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8th
Aug 2017
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 09:53
btw, materials got relocated for the ingame UI
is this also in the API?
(someone with game acces (@work now), does the ingame UI compare to http://windwarrior.github.io/GW2MaterialHeatmap/ )
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 10:18
It doesn't, your page looks like the way it was ingame prior to the Update.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 12:56
:fire:
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Aug 08 2017 12:56
:fire_engine:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 12:56
API is unreachable, game is apparently down
did ncsoft rip or something?
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 12:58
:hamster: :hamburger:
(its also 6 AM in bellevue, great moment for servers to die)
literally everything is down btw, also arena.net
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 13:03
yes
that's why i said, did "ncsoft rip or something"? :P
the servers are ncsoft's right?
Wildstar and Blade & Soul are also down
(both NCSoft)
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 13:14
ncsoft forgot to pay their hosting bill
:')
that would be hilarious and very disturbing at the same time
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 13:18
well, i did find out that my bot exposes the API key whenever the server is just completely unavailable lol
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 13:20
welp, @QuagganBooOOoot appears to do the same…
!rank
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 13:20
the error gets passed to the message directly, without filtering it
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Aug 08 2017 13:21
Oah! Quaggan couldn't connect to the GW2 Api (Error: request to https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/account?access_token=E629A925-9626-8545-892F-D9D78D999E73E3D07F9E-B031-4794-9B04-14D14A9CB885 failed, reason: connect ETIMEDOUT 64.25.47.51:443).
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 13:21
yup, same here
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 13:25
simple fix, put the access token in the headers :P
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 13:25

alright cool, i got a local version working:

request to https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/account/home/cats?access_token=[REMOVED] failed, reason: connect EAGAIN 64.25.47.51:443 - Local (0.0.0.0:50397)

eh, i have an issue with that
it's @queicherius's library that's handling the API stuff :D
might have to do a PR then
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 13:26
Authorization: Bearer {{yourtoken}}
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 13:27
doesn't work for ajax requests
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 13:27
rip
well, for node it does, so there should be an optional parameter then whenever you create the gw2api object
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 13:28
well, having the api key in logs isn't bad
we probably shouldn't pass the raw error to the user
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 13:29
server is back up now
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 13:30
if you use fetch() you can include headers
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 13:31
that will still cause a CORS preflight request
which the api server can't handle
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 13:32
:(
the API just ignores all OPTIONS requests?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 13:34
I think it was some error
spot the reasoning flaw
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 13:36
LOL
oh well, i'm waiting for @lye to come back in office :D
he probably knows what the heck happened :smile:
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 13:38
this morning there was also a glitch with the api and the tp
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 13:38
i bet someone pressed the big red button
and the data centre shut down
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 13:39
was trying to buy gems for gold and it just stuck on the please wait screen
but that only lasted about 10 minutes
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 13:39
I think @lye walks into office, just to see it burn
turns around
walks to the coffee machine
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 13:40
"at least now i can finish my game at home"
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 13:40
pondering his existence
(my joke got reordered by bad internet, rip)
then accepts his fate, and feeds the hamster that is running this game
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 13:42

@lye's last blog entry:

Has it really been over a week
Because wow time goes by too quickly these days.

3 weeks ago
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 13:49
on an unrelated note, this outage was actually more successful with bringing down the servers than the ddos a while back, haha
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 13:59
yep, sending OPTIONS to api.guildwars2.com gives you a page not found
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 14:15

:point_up: 8. August 2017 15:36

pretty sure this is the kind of people who voted for trump and now complain about losing healthcare

BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 14:29
i'm guessing patch delayed? :D
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 14:47
not only guild wars though, wildstar, b&s etc. are also affected it seems
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 14:49
ew
image.png

