These are chat archives for arenanet/api-cdi

9th
Jun 2017
smiley
@codemasher
Jun 09 2017 01:09
omg what happened here? a gazillion unread messages D:
and hi @cliffspradlin! long time no see :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 01:13
yeah... a reunion happened
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Jun 09 2017 01:18
I've been so out of the loop lately, but wishing you all the best @tivac at your new gig! The API will never be the same.
What happens if both Mag/BG tie in skrimish points? Do we both get 1st place bonus chests for the week?
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:28
@rwfrk_twitter btw @tivac did a lot more than the API! he was the lead programmer on all of ArenaNet's websites + a bunch of the in-game UI :)
with the important distinction/exception of the original GW1 and arena.net sites :)
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:36
I owned https://arena.net for... 8 of the almost 9 years at arenanet?
this latest version is like 95% me too
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 05:36
Define owned
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:37
i was on purpose excluding you for the first version :)
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:37
built with me own two hands
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:37
yes
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:37
we revamped guildwars.com a few years back after the CMS running it... disappeared...
(not our CMS lol)
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:37
i've always been super impressed with the new arena.net
i think it came out shortly after i left
i always show it to people
like look at this great company i used to work at!
everyone smiles! :)
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:38
oh there's a newer one than matt's version
shipped a few months back
it's similar to that design but even more stripped down
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:38
oh yeah it's different now
less background things
lol cute, choose your profession
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:39
they were about to start breaking because he did insane things to make it smooth
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:39
ahhh i see
it was very smooth :)
yay, web archive saved it forever for posterity http://web.archive.org/web/20150315004236/http://www.arena.net/
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:41
:worried: shhhhhh
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:42
they made us remove all the easter eggs from the mission control UI one time we were doing a joint sim with NASA and something not too dissimilar to the dennis nedry lockout screen in jurassic park appeared on the big screen with sound
elon was there; from that point on, easter eggs were banned
which is a little weird because he super encouraged them at tesla
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:43
haha well space is a bit more serious than cars
or video games
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:43
i suppose
i mean, tesla cars are extremely dangerous :)
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:44
lololol
so, having worked there and since left: if I can afford it someday should I get a tesla?
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:44
and one of the easter eggs literally raises the torque limit of the engine to its absolute limit
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:44
GIMME THE DIRT
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:44
really, beyond its designed limit
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:44
that sounds less like an easter egg and more like a deathtrap
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:44
hrmmm
lol
the good news is that a tesla is the safest car on the road to have a crash IN
i still have a model 3 reservation but when i left, HR made a point of telling me that they were kicking me to the back of the line
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:45
that's pretty harsh
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:45
yeah :)
i just got an electric car so i'm kinda considering removing the reservation
i spent a -lot- of time at the factory, and trying to study the reliability of parts before we launched products
i dunno :)
i mean, it's.. unlikely to be a honda accord in terms of reliability
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:46
couldn't wait for a 3?
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:47
surprisingly there's no GBus from where i live to work
so i had to get a car
i got a $7500 nissan leaf with 18k miles on it
it's worked out well so far
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:47
oh nice
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:47
where did you live when you lived here?
(Berkeley)
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:48
ooooh berkeley
what did you call it, the red brick building, that was around berkeley?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:49
Not sure I get the reference, sorry
Been a while :smile:
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:49
oh, the yahoo building you worked at
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:50
oh brickhouse
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:50
maybe it was called like the firehouse or something? :)
i was close!
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:50
yeah, was over in SF though
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:50
ah
anyways, i think that model S's are pretty reliable and solid now. model 3 will be at some point
personally i'd get a model 3; spending 70+k for a car is silly
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:51
agreed
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:51
Milo was the first baby to baby test the model 3 :)
he'll never remember!
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:51
you are a very, very brave man
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:51
oh it didn't move
he was just sitting in the car seat in the back stationary
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:51
oh lol
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:51
but i guess there was a chance of spontaneous explosion
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:52
I mean when is there not, really?
