖̱̠̰̊́̃̅̐̇̚s̡̰͇̠̫̦̦͎̭̾̒͗͞͞ n̨̢̢͖͖̅̎̽̏̔͆͊̇̓͢͢͝ͅi̵̧̺͙̤͉̭͔̖͕̋̒́̌̒ĝ̷͎͓̠̰̲͈̆̊̽̉̕͟͟h͙̠͔̦͈͎̭̫̮̀̒̈̓̀̄̐ͅ
Darrian
@rikkuness
Apr 20 2017 13:25
is there one to make all my lovely express apps into ASP.NET? Because yunno... I hate my life
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 13:25
lmao
Werdes
@werdes
Apr 20 2017 13:26
i want c# to vb6 :sparkles:
Darrian
@rikkuness
Apr 20 2017 13:26
xD
can someone put in a PR to make sure /v3 is a SOAP API that returns XML
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 13:27
uhh, we had that for /v1 already
Darrian
@rikkuness
Apr 20 2017 13:27
orly? xD
hahahah
Darrian
@rikkuness
Apr 20 2017 13:29
hahaha I was just looking at that
glorious
so enterprise
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 13:29
i... wat
whyyy?
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 13:30
"enterprise"
Darrian
@rikkuness
Apr 20 2017 13:32
I had to write against an IBM API once, that was a rough time
SOAP XML, and there was only one endpoint, you got your content by POST'ing an XML containing a structure defining the thing you wanted to get and it'd send it back
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 13:33
the Tomtom Business API used to provide XML/SOAP and CSV
glad they finally offer JSON nowadays
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 14:24
did the wvw servers explode or something?
i have no stats in my wvw panel :P
oh wait, there they are
it only took 2 minutes to load haha
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 16:08
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 16:10
"at least you tried"
Darrian
@rikkuness
Apr 20 2017 16:11
doesn't work in my version ;p or is this a stab at scoping
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 16:17
it's a stab at unicode
Darrian
@rikkuness
Apr 20 2017 16:18
oh shit I didn't even spot that, the font is different in jsfiddle haha
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 16:20
:D
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 16:22
let 2 + 2 = 5 in 2 + 2
kay
5
^Haskell

it's just the inconsistency in the JSON formatting

@Archomeda pull requests accepted :<

do you remember what you meant with "Add support for alt repr of guild favor"

@Archomeda I'm pretty sure that was for aetherium/stones/whatever the hell weird currencies were added with HoT

Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 16:52
ah, alright
i don't want webstorm to handle the json formatting, since the .js files actually don't contain valid code, it screws it up even more :D
is there any tool out there where you can specify your own rules for formatting?
wait the .js files aren't valid code what
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 16:54
the js files in the repo :P
right
having unassigned object literals is valid i thought
and not having semicolons is fine
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 16:55
hmm, maybe
i actually didn't think of that
it's certainly not good code, but I think it's valid
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 16:55
fear the automatic semicolon insertion tho
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 16:56
*****/api-cdi/v2/colors.js:4
[ 1, 2, 3, ... ]
               ^
SyntaxError: Unexpected token ]
rip
fair ;_;
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 16:57
*****/api-cdi/v2/finishers.js:11
        "id": 42,
            ^
SyntaxError: Unexpected token :
rip too
it doesn't like the quotes i think
quotes in object keys are json only :(
what
that's patently false
putting x = before the opening { fixes it
literally no idea
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:00
oh rofl
fun part
in ./v2/finishers only putting that in front of 1 object makes the whole file valid
wait, i think that's because the second part is an array of objects
oh, duh
it's because a statement with { is a block statement
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:02
oh right
hah :sob:
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 17:02
haven't looked at the repo files in a long time, but phpstorm only complains about the comments in the js/json files
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:03
{} can be an empty object literal, or an empty code block :')
honestly though the only reason the example files end in .js is so github's syntax highlighter works
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:03
yeah, syntax highlighting works just fine :D
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 17:03
screw github's syntax highlighting :D
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:03
thats why {} + [] can yield both "[object Object]" as well as 0
(if you put parentheses around it it produces the former, otherwise the latter)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:04
if you do .json it doesn't like comments
since json can't contain comments
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 17:04
@Eearslya didn't spot the unicode in there too
ṷ̶͉̲̪̹̱͂̔͑̓͆̄͂͆͝ņ̵̤̬̳̳̜̰̤̯̑̊͊̎́̍̉͢ī̶̙̜̰͎͉̺̼̼̯̂͐̿̆̎̔̕͟c̸̢͉̥̬̗̻̹̄̄̋͗͞͞ơ̸͖̜̝͔̣̭͚̹͑̿̑̓̽̒̽͐͠ḑ̧̝̯̯̂̊͒͐͋̓̐͟͡e̷͎͚̥̗̮̺͔̻̿̄̅̈͌̕͜ ì̸̥̝̦̯̦̿͌́͗́s̶̢̡͍͚̀̎̀͋͐̀̂̈̕͜͡ ḣ̡̖͔̣̖̂̈́̍̎̍̔̒̇̕͢e͙͙̻͚͇̝̼͎͇̔̎̾͛̽́͋̊͂l̸̡̡̦̳̙͊̏̀̀̊͋̏l̻̰̘̣̲̈́̾̍̀̿̊̊̆̈́̕
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:05
did uhh
firefox add a bloody json viewer
like in the default install
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:07
well it also has an XML viewer
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:07