I think @lye walks into office, just to see it burn

https://media.giphy.com/media/MMian6YdStxUk/giphy.gif

smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 14:55
why does gitter stretch gifs btw?
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:07
omg even gw1 seems down
what is happening D:
i can't even remember when i saw this dialog the last time
image.png
and when gw1 is down, it's really bad i guess
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:10
yes, it has been mentioned a few times that basically everything related to ncsoft is dead :P
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:11
(i didn't bother to read all of the 99+ previous messages on here :D)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:11
:D
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:13
i could drive down to FFM and see if the datacenter is on fire or so :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:16
this server outage caused my bot to really go rip on several locations
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 15:17
bot? what bot?
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:18
discord i guess
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:18
yes
so many unhandledpromiserejections
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 15:18
do explain please, i'm quite unfamiliar with discord but people are demanding taco integration :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:18
reason: no try catch around an API call
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:19
xmlhttprequest + callback... good times :D
in a previous commit, it did not have the try catch
so there were a lot of unhandledpromiserejectionwarnings in my log :(
that code basically checks if a person is still in the guild or not
and either adds or removes a discord role
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 15:21
oh cool
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:21
and i was looking at the wrong file for 2 hours...
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 15:22
oh jeez
thinking about bots, I hope blackgate's TS bot doesn't go apeshit again
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:27
lol
STRIP ALL THE PERMISSIONS
thankfully i coded my bot in a way that if the request to check guild membership fails, it won't change anything to the roles
although, i actually don't know what happens if a person deletes their api key; i think it won't do anything either... ehm
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 15:29
yeah
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:29
probably need to check for that error message separately
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 15:29
the bot owner claimed the last time the API went full :fire: mode, it was actually returning 403s instead of 404s so I dunno
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 15:29
the moment @Archomeda realises that he doesnt have enough tests
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:29
not enough?
i have none :P
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 15:29
test all the edge cases
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:29
too many but not reasonable ones? :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:30
i figured writing tests in javascript was too much of an effort with the current state of the bot
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 15:31
well none is apparantly not good enough
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:31
when you've written all the tests (and therefore have rewritten half of your codebase) you'd say it's worth it :P
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:32
i've rewritten my code too many times already
don't want to do it again
it's like that comic that was posted here a week ago(?)
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 15:32
the unfinished houses?
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:33
for serious, tests will make you find flaws you'd never think of
go, write em :D
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 15:33
the problem with tests is they're still limited by our imagination somewhat
it's the classic problem of being unable to test your own code because you use it properly
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:34
(btw. you've got time, GW2 is DOWN!)
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 15:34
and don't think about how to use it wrong
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 15:34
just formally prove your software, like they did with ariane 5 <<link because gitters MD parser is stupid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_(spacecraft) >>
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 15:34
mutation testing is a fun thing I found
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:34
ok, fair, @Eearslya
also, the rubberduck is a quite good idea!
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 15:35
it basically fucks with your code by replacing parameters with null, removing lines entirely, returning different values, returning nothing...
and if your tests still pass after that, you've got a hole
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:36
hehe
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 15:37
when I learned to program I started safeguarding all methods with null checks
like everything, even if it couldnt possibly get null
nowadays, any method that could potentially return null is banned in my code, and returns Optional<T> instead
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:38
that was a great improvement in php7 wth scalar type hints which allows to check against if($value) in most cases
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:39
anyone wanna bet how and/or when the patch is delivered? :D
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 15:41
the how bet is easy, streams of TCP packets
when, probably before the end of the universe
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 15:42
@Archomeda btw what are you using to write code? an IDE or an editor?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 15:59
IDE
webstorm for javascript
for c# and c++ i use visual studio
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:00
ha, so why don't you use the integrated testing/coverage and all in WS? it's even fun to use :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:01
i don't use that much of the features in any IDE really :P
plus, i had tests before
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:01
that's... your fault then.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:01
but... after refactoring i removed them
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:02
I'm sure there's a lot that RubyMine does that I'm not taking advantage of
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:02
i know, i need to look more into what the IDE can do
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:02
I love the way it's got emacs keybinds though
some of the code formatting options irk me though
and there's no way to change them
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:03
i couldn't live without phpstorm anymore
i even use it as text editor replacement, so comfy it is
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:08
someone make a js version of that plz :D
https://github.com/codemasher/vagrant-phpstorm-box
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:10
most anet employees should be in office right now, right? :P
@lye... how's your morning?
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:13
I would imagine something like this
also
coughtwittercough
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:15
that text is literally 5 times as large as the text here -_-
thanks gitter
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:15
when do we start a clone of gitter?
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 16:16
with better embedding? please
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:16
eh... you go ahead, i'll be right behind you
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:16
erm
this time it's not gitter's fault
it's imgur
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:16
I mean it sort of is
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 16:16
you#re right, that pic is enormous
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:16
who lets an embed take 100% of its parent
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:17
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 16:17
that pic is embedded in original size though
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:17
why would you ever want that though
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:17
yeah, I'm just saying it shouldn't be
max-width: 50%
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:17
then again, it resizes images from the clipboard to half the size
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 16:18
heresy :rage:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:18
that's because it apparently makes a thumbnail first
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:18
image.png
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:18
just click edit, you'll see what i mean
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:18
ikr
and that's the weirdest thing
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:19
i don't know why gitter can't make a thumbnail out of embedded images
or rather, i don't know why it hasn't been implemented
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:21
still true though
"In case you missed it..." twitter pls
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:23
i barely use twitter
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:23
i got used to the messed up timeline
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:23
I don't use it, per se, I just get news from it
and news is only useful when twitter doesn't show me 2-week-old tweets
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 16:24
tweetdeck has chronological tweets...
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:24
see, now that's..a fairly reasonable size embed
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:24
i know but i hate tweetdeck :D
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:24
I can force twitter to do chronological but it requires a second refresh XP
for some reason every other load of twitter puts "In case you missed it" on the page
logic
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:25
i get it like all the time
even though i've always one tab open with the home timeline
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:26
I just refresh until it goes away
and then never reload
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 16:27
my personal button on the gw2 subreddit grew larger
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:27
my surface really doesn't like twitter, though..maybe it's because the page gets so big after a while, but it lags behind while scrolling
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:28
JavaScript(TM)
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 16:28
in the apple tag menu (used to be the herald menu) there was always a link to my dev tracker thing
it still amazes me how useful that one-weekend-coding-project still is
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:44
lol, even Anno2070 is down
wtf
why do they maintenance when ncsoft is down???
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:56
LOL
:wave: :fire:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 16:57
:wave:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 16:58
:wave: :fire: makes me think of https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LAPo1dgrHms/hqdefault.jpg
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 16:59
"I'll be back!"
(maybe)
in other news: the gw2 download servers seem to work fine as a friend reports
the download servers are just cloudfront
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:03
that's what i told him :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:03
cdn ftw
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:04
but who knows if it's a dns issue or so
it's not a DNS issue
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:04
(but in that case it would have been resolved already)
^^
the path of fire was so lit the datacenter caught fire
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:05
like... literally on fire? öö
no, euphemistically on fire
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:05
heh
omg, we're 3 in ts and trying to find a game we could play together THAT IS NOT DOWN
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:07

i bet someone pressed the big red button
and the data centre shut down

we had one of those at the datacenter I worked at

just sitting there
taunting you
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:07
lmao
@Eearslya that button evacuates the oxygen in the room
you really do not want to press that button
@codemasher play path of exile
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:09
nah it was just a power shutoff..we actually had a water-based fire suppression, surprisingly enough
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:09
gmmmm
XD
water-based fire suppression in 2k1x lul
the last DC I used had an axe for power cutoff
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:10
oh
you'd have to axe multiple lines in that DC though
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:10
i guess when i start path of exile their servers go down
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:11
I never did actually find out how the button worked
I mapped out the entire electrical layout and never thought of it
heh
it's entirely mechanical and connects to a series of axes
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:11
I mean, it was pretty far away from the actual ATS and UPS room
XD
press
CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG
I did get to press another big red button while I was there
a big red button that force-starts one of our cooling units
that's a pretty cool button
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:14
lye pls
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:14
:joy:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:16
we had two cooling units that alternated themselves, but one was down for maintenance and overridden off. the system tried to swap to it, and turned off the active one, leaving both of them off. slamming that button was exactly as satisfying as I'd hoped
omg
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:17
how do you get twitch viewers..
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:17
it..embeds the live feed
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:17
well, just post it in gitter as an embed, and it will autoplay
LOL thanks gitter D:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:17
gitter
this is like the worst of the worst embeds
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:18
better than a gif tho
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:19
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:19
this game is coming to switch soon though so I am curious
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:19
heh
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:19
I've heard mixed things
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:20
"It's not like minecraft"
i guess
"it's exactly like minecraft but with legos"
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:21
both of those yes
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:21
Lego is the original minecraft
lego minecraft is the original minecraft
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:21
I'm more interested in what you do though
because open-ended "do what you want and make your own adventure" games never interest me
I need goals
Lego Worlds is a sandbox video game which allows players to build a world made up of Lego bricks. The player is rewarded for collecting objects spread across the map with "studs", an in-game currency. The player can build using the items they have encountered. Players can create their own world by using predefined Lego structures or using the "brick-by-brick editor tool".
@Eearslya get to level 100 in path of exile
I don't know why you guys are waffling about games to play when there's path of exile
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:23
I want Stardew Valley and Skyrim on Switch
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 17:24
Is Guild Wars 1 down too?
pretty much all NCSoft games are down in EU right now
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 17:24
Aww man
Thanks NCSoft
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:24
what, only EU?
yep, NA is fine
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:24
...
how do i force logging in through NA? :P
without transferring anything ofc ;)
heh
I-I guess you make a new account :|
it'll be back online eventually :<
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:27
lol, gw2 is erroring out with "The code you entered is invalid."
that's an interesting error for a datacenter that's offline :P
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 17:28
Hey, at least the API still works
(in DFW)
(for NA accounts)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:28
not for EU
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:28
@codemasher I think the stream is..echoing?
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 17:28
Pfft, EU shmEU
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:29
has NA been okay the whole time then?
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:29
i haven't checked the sound settings tbh :D
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:30
So..is there any kind of goal? Or is it just entirely sandbox-creative?
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:31
there is some kind of goal to get 100 gold bricks
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:31
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:31
after that it's more like sandbox stuff
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:31
i hope the data isn't corrupted
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:32
damn, my dragon is gone D:
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 17:32
I love how nice a generic service announcement looks
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:32
also, "this morning"
for PST yeah
it was around 3 PM my time
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 17:33
RIP DC
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 17:33
Yeah, it wouldn't be 'morning' for anyone affected by it
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 08 2017 17:33
@lye did you clear another cache? :D
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 17:34
lol
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:36
@codemasher multiple overlapping scream of horror
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:37
it's funny how every other ncsoft game has Ops twitter accounts, and gw2 doesn't have one :D
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:37
damn, why does that water stay there D:
how do i remove water? halp!
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 17:41
Use a towel
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 17:41
or buckets if it has got that bad
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:41
or a sponge!
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:41
if it's anything like minecraft
build up through it
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 17:42
mmmm. xmas came early this year :)
http://imgur.com/kQ11PQ1
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:42
@lye i guess the patch is delayed because of the power outage in frankfurt?
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 17:42
oh nice @BoyC ! I just got my email
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:43
not high enough @codemasher
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 17:43
image.png
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:43
:D
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 17:43
a couple weeks back i randomly walked into a lego store and got confronted with the fact that a shipment is coming later, so i did the only reasonable thing :D
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:43
:ok_hand:
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:44
omg that's really weird
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 17:44
oh nice, I've had mine on backorder for weeks D:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 17:44
seems to me like it follows Minecraft's water physics
there's a water "source" block that has to get destroyed
so what are the gold bricks and how to get?
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 17:45
wait, imma start a new game