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:52
:) they needed a baby to test some idea about detecting someone leaving a baby in the car
i think a great idea
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:53
oh definitely
There was a long article about parents who had left babies in their cars that I read years ago
it was horrifying and deeply sad
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:53
yeah :(
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:53
I used to work here, https://goo.gl/maps/fn2pxrF4WBL2
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:54
oh so trendy
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:54
I do still miss BART, taking busses to Amazon and it's not quite the same
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:54
i love private busses
oh, is it not private?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:54
amazon has shuttles but there isn't enough parking at the shuttle locations
so they have available seats but nowhere for my car
God I miss Primo Patio
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:55
ohh i see
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:55
I still think about their jerk chicken sandwich
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:55
it's an abandoned mall that google x bought
as you can see, there is a lot of drivable area on the roof
which is pretty useful for us; at tesla we didnt have that so we just had to test on the highway
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:56
You say these things as if it's the most normal thing in the world
your job is cool :+1:
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:56
:)
i will have to try primo patio
and tell you about how delicious it is for vicarious enjoyment
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:57
lol
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:57
(the worst kind of enjoyment)
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:57
working in a formerly abandoned mall sounds real weird
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:57
it's super weird
it's all gutted too
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:58
makes sense though I guess
is it super creepy at night? :skull:
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:58
but there are signs that google up saying like 'there used to be a JC penney here'
hmm i have not had the pleasure of spending the night there :)
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:58
what why would you do that
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:58
lol just for historical pleasure
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:58
those signs sound super weird
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:58
lol
i guess the best part is they have scooters everywhere
because all the floors are big flat cement
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 05:59
yeah that'd be useful
how's your scooter game?
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 05:59
a bunch of people have trendy things like hoverboards and i dunno a tire thing that moves
it's ok... not great yet
there are also a lot of robots and drones walking/flying around all the time
there is this one robot that carries around snacks on a platter
i don't know if you've seen this show silicon valley but it's so amazingly on point
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:01
yeah it fits with what I remember from my time down there
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:01
have you been to the cashier-less amazon store?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:01
and things have only gotten more ridiculous as far as I can tell
Oh the shoplifting simulator?
Yeah
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:01
lollll
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:02
it's profoundly weird
and IMO kinda creepy
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:02
i can't stop laughing lol
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:02
you look up and can't even count the number of cameras
but the tech seems to work the couple of times I went
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:02
were you correctly charged?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:02
which is super impressive
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:02
is it considered successful if you make it out without detection?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:03
lol I still have a windows phone so I can't get the app, but the people who let me borrow their account were
I didn't do much to try and fuck w/ it though
I just needed lunch
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:03
lol i see
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:03
tempting to take things off the shelf and put them back in the wrong spot
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:03
that's gotta be a failure case
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:04
would need to verify the refund policy first XD
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:04
lol
it's probably annoying
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:04
Hah, wouldn't surprise me
Been weird coming back to a big company
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:05
yeah
i'm really curious how google/amazon/yahoo compare in culture
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:05
where every interaction with HR/IT/etc is via ticketing systems
amazon's huge so it's hard to compare to my Y! time 9 years ago
but similar in a lot of ways
though they do like to tell everyone how "different" they are
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:05
do you have a door desk?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:06
which I find amusing because it doesn't seem that weird to me so far
yep, got a desk that looks like it was made in a High School shop class
sturdy as hell though so I don't much mind
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:06
heh
did you get the big size aeron chair? :)
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:06
hah, they've got some other Herman Miller chairs there
I seem to fit in it fine, but time will tell if I need to get a special one
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:07
waymo is extremely cramped and almost like ikea-level furniture
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:07
I wish I had a big aeron at home, the one at arenanet was amazing
I just have a B here, the C at arenanet was great though
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:07
every job i've had has become increasingly more cramped. i would like an office once :)
ahh
yeah i remember the whole aeron lottery lol
that was funny
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:07
gotta get on that manager track
god the lottery
right
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:08
nobody has an office
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:08
directors at amazon get weird little cube offices in the middle of the room
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:08
the head of google x wears roller blades so that he can skate between meeting rooms all day
funny
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:08
that's the most silicon valley thing I've heard in a while
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:08
can you have a reasonably private conversation in the cube?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:09
Yeah I assume so, the walls go all the way up and it's got a door
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:09
ah i see
that is weird :)
as far as amenities and culture go, i really miss the weekly drinking/hanging out on the patio
that was really helpful to my well being
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:10
yeah, that's the stuff I've missed the most w/o you/kate/tyler at arenanet
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:10
:)
you haven't revived it yet with kate at amazon?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:11
Not yet, still my first week though
apparently they do a drinks thing every friday in the lobby cafe
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:11
oh i didn't realize this just just happened
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:12
oh i see :) i really really try to swear off twitter
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:12
haha fair enough
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:12
yeah it's funny new hire orientation really is the same everywhere
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:12
I've never been to one that felt critical
or even very useful
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:12
i was happy with how serious google was about talking about unconscious bias and making sure women are treated equally
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:13
oh that's awesome
amazon covered it a tiny bit, but just barely
mostly just hammering home the leadership principles stuff
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:13
ah yeah
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:13
people here take those VERY seriously
it's... a little creepy
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:13
really? like they talk about it actively?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:13
all.the.time
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:14
Leaders are right a lot. lol
trust the overlord
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:15
those're the ones
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:15
so wait, everyone is supposed to be a leader?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:15
I think it's intended more like "we hire leaders, so trust your instincts"?