dunno
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:07
so I would not be surprised
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:07
haven't used it for a few years
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 17:08
lmao. the one valid reason to use firefox, eh?
or is there another?
umm
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:08
I have JSONView installed in my chrome
we should burn the web down and bring back gopher?
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 17:09
heh
there's a jsonview extension for ff as well
it literally chugs forever on both ff and chrome with large API responses
there's a reason the API emits pretty-printed JSON
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:09
yeah but it didnt for a while
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:09
so back then I installed the JSON viewer thing
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:09
oh god that url
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:10
and you know how stubborn "endusers" can be :>
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:10
the extension i linked just shuts off if the file is too big
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:11
you can also configure the max size, which is quite nice
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 17:11
(i think i never uninstalled it despite that critical vulnerability couple months ago...)
i mean, in the end that's a good reason to have a json viewer bundled/built-in in the browser
I want a JSON viewer that doesn't poop the bed when I give it a 100KB document
how hard can it bloody be
the web is a wasteland
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 17:13
JSON.stream() pls
I wonder if you can have firefox shell out to an external utility for rendering stuff
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:14
write one in webassembly?
wasteland
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:21
or... we can swap over to markdown :P
is there a json->markdown converter
not gonna lie, half the time i copy paste examples from the api
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 17:22
just wrap it in```
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:22
sure...
\`\`\`js
// some js here
// HOW DO I DO THIS WITH ESCAPING THIS
\`\`\`
eh
thanks markdown
@darthmaim genius
listen
i need to get some coffee
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 17:22
:P
I'll book a day to revamp all the docs, @Archomeda don't worry about doing that
No need to get bogged down when you have the changelog to worry about ;3
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 17:23
but docs is something we can do while you work on stuff we can't help you with
``​`
// hurr
`​``
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 17:24
```
//js here
```
plebs
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:24
;-;
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 17:24
first try too
didn't really expect that :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:24
```javascript
//js here
```
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 17:24
there ya go
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:25
whatever
didn't expect it needed 6 backticks
markdown is weird sometimes
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 17:25
you can use any amount > 3 I think
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:25
you need escape codes to escape escape codes
Huh, I used a zero-width space because :evil: I guess
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:26
in any case, i think i might be able to finish the changelog today
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:26
I tried to commit some files using SVN today
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:26
maybe
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:26
I got stuck
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:27
try /unstuck
:P
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:27
because I could not comprehend how I tell svn to not care about files
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:27
there's no .svnignore?
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:27
I literally contemplated checking out the repo using git svn clone, paste in my changes, and use the git frontend for SVN
no there is not
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:28
rip
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:28
there is a notion of putting properties on folders
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:28
there was only one time i had to work with svn
and it sucked
it helps that i can skip like october to december 2016 almost :P
and august
and half september
eh
oh right, that before september was vacation i think
don't worry i got this
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:32
how terrible are todays fractals...
hmm
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:32
is there a github sorting feature that sorts by issue close date?
i know there's by recently updated, but sometimes people respond on closed issues :(
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 17:44
you can add a property called svn:ignore to you root folder where you can specify all ignored paths
IIRC, been some time
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Apr 20 2017 17:45
is there a way of searching previous conversation history in gitter?