did you clear another cache?

@ptolstoi this isn't my fault this time :<

i guess the patch is delayed because of the power outage in frankfurt?

@Archomeda I think so yeah

Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 17:56
https://wvwintel.com/#2003 hahaha will all the objectives be upgraded when the servers are back online? :D
not sure
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 17:59
is the DC a colo thing or fully owned and operated by ANet?
no clue
it'd be NCSoft though, not us
pretty sure it's just a couple of cages
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:00
I'd assume it's a large multi-purpose datacentre
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:00
oh true
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:00
I doubt they'd have their own DC
eh, small-scale DCs aren't too hard to set up
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 18:00
probably hosted at a l3 site
there's basements in a lot of buildings in cities that are both unused and have fiber connections
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:01
They're not with zColo. I checked.
(That's the DC company I worked for)
do they have reasonable prices on transit?
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:02
asking for a friend? ;D
mostly just me
I wouldn't mind renting a 10U cabinet
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:02
Zayo's the one that does fiber connections, and I never did get too familiar with their pricing
oh
cabinets? uh
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:02
last time I had someone press the button was also a aircon backup failure. the room was overheating
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:04
There's some interesting stories on /r/TalesFromTechSupport about server rooms catching on fire
I'm not sure I'd want to put my hardware in a DC that didn't have gaseous fire suppression
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:04
we had a few half/third/quarter cabs in the back of our Tukwila DC, but..I can't remember the pricing
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:04
i just realized why changing /etc/hosts wasn't affecting my discord bot
the pricing is almost always "call us"
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:05
container? ;p
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:05
that bot is running in a docker instance, and..... yes
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 18:05
last time our sysadmin got an sms from our DC telling hime our domain controller reported 91°C CPU temperature and went into shutdown :fire:
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:05
I wouldn't like to be on the DC floor when the gaseous fire suppression kicked in
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:06
hit the deck, crawl fast
xD
the DC I was in before had an audible thing that went off (supposedly) a minute or so before the fire suppression turned on
you're supposed to hold your breath and gtfo
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:06
Not gonna lie, that's pretty scary
yeah but it kills fires pretty handily
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:07
no idea how our DC worked
(also people but hey)
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:07
I don't believe it's deadly, I think it'll just knock you unconscious
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:07
drop everything and run for your life
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:07
we never had to use it
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 18:07
and i nearly cannot hear the fire alarm at my desk. last time we had a simulation HR called me and asked where my departement was...
@rikkuness turns out O2 deprivation is pretty bad for you
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:07
yeah I mean it's less than ideal
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:07
If it knocks you out, I wouldn't like to sit around in it for ages
I'm only going off what the rep explained to me, so I'm not sure if that's how it worked
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:07
some newer ones don't actually displace o2
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:07
having no O2... yeah sure it's less than ideal... hehe
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:07
rip
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:08
probably still harmful to breath though
I really liked that DC; our office was in the same building and you could hear them test the backup generators every tuesday
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:09
we tested our gens at least once a month
those things roar
yeah they do
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:09
2MW gens are no joke
piece of mind is more valuable than quiet
case in point: today's power failure
that really should never happen
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:09
we had one power failure while I worked there
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:10
I guess there's no real DR plan other than wait to come back online
did it not automatically cut over to the batteries?
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:10
a UPS battery bank blew up and caused a ground fault all the way up the chain
oof
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:10
(which also should never happen)
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 18:10
ouch
yeah the circuits should be isolated or something
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:10
That sounds like really bad engineering
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:10
there was some mistake in the grounding, I forget what
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 18:10
insulation is for the weak :rage:
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:11
isolated, not insulated
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:11
I've also had a UPS fuse explode when it took the load of everything
i've heard some scary stories about batteries not being maintained
and like. leaking.
in a datacenter.
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:11
it's like these are common occurances
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:11
the night tech at the DC had to flip a 1200A breaker back on
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 18:12
1200A oh my god
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:12
Oh jesus...
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:12
..or was is 2000A?
it was big
and scary
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:12
That's a scary amount of power
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:12
he had to get in full electricity protective gear
I don't think I'd distinguish between 2000A and 1200A
DC techs are crazy people
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 18:13
Just like databases 1, 2, a lot
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:13
I guess if something went wrong, you'd be gone far before you realised it
I was the weekend DC tech
he had to pull that lever about 4 times, then STEP ASIDE and hit the green button
@Eearslya just like the ones in jurassic park
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:13
in case it arced
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 18:14
Good thing the average DC doesn't have dinosaurs
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:14
Jobs I wouldn't do for a million pounds...
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:14
oh I love those ones you have to like pump a few times
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:14
he said the smell was one of the worst parts
I mean, a million though
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:14
burning capacitor bank
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:19
also, RE with users deleting api keys and how my bot handles it... well at least for the guild it shouldn't matter
it uses a guild leader api key to repeatedly check if the player is still in the guild
and the account name is cached
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:20
also the gw2 launcher deletes your saved password if it get's told it's wrong by the server
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:22
not really
just relaunch
it clears the password field, but it's still saved
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:22
it's a feature not a bug :p
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:22
login button is disabled
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 18:23
how does it even save the password
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:23
until i put it back in again
it's a minor problem though. not as bad as removing everyones permissions in ts
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:25
well, it's a gw2 client feature
whenever the client fails to log in, especially whenever it thinks it's the wrong password, it will clear that field and you have to type your password again
but, restarting it will put it back in again ;)
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:26
so it's just that I typed it back in again that it's now in this state?
until i can login again
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:26
probably yeah
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:26
urgh
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:27
i think because you typed it in manually, it actually clears and/or saves it to your local.dat
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:27
I think i get it now. I don't know if I'll remember that the next time though
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:27
haha :D
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:27
I copy pasta mine in from LastPass
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:27
i made that mistake once
never again
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:27
yeah me too
but my lastpass I have set to forget my master password
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:28
I've accidentally typed my password into Discord without realising it had focus more times than I care to mention
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:28
and I don't trust myself having it in the clipboard
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:28
I bought me one of those Yubikeys
it's rad as heck
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:29
I've got one. they're cool, but get annoying if you have to keep using it
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:29
yeah true, I put mine in when I boot the computer then after that it's logged in
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:30
yubikeys are nice, but yeah, it's annoying when it's sitting in your coat pocket across the room XD
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:30
Do people even play Wildstar anymore?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:31
keepass clears the clipboard after 10 seconds by default ;)
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:31
I mean I'd like to, I just didn't fully get immersed :(
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:31
wait, wildstar EU is resolved
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:31
it's a beautiful game, the combat is glorious
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:31
what about the rest D:
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:32
I used to use keepass, but I thought it'd be safer keeping my password with the nsa
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:32
I finally caved into lastpass, too
browser integration is pretty nice
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:33
yeah, main selling point for me was ease of use in both Safari on my mac and then Chrome on my desktop
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 08 2017 18:34
I can recommend 1password
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 18:35
i can recommend pen & paper :D
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 08 2017 18:35
I don't trust any one saving my passwords in the cloud
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 18:35
1password and yubikeys here
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:35
post it notes on your monitor
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:35
post its under the keyboard, nobody ever looks there ;)
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 08 2017 18:35
for that I have to open my laptop :D
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:36
put them under your laptop then
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 18:36
get a labelmaker device and glue them onto your monitor :+1:
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:36
I love label machines
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:36