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:15
type B is not appreciated?
this is sounding a lot like valve
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:15
I don't think it's quite as cutthroat
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:15
i hope not!
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:16
whatever I can stab some backs if necessary
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:16
lol
are you mostly working with arenanet people or are there a lot of new faces?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:16
but yeah everyone's expected to take a lot of ownership and be pretty independent
um, it's a split so far.
I sit near Jon Peters and John Corpening, next to Jeff Grubb, within earshot of Colin Johanson, and two desks from Kate
but then my team has no arenanet folks
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:17
i see
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:17
Kekai's doing concept art
Daniel Dociu has some ill-defined art leadership role for all the studios
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:17
wait, daniel is at amazon now?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:17
James Ackley's doing audio
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:17
who is the art director at arenanet now?
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:18
Horia :smile:
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:18
ooooh cool
so he came back
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:18
yeah
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:18
that's awesome, i'm happy for him
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:18
anet has had a lot of boomerang employees lately
which is rad, I loved it there too
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:19
yea i know jason jackson went back too from the same place
i've kind of kept in touch with jason, daniel jennings, braeden.. just from overwatch
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:19
oh man daniel
is he still at valve?
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:19
he's apparently like the lead of Dota 2 now
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:19
wild
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:19
yeah!
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:19
he never did get me an interview over there
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:20
aw
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:20
Probably for the best, I like making games
and valve only kinda does that these days
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:21
thats true, there's like a 90% chance you'd be on steam something
you know it's funny, when i talked to google i mentioned my server programming skills
and they're like.. yeah we don't really care about that at all
we can get all the world class server programmers we need that know google infrastructure inside and out
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:22
big companies do that to you
at least from my experience it's harder to really get your fingers into everything in a meaningful way
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:23
waymo has very few external postings, and the ones they do have are for things like electrical engineers
strangely even the team i'm on wasn't posted externally, even though it's about low level interaction with the car and sensors
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:24
I assume there's a reason behind that
seems too weird to be coincidence
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:25
i'm not sure. it's also about like the linux kernel and board bringup
so the other people on my team are either from chromebook or android
so i guess google does have most of that expertise internally
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:26
MS degree in Robotics, Computer Science or equivalent practical experience.
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:27
everyone thought based on my title that i had a PhD :/
i was like, about that..
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:27
cliff you have a phd from the school of LIFE
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:27
lol awesome
i gotta go to bed. i'm so glad we got to catch up a little bit @tivac :)
Pat Cavit
@tivac
Jun 09 2017 06:31
Hit me up whenever dude, I miss hanging out w/ you
cliffspradlin
@cliffspradlin
Jun 09 2017 06:31
likewise
Michael Dougall
@madou
Jun 09 2017 06:51
:angel:
:shipit:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 13:21
..Colin's at Amazon? Wow.
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 13:22
wait what @Eearslya you just learned that?
So I just read this entire caht
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 13:22
I never knew where he want
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 13:22
Enjoy your new job @tivac
@Eearslya there was an interview shared on the GW2 reddit, with him, and he talked about it
also why are all those leaving Anet going to Amazon? isn't there other companies in the area?
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 13:35
who will supervise @lye now?
:fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 13:36
@lye himself
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 13:36
:fire_engine:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 13:36
but yeah, it's amazing to read this stuff
@tivac @cliffspradlin good luck! :D
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 13:37
So which company is @cliffspradlin working at?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 13:37
i believe it's google now?
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 13:37
and SpaceX/tesla before?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 13:37
i think so
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 13:38
man... and here I am doing contract work at the government
Coffee4cr @Coffee4cr is sad
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 13:38
it really seems like gotta catch 'em all :joy:
i don't think i'll be able to do that; i like staying at one place when i'm happy :D
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 13:51
this job is the longest i've been at one place
5 yrs
I usually changed after 2 years
I don't know why, but when i'm somewhere, and get used to the systems, and know pretty much everything, I find it boring and need a new challenge
this job
5 years, and I still don't know everything
LOL
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 13:54
oh god...
yet another mail that my GWAMM title is revoked since i was not supposed to have it
why XD
smiley
@codemasher
Jun 09 2017 13:57
lolwut?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 13:57
apparently gw1 was down
smiley
@codemasher
Jun 09 2017 13:57
and?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 13:57
achievements are reset as well
you have to log back into gw1 for it to update again :P
smiley
@codemasher
Jun 09 2017 13:58
lol really? :D
Darqam
@Darqam
Jun 09 2017 14:45
seems to happen every 6 months or so
smiley
@codemasher
Jun 09 2017 14:47
not that i know of
(at least the GW1 down part)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 15:35
@lye you play on YB right?
WP is currently livestreaming on YB wvw :P
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:38
talking about how to exploit the pip system
but it only works at this time, when the servers are dead
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 15:38
haha yeah, because of chat
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:38
during primetime, everything is queued, and outnumbered is not a thing
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 15:38
tbf, it doesn't take much brain power to come to this conclusion of the outnumbered buff
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:39
yeah yeah, but it only works during the day, when people are working and there's no queued
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 15:39
yeah, it only works in non-primetime
at least for the next few weeks
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:39
yeah I do see the population dying down pretty quick
cause for the legendary backpack you need 350 rank, I think
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 15:40
pve'ers don't want to stay in queue :P
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:40
So people like us, who've played since launch in some weekly WvW, we're fine
but PVE'rs who are just joining now
will notice it's kind of long, to grind to 350 :P
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 15:40
hehe
imagine 2k for the armor
(which i don't even like personally)
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:41
yeah
I don't like the light
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 15:41
this week, farming to the last diamond chest, i gained like 50 ranks
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:41
I do like the Rank pips though
I find it pretty fair to rewards those that do it every day and are at +7
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 15:42
yeah
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:42
like I mean I do it once or twice a week and i'm at +2
and i'm looking at my guildies who just recently join and they're rank like 20, and i'm like yeah, you're far from +2
haha
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 15:42
!rank
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Jun 09 2017 15:42
Oooo, @Archomeda. Your WvW rank is Silver Raider (743).
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 15:42
:D
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:42
!rank
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Jun 09 2017 15:42
Oooo, @Coffee4cr. Your WvW rank is Silver Assaulter (684).
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 15:43
wow, you were close to that +2
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:43
I know
lol
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 15:43
:P
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 15:43
hmm gotta have a look at wvw one of these days again
i'm at rank 200 or so
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:44
what server are you in?
@BoyC
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 15:44
piken
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:44
oh EU
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 15:44
piken pride! :)
yeah
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:44
had someone in my stream from EU last night
said their EBG was at 120 queue
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 15:44
i had the foresight to do the wvw overlay last weekend before i couldn't get in due to queues :D
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:44
and each night, he was in queue for 2h
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 15:45
yeah
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:45
so he got home, got in queue, made dinner and ate. Came back and waited another half hour
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 15:45
i'll probably do something similar just do some coding instead of eating
gotta make that tp notifier happen today
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:46
you didn't reply the other day, but have you pushed that player created quest forward?
you wanted to use the API to check for items in your inventory and stuff
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 15:47
not yet
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:47
let me know if you ever do :D
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 15:47
angelscript is compiling into the overlay already, it's just not useful yet
had a talk with wp about the idea, he was all for it too :)
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 15:50
yeah I would use it for our exploration events
probably automate the whole thing with a story built in it :)
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 15:54
there's a growing french community around taco, maybe they would do some epic stuff with it :)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 16:00
piken hmm?