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 17:45
I tried that
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 17:45
there is the search on the left
good luck
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:45
@ChieftainAlex sure, with :sparkles:
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Apr 20 2017 17:46
lol it appears to randomly sort the search results
surprised it doesn't embed images in the search results tbh
not sure if/how that helps
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Apr 20 2017 17:49
luckily cats aren't discussed much here
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:49
!cats
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 17:50
:(
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Apr 20 2017 17:50
all i wanted was a source for this
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:50
:(
there was @lye's gist too
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Apr 20 2017 17:51
yeah that was linked from the wiki api page
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:52
ah right
when the repo is going to have a revamp, i vote for these examples to be included somewhere, instead of in random gists :D
<__<
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 17:54
> ‿ >
a horrible attempt at creating something myself
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:13
the dutch T-Mobile won a court case whether they are allowed to zero rate music streaming in The Netherlands. The original (pre-EU) dutch law prohibited it, but the European law allowed zero rating
like rating music as 0/5 stars?
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:14
no, as in, not being part of your data plan
ah. im dum
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:14
ah
funny how it wasn't allowed first
it makes sense that it wouldn't be allowed
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:15
well, it kinda does, and it kinda doesn't
it gives unfair advantage with the music services that collude to get zero rate status with the ISP
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:15
well T-Mobile played it interestingly. They vowed to include all major streaming platforms
so the public opinion was good
wordplay
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:15
yeah, that's the only reason how i can see that it would make sense that it isn't allowed
lol
major...
if they ever quantified "major" i wouldn't complain
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:16
i want to host my own music streaming service from my home
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:16
but the court case that they won now, obliterates the original dutch law
David Reeß
@queicherius
Apr 20 2017 18:16
But including all the major ones fucks the smaller startup, I'd totally see that as anti-competitive
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:16
give me zero rating t-mobile
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:16
making zero-rating way more dangerous then T-Mobile is using it now
say "any music streaming platform that serves only mp3-formatted audio at a bitrate not exceeding 144bps with over 100k current paying subscribers"
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:17
meh, they say that if you submit a request for a streaming service to be included
they will consider it
but yeah, they probably only know about the big ones
you mean "wait a week before sending a boilerplate 'no' response"
i'm so salty today
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:18
yeah probably
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:19
you know, i wish that providers that provides both mobile and landline(?) internet connections, and you have a subscription to both, give you zero rating from sending and receiving data on both ends
proxying ftw
:P
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:19
but the most dangerous thing now, because the dutch law is obliterated, other providers can now follow, and maybe have more selective offers
like Vodafone only zero-rating "Spotify"
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:19
yeah
that is kinda anti-consumer
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:20
which makes that Vodafone suddenly has an edge
they can charge me for the subscription to their service, and spotify for zero rating their service
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:21
isn't that what kpn is doing for a long time already as well?
like with their "unlimited" spotify for what... €10/month?
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:21
that was thrown out by court
because they did that before the EU law was in place
and the (stricter) dutch law prohibited any of it
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:22
i know i've seen ads for that when Hi still existed really
and i'm sure i've still seen it as an option for my subscription recently
oh hm
there's no unlimited option for me
but there's still the option to pay €9,99/month for 1500 MB spotify premium
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:25
yeah but that 1.5G is not actually only usable by spotify
therefore its fine
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:25
oh
that wording though
kpn pls
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:26
but I just hate that this zero-rating verdict
is celebrated as a victory
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:27
well, it's fine as long as they allow every music streaming service
but we all know it's probably not going to turn out like that
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:27
while it is in essence, one step away from internet providers being the indiscriminate providers they should be
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:28
downside of EU
/shrug
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Apr 20 2017 18:28
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Apr 20 2017 18:30
meh the EU should have made this a reccommendation for law
they in essence threw the dutch law out by classifying it wrong
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 18:37
in essence they screwed net neutrality
uhh question: are there any skins where the number of dye channels changes based on character race?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:41
alright, i'll do the rest of january to march 2017 later :P
almost done
woop
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 18:41
:clap:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:42
when i'm done with this, i'll replace the api changelog on the wiki; then others can fill in what happened pre-july 2015
oh god the number of channels can vary by gender too
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:44
wat
because they're different models
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:44
i get that, but why not designing it with the same dye channels?