just use "password" hard to forget
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:36
it's the best part of working in IT
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 08 2017 18:36
yeah... but sometimes you have to include numbers....
and special characters :D
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 18:37
password123!
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 08 2017 18:37
sold
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 18:37
uppercase is sometimes required too
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 18:37
insert hunter2 joke
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:37
Password123!
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 18:37
heh
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:37
P@55w0rd
OP
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:38
our default password through my college courses was P@ssw0rd
"what's the password?" "oh, it's p-at"
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:38
when i was a tech support scrub, there was a password policy that meant people had to change their password every month. people just appended the month to their password
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:38
Yeah. If you force too many password resets, you get bad passwords
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 08 2017 18:39
when i was a tech support scrub, there was a password policy that meant people had to change their password every month. people just appended the month to their password
yep can confirm :D
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 18:39
yeah, i have that same password rule at work. just a password with an increasing number in the middle :sheep:
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:39
company I work for does that and also claims login to their admin site over HTTP is fine if you use the VPN
JamEngulfer
@JamEngulfer
Aug 08 2017 18:39
I like the system of enforcing password resets at a rate inversely proportional to your password complexity
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:39
sure I'll manage my bank details over HTTP :thumbsup:
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 18:40
@rikkuness sounds great, no reason to be worried
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 08 2017 18:40
why not telnet? no javascript code execution (tm)
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:41
I refused :D I get told off every week for not doing timesheets and putting holidays in, fuck em
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 18:41
the password shuffle right
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:41
how hard is it to throw a cert on a web server ffs, even just reverse proxy it, no excuse hah
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 18:41
every time it forces you to change, you rotate through 5 temporary passwords to clear any caches
and then go back to the one you had
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:42
minimum password age
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 18:42
if that makes you use a password manager to manage those 5 passwords, it's a win
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 18:42
ahrg not again XD
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 18:42
twitch autoplay
kay gitter
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 18:42
anyway, saves you the click :D
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 18:45
well i suppose the patch won't be out today then? :worried:
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:45
I made a web app for Wildstar before Wildstar launched, met the devs, got a sweet lanyard... then never played it
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 18:46
aww
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 18:47
arenanet please save me from having to grind overwatch summer game skins :-1:
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:47
dude sent me a massive SQL dump of the closed beta data files to see if I could get info from them, I'd never even heard of the game then hah
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 18:48
wiki's just picked up speed, i can't imagine the game servers will take much longer.
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:49
well... they do run Windows ;)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:53
wait, they sent you a SQL dump... why? :D
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:53
dude ran a community site and wanted to be first to market with a skills database sorta website, knew I liked poking data haha
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:54
oh haha
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 18:55
Why was the game data in SQL?
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:56
that's how it's stored in the client! idk if that's still the case, that's what it was in the beta at least
idk if it's sqlite or some proprietary lib, idk
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 18:57
pretty sure that hasn't changed much since
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:57
doubt it would have been changed if it was in beta stage
sqlite would be the worst to have all of that data stored in
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 18:57
wildstar studio still works with the latest data files, so
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:58
i hope it's postgres :P
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 18:58
the servers for perpetuum were/are also based on sql
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 18:58
if it's postgres etc. it should be in the game license details
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 18:58
hmmm
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 18:59
gw1 still down btw
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 18:59
so is gw2 :p
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 19:03
perhaps it wasn't stored in sql looking back through my code... looks like maybe "generic relational tables".... I used some parser code to convert .tbl files into.sql
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 19:05
If its the Frankfurt data centre, is this outage just EU?
should be yeah
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 19:05
according to reddit yes
some NA accounts are affected as well, but very few
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 19:06
then I'm a tit for not realising that earlier and logging in on a different account
thanks.
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 19:07
btw, setting -authsrv to a us one doesn't work
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:07
nobody can play atm right?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 19:07
only EU can't play
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:08
oh ok
it'll be 2 hours since we last heard from arenanet soon...
i hope they didn't all die remotely from frankfurt :worried:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:09
@darthmaim i would imagine it's because our data is still stored in the EU datacenter, which is rip atm
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 19:09
probably something like that
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:09
@werdes plenty of activity on their twitter
John Carroll
@johncarroll
Aug 08 2017 19:09
otters don't help
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 19:10
it helps me!
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:10
put bogotter to work :smile:
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:11
@windwarrior i don't know how twitter works and their last post is from 19:26 CET. i'm pretty sure they're all dead
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:11
listening to music, all of a sudden it skips
I was like... heh this is not a record I am listening to
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 19:12
image.png
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:12
apparantly swear word :(
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 19:12
last tweet was 14m ago
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:12
yeah, clicking on tweets and replies should give you their activity
sadly, you need to have a twitter account -_-
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:13
@Archomeda oh thanks
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:18
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 19:20
the text is the same as in the wildstar tweet
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:21
that's with all their Ops accounts
probably managed by ncsoft employees
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:22
there is no ops account for gw2 is there
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:23
don't think so
arenanet as a company isn't like the other companies that have ncsoft as publisher
they act more independently i think
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:24
someone at anet is now busy putting that image together
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:24
lol
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:24
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:25
lucioball ranked queue in overwatch? man that'll be salt and burning rage
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:26
@lye, how does your api request graph look like now for the last 6h? :D
no data for FRA since ... the DC isn't on
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:27
oh, there's just no graph, okay then :D
i should've known
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:27
ascii representation of the graph: |________|
a bunch of lines just cut off on all the graphs
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:28
there seems to be a period in the spikes
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:28
what's the second drop?
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:29
or is that just me trying to find patterns that arent there
context reload
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:29
ah
@windwarrior that's pretty normal
might be GC-related, not sure
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:29
oh right this is memory
yeah
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:30
yeah sounds like GC
at around 2GB I force a context reload
there's a leak somewhere in the API codebase and that's my solution
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:30
lol
all the lines dropping means that the context reloaded due to a code/config update
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:31
we - at my study accociation - had a bug where apache would randomly crash at 6 am
(a push to any web product causes that)
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:31
since I am a student, we would only find out at 11
which was kinda meh
sounds like a job for cron :>
and/or your supervisor of choice
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:31
so, at some point we wrote a script that poked the website every 5 minutes, and if it seemed down kicked it till it was up again
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:32
sounds like the issue i have with my firewall + docker; where docker randomly loses internet connection around 6 am :P
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:32
what, no image? D:
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 19:32
woo systemd
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:32
RIOT
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:32
thats a different game company
good, release!
to the skill rota spreadsheets
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:33
right now, i'm just tempted to make an NA account
if you buy an expansion on it you don't have to level to 80
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:34
I have an extra HoT account somewhere in my mailbox
and you can buy gold with gems to get full ascended really quick :sparkles:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:34
i still have to buy pof for my actual account :P
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 19:34
uhh, the forums down too? D:
i thought the forums were in DFW
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 19:35
probably a load balancer
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:35
maybe the reddit hug of death
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:35
nah just do the raids on your exo gear
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 19:35
yea, took like 3 reloads now
lol I can't load the forums either
whelp
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:35
ascended gear in 3 hours
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 19:35
/shrug
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Aug 08 2017 19:35
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:35