:wave: from gandara
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 17:03
:)
Darrian
@rikkuness
Jun 09 2017 17:30
damnit gankdara
:wave: from Deso
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 17:37
hehe
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 18:05
OMG reset
i try to spam F on the gate, no server response
queues went up :D
and now i'm #66
:(
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 18:09
supposedly, using the gates in LA isn't the best option
but instead use the WvW panel directly
:D
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 19:17
well, borders are bugged everywhere ._. hello from fsp :wave:
Darrian
@rikkuness
Jun 09 2017 19:25
we're playing against both FSP and Gand I think :o
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 19:30
yup, it's gandara vs fsp vs deso :wave:
Darrian
@rikkuness
Jun 09 2017 19:31
see you all on the battlefield ;D if I ever get through a queue this week
Edgar Doiron
@Coffee4cr
Jun 09 2017 19:34
so world re-linking is happening at the end of the month
so we might get more single server matchups
to lower some queues
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 19:41
yeah the same is on gandara bl for fsp. can't join :-1:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 19:42
lol
we can't join OS
/shrug
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Jun 09 2017 19:42
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 19:51
me neither
/shrug
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Jun 09 2017 19:52
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 19:53
does anyone know the id of the image that rotates behind the daily bouncy chests?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 19:53
what's the error message you get?
something with maintenance?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 19:55
@BoyC I think thats one of 157215-157217
hmm, there are some more similar looking ones
no idea which one it actually is
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 19:56
it'll definitely have alpha
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 19:56
maybe 255258
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 19:56
yeah that might be it
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 19:57
the black/white ones are alpha masks
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 19:57
1069:9:17:4776:101 Maintenance
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 19:57
maybe some stuff for the appearing animation in there too
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 19:58
i'm looking for something to put around the exclamation mark
255403 looks cool but can't find the alpha for it :)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 19:58
yeah, seems like the same message
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 19:59
255404 is probably the alpha mask for 255403
I guess its a combination of all of those for different shaders to get the flickering effect
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 20:00
maybe
thx i'll find a nice combination
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 20:00
:+1:
there is some nice shader magic in there
for example the appearing gw2 logo
let me see if I can find those again
110870 and 110873 contain the timing info for 110874 and 110875
which is super obvious and easy when you think about it
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 20:03
@lye do you happen to know if the wvw team is aware of the wvw joining bug?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 20:03
but I found it cool
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Jun 09 2017 20:04
I totally didn't spend all of yesterday living under the false mentality it was Friday. Pay no attention to my reset hype comments about our queue!
@Archomeda lemme check
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Jun 09 2017 20:08
@Archomeda Can you be more specific?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 20:09
:point_up: 9 juni 2017 21:34 and beyond
fsp doesn't have anything on gandara borderlands atm
Jonathan Andrist
@rwfrk_twitter
Jun 09 2017 20:10
Interesting. Time to poke my SFR friend
We've identified that there is an issue
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 20:33
does it require a restart? :D
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 20:33
:P
Dunno
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 20:33
alright, cool :)
The uhh, reported player counts for the affected maps look like 75 + 75 + 75 = 150
(each shard summed = total)
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 20:34
i hope it requires a map reset, rs border is fully t3'd by abaddon by now
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 20:34
wtf
math is hard apparently
even for computers ;P
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 20:35
75 map cap confirmed
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 20:36
that would be per world
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 20:36
:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
BoyC
@BoyC
Jun 09 2017 20:51
hm. after fixing the clipping this should do fine. https://snag.gy/jotRf1.jpg
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 20:52
oh hey, OS is fixed
@werdes is GBL also fixed for you now?
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 20:57
gimme a sec
yep, gbl is fixed. forward my thanks @lye :wave:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 20:57
:+1:
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 20:58
has 3 t3 enemy garris though, every camp is t3, every tower at least t2. hard times
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 20:58
sadly no server restart though :(
i had hoped to skip the 75 man queue
we can't reset objective status, unfortunately
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 20:59
admin mode onehit gates :sparkles:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 20:59
well, fsp is still 2nd :P you're beating deso
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 20:59
meh, gandara beat us last week as well because they actually know how to ppt ...