I might just pretend everyone is a human female because let's be honest here
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:44
which you obviously cannot answer
:sob:
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 18:45
*Aurin female
@Archomeda they might all have the same dye channels, but the code appears to support varying based on both race and gender
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 18:45
oh wait, wrong game
@codemasher no
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 18:45
:D
oh I thought you said asuran.
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 18:45
lmao no
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:45
hmm
lol
fatal error C1189: #error :  A program with no client-side component should not need Audio
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 18:46
(~90% of the Wildstar population is probably Aurin, the rest Chua... :D)
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 18:46
I think 7 of my 9 asura are female
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:46
what you can do, is have default dye channels; and if a skin actually has race/gender differences expose it in an extra field?
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 18:46
they just look better
@Archomeda that's if I ever get this crap to link.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:46
:<
the dye channels are stored in the material properties which are stored in the mesh which pulls in the model loading service which pulls in the audio service
wouldn't be surprised if it brought have the UI layer with it too
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 20 2017 18:48
so you can still expose that data, right?
I'm going to try, at least.
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 20 2017 18:48
hehe
What should have taken 20 minutes is likely going to take the rest of the day though
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 20 2017 18:49
nothing is impossible with programming. It just depends how much money the client has :D
i'm building the leaning tower of pisa with bricks made out of old spaghetti
nothing is impossible
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:50
Omg
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 20 2017 18:50
haha
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 18:50
semi-related: is #62 possible?
codemasher @codemasher hides
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Apr 20 2017 18:50
if only it was lasagna... would've been easier to build straight bricks
@codemasher it is possible but the effort:benefit ratio is higher than other things
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 18:51
awww
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 18:53
NPC locations... Well those definitely vary
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 19:04
hmmm, i just thought of something
completely unrelated tho
but is it technically speaking exploiting if i were to create a new character, use the guild portal to jump to the proxemics lab puzzle, mine iron, deposit the iron, delete the character and start over again?
not sure if it's worth the rich iron node though
smiley
@codemasher
Apr 20 2017 19:08
the "old" BLTC key farming was kind of an exploit, that's why it was changed
doubt that mining iron comes close to that
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 20:16
Oooh.
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Apr 20 2017 20:22
no back claims.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 20:34
haha
ughhhhhhhhhhhh adding dyes was a mistake
different genders/races 100% have different channels
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 22:40
oh dear
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Apr 20 2017 22:41
:(
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Apr 20 2017 22:42
ooh boy
rip lye
rip lye's sanity
so much for just hardcoding RACE_TOKEN_HUMAN_FEMALE
Michael Dougall
@madou
Apr 20 2017 23:39
aww shit bois embeds on metabattle.com: https://metabattle.com/wiki/Template:ESkillbar
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 23:42
yay
now if only metabattle itself doesn't take an old mailcarrier to deliver the contents to me
Michael Dougall
@madou
Apr 20 2017 23:44
/shrug
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Apr 20 2017 23:44
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 23:44
qtfy has a way better site now that they've changed hosting :D
Michael Dougall
@madou
Apr 20 2017 23:44
qtfy just has to get rid of their mouse override
and they'll be g o l d e n
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 23:44
oh yeah
wait
i did fix that didn't i?
Michael Dougall
@madou
Apr 20 2017 23:44
did u?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 23:44
then why is that mouse cursor still there...
yeah, locally
css override
Michael Dougall
@madou
Apr 20 2017 23:45
oh yeah
nice
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 23:45
ehm...
Michael Dougall
@madou
Apr 20 2017 23:45
heeyyy
you know that skill build thing ur making
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 23:45
i think it might have been because i had to reinstall windows after my ssd failed :sob:
Michael Dougall
@madou
Apr 20 2017 23:45
:sob:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 23:47
* {
    cursor: auto !important;
}
there, done
Michael Dougall
@madou
Apr 20 2017 23:51
nice
what are you doing about tooltips for ur new build editor? if ur making it in react i could split out my tooltip components into separate modules for u to use
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Apr 20 2017 23:59
i'm not the person to ask for tooltips :P
@darthmaim has control over that