A message from Mike O’Brien:

This morning we experienced a power failure at our European datacenter, and unfortunately it knocked out some of our equipment. We’re currently rebuilding. In the meantime, accounts that connect to European worlds are unable to login. Some North American accounts with ties to the European account database are also unable to login.

We’re working on restoring networking equipment. Once we do, we’ll know whether we can safely bring up databases and game servers. At this time we don’t have an estimated time to restore service.

Today is release day. We’re going to go ahead and post the release, although much of the world won’t be able to access it until service is restored. I know that’s far from ideal. But we have only three days left to prepare for the demo, and with that schedule, it’s important that we get the release out today so we have time to deal with any issues that arise. I appreciate your understanding.

Mo

Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:35
probably death hug now
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:35
image.png
NOTES
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:36
man the quaggan bot needs forum integration
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 19:36
@werdes create an issue (or PR!) for that: https://github.com/QuagganBooOOoot/gitter-bot/issues
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:37
now i'll have to learn about git D:
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 19:37
you should do that anyway :)
surprised no one actually posted it yet
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 19:38
@werdes git is fun
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:38
also, someone probably heard me when i said RIOT about having no image
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:38
yeah i should, but i rarely use anything other than git commit and git push
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 19:39
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:39
yes :smile:
hence me saying that someone heard me
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:41
you can now switch off quip and dreamer
apparently
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:43
rip @rikkuness I posted it already :(
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:45
i suppose anet's hardware is a lot more complicated than wildstar's, bns's and mxm's
:fire: PANIC, EU now no longer exists https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/wvw/matches D:
hehe
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 19:47
new launcher splash is pretty cool
bye rytlock
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:48
oh wow
that looks more than just a reskin
it looks pretty neat
it's gonna take a while for me to get used to it though
these harsh colors
it's quite an update wow
it's almost as if the expansion is already upon us!
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 19:53
oh yeah my bad @windwarrior xD
it's pretty!
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 19:56
holy hell!
NO MORE DREAMER NIGHING! \o/
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:57
no mentions of wvw update?
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 19:57
@lye tell whoever was responsible for that that they have my eternal and undying gratitude :D
:(
lye @lye stops wanting the dreamer
there's always quip I guess
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:58
quip can also be disabled
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:58

@werdes

[
  "1-1",
  "1-2",
  "1-3",
  "1-4"
]

wvw matches endpoint returns this; EU won't have wvw back anymore ;P

BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 19:58
same for that as well but that never bothered me
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 19:58
Mute Projectiles Only: Unique item sounds originating from projectile attacks (such as Quip and the Dreamer) will be muted, and all others will play normally.
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:58
@Archomeda i guess that was aimed at @lye and i wooshed in?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:59
nope, that was directed to you since you mentioned "no mentions of wvw update" :P
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 19:59
oh
that's not good then :smile:
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 19:59
still no login servers but I do have a shiny new client
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 19:59
that's something
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:00
"you can't play, but look, this non functional client is now very pretty"
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:00
there was a reddit post earlier today about someone staring at the beta client because he got dc'd and couldn't log back in again :P
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:00
those notes aren't complete are they? there must be more warrior trait changes than just two
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:00
and mentioning about how pretty that login screen looked like
it seems that's what's going on right now too :D
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 20:01
I thought the whole WvW regions and gliders thing was today
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:02
Anet_BenP on reddit: It is. It looks like it got cut off in the paste bin.
wait that doesn't clarify anything
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 20:03
"you were playing scepter/wh ele, thats fine, but phoenix, that one skill that was super worth, eh [delete]"
and once again my preferable ele build gets removed :(
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:04
that multi hit "bug" ?
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 20:06
yeah
phoenix completely destroyed mobs sometimes
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:07
sounds useful, better annihilate
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 20:08
good way to kill yourself to gorses retal
but good thing anet didnt change the (air) scepter auto
that is a sure fire way to kill yourself to retal
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 20:09
there's always a fun side to an outage... UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: Unhandled promise rejection
my bad
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:10
welp, now all the missing warrior changes are on the right side of the first post. shit's messed up yo
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 20:10
I have half the warrior changes :P
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 20:18
image.png
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 20:19
hm. that download. shaman's gonna have a looooong night.
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 20:19
here's the Lego Worlds Turorial playthrough for those who consider buying it link
gitter, where is my pastebin embed?
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 20:21
lmao
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:22
somebody just told me it's 3gb. i have a 3k ADSL connection.. fml
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 20:22
it's called "gitter", not "pastebin*ter"
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:22
twitchter?
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 20:22
heh
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:22
you know, that patch broke my autoparser
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 20:23
just use gist and you'll get your viewport-sized embed
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:23
some weird stuff in the exe that referenced a negative pointer; no clue how it works but apparently i was missing a < 0 check or something
at least i got something to look at when stuff's down
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 20:23
3k ADSL D: that's horrible man
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:24

gw2 strings:

Diffing results...
 - Insertions: 184,672 lines
 - Deletions: 172,360 lines

heh

Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:24
german telecom pledged to upgrade my village to 100k this year. it's august, nothing has happened.
i'm rapidly losing hope
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 20:24
damn man :( and here's me moaning about my 100Mbps not being the 200 I pay for
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:25
you know how painful it is to see a 34.5gb doom update? that would take 2 whole days...
i'll quit complaining now
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 20:26
duh, i had 384k DSL until last year
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:28
dsl light. ouch
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:28
MapWvWDesertHome4 jeez, that map got so many revisions in its lifespan
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:28
@Archomeda for good though, the first iteration was unplayable
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:28
MapWvWCenterGliding probably EB
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:28
remember the oasis event that fucked the whole map?
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 20:29
still nobody likes to go there haha
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:30
MapWvWRedHomeLake01gliding, MapWvWCenterGliding MapValleyArchKiel, MapWvWDesertHome4, MapDesertOasis are new i think :D
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:30
well maybe with gliding? the only hinderance was the abominal pathing around the map
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:30
but yeah, the oasis event was kind of... well unoptimized, and not really worth it
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:31
MapDesertOasis should be the map for the weekend beta
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:31
yeah
but nothing about the other maps
at least not grouped under the manifests; so that's good
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:33
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGuzCA7UIAAaXA1.jpg we have the image. something's telling me that text on such a vibrant image is a bad idea. just my design sense tingling..
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:33
i think rubi mentioned that it was the communications team quickly putting this image together
so, it probably didn't go through designers etc
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 20:34
yeah there was a tweet suggesting it was just an image laying around they slapped some text on hah
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:34
oh damn it

i saw

All Season 3 Current Events achievements have been unhidden, with the exception of those that cannot be progressed without specific Living Story chapters or expansions.

and i hoped i could see if the 1 achievement that apparently no one has, has been unhidden too

but of course, my EU account's inaccessible on gw2e
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 20:35
:\
i'm curious about those as well
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:35
so i can't check the achievement panel easily
i'm just reading the patch notes btw :P
hehe
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 20:36
nothing on reddit about them yet either
tempest got hit hard
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:36
seems a lot of balance around those current events
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 20:36
thankfully i already have my leg armor :P
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:36
to be expected
wasn't tempest supposed to be support? and weaver more damage orientated? at least from what i've read
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 20:37
weaver isn't out yet tho :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:37
yes, so it's gonna be a tough 2 months
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:37
well tempest was a straight up upgrade over vanilla ele
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 20:38
we still run both in WvW, vanilla as frontline D/F
support backline tempest
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:39
NA?
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 20:46
hmm pretty long outage for gw2
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:46
this might even be the longest
at least for EU
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 20:46
ever? :o
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 20:46
yeah when a data center goes down with some actual hw failure...
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:47
there's one other case when stuff went down for 7 or 8 hours i think
on a release day
oh well
i have the time to read the patch notes properly this time haha
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 20:48
the longest outage in gw1 history so far i can tell
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:49
well, apparently it's going to be rip for /v2/skills already with the new ammo system :P
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 20:51
as long as the icons are up I won't care :P
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:53
also, can someone fix the patch notes forum post :D
i have the same issue as @windwarrior
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 20:55
welp, there's a bunch of broken item names
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:56
i yelled too soon
new post lol
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 20:56
mfw people are playing the game and getting new items and I'm still not even 50% done patching
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 20:57
good thing the servers are still ded
or at least in eu
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:57
i'm done patching... but... i can't do anything else :D
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 20:57
yeah I can't get in
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 20:57
also, seems skins are slow once again to appear on the API
oh nvm
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 20:57
mfw people can access the api
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 20:57
I just clicked the wrong thing
derp
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:58
@darthmaim just connect to DFW
64.25.40.51
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 20:58
well, api works for items and stuff
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:58
oh, in that sense
things that are tied to your account are inaccessible yea
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:58
wow, they really absolutely murdered DPS power berserker with this patch
Primal Burst: These skills now count as level-1 bursts for the purposes of traits that scale on adrenaline level. ouch
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:59
what really
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 20:59
berserkers power got changed to
its an effect now
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:59
although with the new berserker's power that would've been a flat 21% damage increase ever
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 20:59
and since you can spam your f1 in berserk
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:59
yep
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 20:59
https://api.guildwars2.com/v2/items/84101?lang=fr wtf, the french name has a newline character
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:59
well, the old one would've been 20%
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 20:59
sad however for adrenal health
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 20:59
it was 10% - 15% - 20%
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 21:00
that was when adrenaline was full wasn't it?
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:00
I am still a bit salty about hitting ele again, but not hitting cthief
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:00
haha @Darqam that's amazing
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:00
finally there were three or even four ele builds to play in raids
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:01
all the other languages don't
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:01
and ele was not universally the best anymore
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:01
so idk what happened with fr
oh shit, new prefix
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 21:01
there are (were?) hundreds of fr items with no breaking spaces
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:02
@ChieftainAlex fix template so it accepts new prefix, kthx
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 08 2017 21:02
and I seem to remember newlines in item names
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 21:02
http://i.imgur.com/eAoMruh.png holy shit, that new map size
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 21:02
oh wow
@lye reminder to regenerate the tiles :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:03
oh i see
the world map is bigger now
the API has the new dimensions already
but the tiles aren't there XD
image.png
for comparison ^
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 21:05
that's the full map? man we've grown
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:05
yup
that's what the api gives us
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:06
kralk makes a nice turn somewhere in the desert
NO I am going here
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 21:06
now i really want to see shaman's updated historical guide
going right would be cooler now - Kralk, some time in the last 250 years
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 21:07
xD
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 21:07
WILL THERE BE DOA?
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:07
the empty space between DTop and Rata is annoying >.>
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:08
I honestly think they didnt feel like dealing with the branded again :'), just ... divert kralkatorrik a bit
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:08
Vengeful Hammers: Added a third hammer and reduced damage by 33% to preserve approximate damage per second. Changed the base function of this skill so you can no longer lose projectiles as a result of passing too close to uneven terrain. This skill has been unsplit from PvP, using the increased healing values in all game types. holy crap
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:09
I like how holy crap is in the quote
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:09
sorry ;)
so the PoF launcher is up
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:09
lol
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:09
fair game for new icons?
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:09
man my patching is taking ages
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:09
or wanna wait until beta
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 21:09
i like the launcher, although pink on black is risky
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:09
icons? you mean elite spec related?
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:09
if I see them in there, I'll tell you chieftain
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 21:09
I'm a fan of that combo
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 21:09
lolwhat? pvp split?
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:09
but we have most of them as screenshots anyway
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 21:10
hello gw1 xD
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:10
they will be in there dq
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:10
no no, PvP splits in GW2 are mostly numbers :)
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:10
downloaded the same patch last thursday
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:10
also I think thats very good of anet
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:10
ah ok
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:10
bleh :P
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:10
and, I also like that they unsplit skills too if they can!
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:10
@darqam which template was broken btw?
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:10
I'd say upload them, but up to you
prefix, there are new ones
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:10
10pm gotta cook I'll try later on the files
I did upload the training images earlier in the week ;)
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:11
purdy
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:12
weaver is going to be so cool
hype
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 21:20
next expansion i hope to get some weird weapon... rifle ele maybe... :D
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:21
they have all been announced already
oh next-netx
nevermind
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 21:21
yeah :D
now that the obvious sword is out of the way :)
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 21:22
Charrzooka ele meta
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 21:22
just without the ground clipping please :D
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 21:22
i'd be totally in for a totally new weapon. even if it's just spears on land
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:22
fun fact: charrzooka clips on ALL possible character configurations
BoyC
@BoyC
Aug 08 2017 21:23
should have named it clipzooka :D