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 21:00
yeah, our K/D wasn't too great :(
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 21:00
and it appears they spend their time with other things than just spamming "pve fgts get off my map reeeee" from spawn
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 21:00
lol
Darrian
@rikkuness
Jun 09 2017 21:00
I don't know if anyone from deso is even getting groups together, neither of the WvW guilds I'm in are tagged tonight :/
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 21:01
believe me, yesterday /t was full of someone constantly spamming, Y ONLY 1 PIP EB CARRY US PLS
rip deso :(
Darrian
@rikkuness
Jun 09 2017 21:03
even the deso community discord is quiet haha our guild have called it off altogether until next week
guild leader is trying to find fighting guild interested in meeting up in EotM for GvG
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 21:04
oh, i did a few gvgs vs vE back in the days on eotm. was an absolute chore, cannons and pugs everywhere
Darrian
@rikkuness
Jun 09 2017 21:05
o rly :(
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 21:06
if you find a guild, try to overpopulate a map and open a fresh one
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 21:11

admin mode onehit gates

/.transform pillow

"oops left a killzone around all the gates"
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 21:12
where did the name 'pillow' come from for that transform anyway?
beats me
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 21:12
I always just guessed it was an inside joke. A transform called "pillow" that hits for 300,000
not very soft at all
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 21:28
oh thank you anet
i was queued while being in OS, i walked away from my pc, got hold up, came back and dc'd due to inactivity
and then i lost my queue :(
but! 2 minutes ago there was the notification of a new build! \o/
SAVED
:cry: :point_right: :smile:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 21:30
yup
kind of my reaction, exactly
is this a wvw fix for NA?
well, you probably don't know that
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 21:35
but i can imagine that they want to fix the issue that EU had before NA gets reset
Werdes
@werdes
Jun 09 2017 21:37
well that issue wasn't completely new, i remember it happening some time ago
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 21:37
i haven't experienced a wvw reset in ages
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 21:46
still glad though
i'm in GBL now :D
yeah it's an issue that's existed since launch
the exact cause isn't known and is incredibly difficult to reproduce
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 21:55
D:
restarting the DC coordination server fixes it though :s
hmmmm.png
looks like yesterday's charades continue
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 21:57
:/
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 21:58
:(
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 21:58
I mean..does that actually negatively impact the servers? At least, a noticable amount?
nope
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 21:59
Honestly makes me wonder what they're trying to do
who even has the bandwidth for 12+ thousand requests a minute
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 21:59
yeah, you need like what? at least 500 players attempting to join the a wvw server at the same time to reproduce it?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 21:59
probably just some scripts instantly retrying failed requests
Eearslya @Eearslya pulls out a calculator
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 22:00
I kinda want to try how many requests I could do :S
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 22:01
oh lord
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 22:01
but 200/s sounds doable
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 22:02
Hmm. I guess, assuming each request is about 1KB round-trip (both sending and receiving combined) it'd be only about 11MB/s. Any gigabit server could do that..
Er, wait, no, gigabit allows for 125MB/s...Shit, any 100Mb server could do that
loadtest looks like an npm module that could test it, but I'm not sure I want to XD
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Jun 09 2017 22:06
:P
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 22:06
I'mma see how much I can loadtest my own server instead
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 22:13
not much :P
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 22:13
Connecting to www.gw2oracle.com (www.gw2oracle.com)|144.217.40.136|:443... failed: Network is unreachable.
that is the correct answer
some really weird routing configuration is screwing with it
traceroute to 144.217.40.136 (144.217.40.136), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
connect: Permission denied
what
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 22:15
haha
sounds like you need to install freebsd
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Jun 09 2017 22:15
no permission to do ping or traceroute?
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 22:15
eearslya@chimera ~ $ ping 144.217.40.136
Do you want to ping broadcast? Then -b
w-what
well guess I'm not loadtesting my server
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Jun 09 2017 22:20
OVH doesn't like routing back to itself
Maybe it's because 136 is the first address in the subnet..usually reserved for the network ID
loadtest -c 10 --rps 200 https://api.guildwars2.com/v2 someone braver than me