reminder to regenerate the tiles

@codemasher ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:25
dimensions of tyria have changed ;)
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 21:25
:fire:
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Aug 08 2017 21:25
:fire_engine:
yeah yeah
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 21:25
reminder - DC is on fire
syncing live content now ;_;
@rikkuness not my problem :heart:
i don't do ops in this job thankfully
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 21:26
yeah I don't envy the person that does rn
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:26
    "continent_dims": [
      49152,
      49152
    ],
it was 32k something before i believe :D
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:26
well, not much anet can do about their datacenter losing power right
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 21:27
it's the bringing it all up cleanly part that's sketchy
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:27
yeah
we've been having issues with the network modules on our blade chassis failing
this caused us to lose some more and they're shuffling things around
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:28
that happened to the API right
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 21:28
I've been there :/ disks are always one to go on a power cycle too
nah it was the bit that caused the static web stuff to break
since both of those blades were in the same chassis
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:29
:(
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:29
wait a few weeks ago the api was down for EU
I remember that being some networking component failing
-- but you probably know better ^^
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 21:30
conclusion: don't buy replacement hardware at ebay :D
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 21:30
but it has so much fun data left on it xD
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 21:30
haha
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 21:31
wasn't there an incident with some US Secret Agency selling used storage on ebay without wiping it?
smiley
@codemasher
Aug 08 2017 21:32
yea, that quite a while ago already
i think i read about that on heise security or so
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 08 2017 21:40
urgh i'm still not past 1gb patching. with current speed it would take another 4 hours. bury me please
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:42
the servers havent risen either yet :P
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:47
@Darqam - skills and traits upload in progress.woo.
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:47
oki
I also think I updated things with the new prefixes
but not sure I did it right
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:49
looks good
can't believe how fast this bot is >_>
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:52
yeah, your upload bot is amazing
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:52
I can only fear that I've named all my unknown traits with the same scheme..
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:53
omg
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 21:53
gw2browser crashed as it finished scanning dat
fml
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:53
haha
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:54
@archomeda, what changes do I need to do to make my map widgets work ;)
did same one as before work?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:54
weird, it's not showing up as a mention
what do you mean exactly?
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 08 2017 21:55
that turn tho
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:55
did you need to adjust any of the continents api stuff to get it to load?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:56
eh... are you referring to that gif image?
because if you are, it's not mine :D
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:56
bah fooled me :P
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:57
someone in my guild discord posted it
@lye needs to regenerate the tiles, which might take a while if i'm correct
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:58
aw
so that's an ingame screenshot. derp didn't think of that
(what's ingame..)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:58
haha ha :(
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:58
launcher with the raptor mount up then?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:59
the new launcher is up yeah
just not the game itself in EU
Archomeda @Archomeda grumbles
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 21:59
is it braham on the dinosaur or not?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 21:59
huh... maybe
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:00
Sorry Anet, if that's Braham I'm not buying the expansion.
:D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:00
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it's kinda looks like it's him
but then he has changed clothing again
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:04
@Darqam yay finished uploading. do i create a page linking to them, or squish them into your sandbox?
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:05
entirely up to you
my sandbox might be easier for others to find
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:05
found some fails I've made already :(
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:09
rip
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 22:09
looks more like some kind of monk..someone we'll find in the desert, I bet
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:09
well... so far we've had eir and rytlock
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 22:10
where's the zojja client dammit?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:10
zojja is just rip
deal with taimi instead
:>
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 22:10
okay but we need an asura at least
wait, wasn't the first client caithe, not eir?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:11
ehhhhhh
yeah
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 22:12
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:12
my bad
i think i mixed them up with some different website then maybe
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 22:12
so we're sort of going through destiny's edge...maybe it is braham, since he's sort of eir's replacement
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:12
wew, finally finished patching
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:13
websites are down for me :(
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:13
http://prntscr.com/g62uuw I hate you....
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:13
yeah ditto
:(
I haven't even downloaded the freaking files yet
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:13
didn't you download it already from thursday?
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 22:13
7MB/s
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:14
or was that something else
unsure if copying the dat would actually work across branches :P
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:14
separate dat files :(
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:15
praise the six, opened without crashing
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:15
maybe can rename it..
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:15
and yeah, I patch 2 clients every big patch
be careful with that
dats are not the same from live to stage
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:15
definitely not, it's true
can't find jack shit in the stage dat lol
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:16
haha
i wonder what branch it is :P
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:16
as illustrated earlier in the week
right click open in notepad.. wait.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:16
you better be careful with that exe... ;)
if i know what cookie it's using i can download the stage client too :P
not that i can actually log in though
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:17
40k more files in gw2 browser to go, hopefully it doesn't crash again
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:17
which version are you using?
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:18
at this point, an outdated one
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:18
i've had a few crashes as well with a 2017 version
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:18
because all the recent ones crash
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:18
got some serious skills if you can get the cookie from a screenshot ;D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:18
haha :smile:
nah, i need the exe for that
but it's either branch 102, 103 or 104 i assume
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:19
n+1
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 22:21
10MB/s patching, wow
this is quite a big patch for not that much content..unless it includes PoF preview stuff
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:21
which it does
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 22:21
welp
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:21
potentially much more than just the preview as well
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:22
makes sense to get the first map out before everyone does gw2 hug of death on friday
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 22:22
I would hope that they were careful with what assets went in... They know full well that there are dataminers galore out there
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:22
is there a tl;dr for the patch notes?
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:22
yeah but most assets are already shown in previews
(for the new map)
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:23
they redid the WvW maps a bit did they not to make them safe for gliding
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:23
aaaaaand dc'ed from WvW
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:23
the Gw2FeaturePublicTestTiny.exe build from a long time ago used the 105 branch, heh
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:23
I saw a weird overlay in WvW map though
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 22:23
territories
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:23
ugh new shit I gotta learn about?
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 22:24
basically gliding boundaries
that's it
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:24
yeeee
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:24
ah ok
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:24
new WvW masteries for gliding
ballista anti air skill
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:24
@Eearslya i think many things have been included
i assume mostly models
or, rather, stuff that's not text since i checked that and there doesn't seem to have been added that much
at the same time, i skipped a lot because there's a lot of changes from the balance patch
argh... i think EU has to call it for today
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:28
yah I've been trying every few minutes for hours D:
I'll give it til midnight then call it
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:28
API is down for eu too, as well as the game?
Michael Dougall
@madou
Aug 08 2017 22:28
Well that answers my question then
👶
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:28
well, i think the EU api server is working; just everything related to EU accounts and datacenter is just timing out
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:29
--> Crash <--
Assertion: Raw manifest not found. Is your archive up to date?
File: ......\Services\AssetPatcher\ApExe.cpp(226)
ProgramId: 101
huh
so that's where that number you were talking about is?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:29
that's the branch yeah
101 is live
102 is probably stage
103 and 104 probably something dev
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:30
how can I tell?
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 22:30
From what they said, it sounds like the power outage actually took out some of their equipment
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:30
monitor the packets as they leave?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:30
that, or monitor DNS requests
the domain is assetcdn.{programid}.arenanetworks.com
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:31
yes finally gw2browser loaded up
but I don't feel like uploading icons atm :/
maybe tomorrow
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:31
lol
does you version save the index?
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:31
yeah
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:31
otherwise you'll have to wait again for a long time :D
Darqam
@Darqam
Aug 08 2017 22:31
nah it saves
it would be hell if it didn't
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:32
i still don't really understand why loading is so damn slow
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:32
probably processes tiny thumbnails lol
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:32
the .dat file has a big index that you can read within a few seconds... maybe it's checking every individual file type that's causing it to be so slow
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:33
assume it's not open source? :p
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:33
what? gw2browser?
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:33
looks like 103 btw.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:33
oh, interesting
then 102 is probably closer to live then
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:33
at least if I knew how to read this prog either I'd know
there's 103s everywhere
/program/103/1/0/.../compressed
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:34
yeah, that's 103
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:35
might have pressed log too slowly to catch the initial payload
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:36
but you have to go through the big chinese firewall now: http://assetcdn.111.cgw2.com/latest64/111
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:36
do i want to know what purpose you could have to access these urls directly?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:37
the urls alone? nothing
the downloads are protected by that cookie :P
but basically the cdn contains every file that the client needs to have in the .dat file
however, as long as you have the client, you can download a full copy of the .dat file anyway
and browse it with gw2browser
you don't want to give that exe to other people really
since it's not a live-branch and not public
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 22:45
I love learning stuff from you guys.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:53
interesting to say that apparently the domains for the auth servers for 102 and 103 have both NA and EU versions
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:54
is game login over HTTP? I feel like an UptimeRobot sorta page or something showing server statuses should be a thing
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:54
no it's not
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:55
figures
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:55
i did some work with it a long time ago
but did not continue
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:55
I guess you can test ping status or in the port accepts connections but it doesn't fully prove availability
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:55
true
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:56
click bot that logs in and out 24/7 hahah
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:56
i ehm... well that's what my code does
well not clicking
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:56
excellent, replicating calls?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:56
but simulating a handshake with the game server
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:56
nice
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:56
and then when a connection is made, immediately back off
don't know if it still works though, the code is more than 2 years old
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:57
that's enough to prove some level of uptime though
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 22:58
it uses port 6112 by default, aka the generic game port
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 22:59
DNS alias for those?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:00
auth servers are auth1.101.arenanetworks.com and auth2.* (NA/EU)
portal servers are cligate.101.ncplatform.net
the portal servers use port 6112
they use STS as protocol
auth2 is mostly down atm anyway
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 23:02
while :;do echo ''>/dev/tcp/auth2.101.arenanetworks.com/6112&&echo ok||echo dead;sleep 2;done
nailed it
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:03
haha
nice
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 23:03
"monitoring system"
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:04
auth2 has 5 IPs atm
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 23:04
I see em yeah
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:06
also, is the support for -autologin removed or something? D:
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 23:10
while :;do for i in $(dig auth1.101.arenanetworks.com +short);do printf "$(date) => $i\t";echo ''>/dev/tcp/$i/6112&&echo up||echo down;done;sleep 2;done
there ya go, checks all the IPs ;p
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:10
haha
i do wonder if cligate is location dependent
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 23:11
dunno how they work
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:12
@Eearslya to which ip addresses does cligate.101.ncplatform.net resolve to for you?
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 23:12
well it's much prettier than my one liner aside from looking like Windows 8
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 08 2017 23:12
64.25.40.112
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:12
ah yes, location dependent
i have 47 instead of 40
same as the api ips then
also, that website is still so outdated
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 23:13
idk what that site's doing but damn that's a lot of weird looking HTTP requests going out for a simple looking page
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:14
it's just funny how it lists file server and patch server while gw2 has the same CDN for both
NA and EU both have only 5 auth servers
and there's the portal servers that isn't even listed there XD
(btw, in case you're interested how you can find these domains, just run a -diag and open the text file)
that status website actually caused me to work on my version, that i abandoned afterwards :P
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 23:18
man don't get me started xD it's like half midnight and my brain is all like damn I could make a Lambda function that just spews out up/down status to a static page out of S3 no worries, I might do it right NOW YES
no, bed time
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:20
i wanted too much
basically i also worked on mapping a lot of CDN servers all over the world
it worked though
and if you needed a working one, you can just change the command line arguments
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 08 2017 23:24
in what I can only call hilarious, the german datacenter going down has fixed my font display issue i was moaning about a few weeks ago for cronospro
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:25
eh?
well
autologin still seems to be in the client
at least, the string is
along with some other stuff i haven't seen before
command line arguments that is
e.g. -mapviewdist
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:34
alright i actually tried having my client connecting to the NA portal :D
but it automatically redirects the client to the EU one :laughing:
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 23:34
smart! hahah
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:35
i did not expect otherwise really
i mean, EU players have their account data stored in the EU datacenter
i don't think there's a constant sync between NA and EU, if at all
what does chunkedpatching do?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:40
well, not that anyone here probably knows that :D
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 08 2017 23:45
i don't think there's a constant sync between NA and EU, if at all
I would say latter
I moved my account a couple of months ago to a NA world
cannot access it via API/accounts.arena.net
cannot login using the client, ty corporate proxy
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:46
:(
pretty sure the auth bits still go through EU
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:46
oh hey lye
what's up with the main website + account.arena.net?
dunno what's up with it
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:48
:<
"page not found"
i think one of the switches is still down
yeah all the web stuff in frankfurt is down
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:49
oh, that's also redirected to FRA
I'm not seeing anything running in frankfurt
so.... yeah
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 08 2017 23:50
there are no anet employees in FRA? only ncsoft/DC ppl?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:50
well, at least it shows that page now
it was timing out earlier
and actually working before :(
half of anet accounts in fra
one of the ARRs might be up, not sure
those don't report in via the same interface
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:56
oh well
i do hope FRA issues get resolved before the demo :D
Darrian
@rikkuness
Aug 08 2017 23:57
gitter pls
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 08 2017 23:58
ah hahaa