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23rd
Aug 2017
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 23 2017 10:20
also, I think the map has ~doubled in both directions, so there is four times the amount of tiles to render, no?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 13:45
it hasn't really doubled in both directions i think
previously, the ingame map would not allow you to scroll horizontally if you were zoomed out all the way, now it allows you to do that for... maybe 50% of the previous width?
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 23 2017 13:48
Didn't the map dims go from 32k to 48k?
darthmaim
@darthmaim
Aug 23 2017 13:49
width and height increased by 50%
gw2map.png
the area increased by 225%
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 23 2017 13:52
Yeah, a 50% increase in both dimensions would double the amount of pixels
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 13:52
in total yup
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 23 2017 14:21
but yeah, takes a bit longer to generate all those pixels probably :)
Werdes
@werdes
Aug 23 2017 15:51
Is there a way to determine wether a ranger trait affects the player or the pet?
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 23 2017 15:53
Not really
the description, but that's not really parseable
especially with this trait that gets confusing
because its supposed to give 150 power/prec/tough/vit to your pet
but the API lists it as a bonus of 150 points to "none"
hmm, something's wronger with the tile generator
it was still running in the morning
so i turned it off, will have to investigate
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 17:14

wronger

even more worse than wrong :scream:

how long did it use to take before?
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:20
is it generating png tiles..
:D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 17:21
haha, was there even an output? :D
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:21
is this amazing tile generator scrolling around the map and taking screenshots + knitting them?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 17:21
i think it does
except with cool dev hacks :>
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:22
i.e. disable clouds..
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 23 2017 17:23
you would say that this map is somehow in the dat, isnt it :P
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:23
I guess the hard bit is knitting it together
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 17:24
the files are in the dat of course, but everyone knows that the map part of the game is complicated as hell, especially the floors...
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 23 2017 17:24
I actually asked the devs this once
in one of the ama's
what their most scary system was
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:26
The splitting bit itself is fairly easy - I think it took my potato pc way less than a minute to generate 1k tiles from the gw1 map. Gw2 is 140k tiles but even that shouldn't be overnight
140k tiles over 4 ish floors...
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 17:26
gw1 doesn't have floors does it?
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:26
true.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 17:27
gw2 has a lot
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:27
say 500k X gw2 128x128 tiles
yeah but most gw2 floors don't stretch all the way to the end
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 17:27
granted, a lot of them are also very small
but i recall lye saying that generating didn't take that long, probably a couple of hours; it was the uploading bit that took longer... right?
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:28
so if the cutting bit is about 8 hours
:/
tiny files but so many i guess
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 17:28
also, 5 shared inventory slots: 3500 -> 2100 gems (-40%)
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 23 2017 17:30
oh I didnt even realise that
I did buy 5 tho
oh no
thats not honest @Archomeda, because you would normally get some discount when buying more
the old price is just 5x the single slot price
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 17:32
hmm
was it normally 2800 then?
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 23 2017 17:33
something like that yeah
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 17:33
urgh...
it's like what my local stores always do
have something permanently on €50 €25, and when it goes on sale it's €50 €10
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:35
remind me, the map tiles haven't been redone since continents expanded yeah?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 17:36
think so
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:37
realised the https://wiki.guildwars2.com/index.php?title=API:Maps documentation needs tweaking to reflect the size change.
49152 isn't a power of 2 either ><
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 17:39
i think last year the shared slots were on -20%
i'm debating whether or not i should get them
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:46
so with the continent size changed, at the lowest zoom level, 0, would you still display all of tyria on one map tile, or would it be pushed onto 4?
I'm actually not sure
guessing ... the tile zoom levels are changed
wonder if that's what broke it
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:49
having only changed the continent size so far, it looks like my widget is calling 4 tiles at the smallest scale
I dunno if you create one large file first for each floor then split it, but did you remember to make it the next up power of 2?
I don't know :O
windwarrior
@windwarrior
Aug 23 2017 17:55
it not being a power of two scares and confuses me
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 17:56
exactly.
basically you want the next power of 2 up, then delete anything beyond certain x/y
set zoom to 8 and see if it works?
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 18:02
possibly neater to make old zoom level 0 be -1 :P
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ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 19:03
I'm not sure, but you cannot actually see istan ingame?
so the map in the dat file is bigger than shown ingame, iirc
ChieftainAlex
@ChieftainAlex
Aug 23 2017 19:48
yeah istan is off the edge.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 20:43
hmm, you're unable to rejoin dragon's stand when the final fight has started right?
because i just crashed again -_-
thanks game :(
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i hate how the game handles the map instances upon dc or crash :(
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 20:48
also, why can't i rejoin a map i've been on for the past 30 minutes after it's finished, urghhh...
i seriously hope that PoF won't have maps like these
/rant
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 21:08
i'm still wondering if, how and when anet is going to fix that issue... it happens for every meta event... if the map is full (or in case of DS the map has "started"), and you dc you have no chance to get back... a reserved spot for 5 mins should be enough to fix that issue, but I don't know how feasible it is with the current backend :/
That's the reason I stopped playing on mac... the client kept on crashing, and if you are doing TD or other HoT-Metas you just cannot get back in :'(
/rant :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 21:40
i wonder if the person/people responsible for the megaservers are still with anet
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 21:43
hmm lye? :D
megaservers or not, the issue is there since release :/
I still miss the district selection from gw1 <3 (I know slightly different topic)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 21:49
well at least i don't get placed in german megaservers anymore... holy crap that was annoying when the megaservers were just introduced
hmm, will changing my client language actually force a different megaserver?
if there are any
because there's a bugged event that's dependent on my chuka and champawat collection -_-
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 21:51
hmm I'm not sure, but might be. but guesting to a other server might sometimes put you on a different instance of the map
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 21:51
doubt it will work for underpopulated maps :(
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 21:52
esp. if you are on a german server and guest to spanish you usually get a different version of LA
yup... if there is only one instance... there is only one instance :D
which map are you talking about?
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 21:52
timberline
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 21:53
try it when there is leyline event
there might be more instances up
or write support, some ppl on reddit got their items send to them
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 21:54
uurggh, that's in 2 hours D:
and yeah, i know about that, tried it with another collection item last week
from an event that was also bugged
but then a patch happened and that spawns a new instance without the bugged event
so in the end i got that
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 21:56
congrats :) i've never had a collection that was behind a buggy event some how... I think I just make wrong legendaries :D
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 21:56
oh thank god, there happened to be another event that gave credit just now
these collection items behind bugged events are the worst
i don't think i've ever had a legendary weapon collection without bugged events
but if i crash a third time in DS, i will write support for getting that item
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 22:01
hmm I've only build astralaria, bifrost and juggernaut... those were fine
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 22:01
i've made hope, bolt and am now working on chuka
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 22:01
but for astralaria you have to kill mordremoth so... that's the same issue with DS
now that's something nice
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 23 2017 22:29
@lye share
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 22:30
lol
I was in a meeting during that, there's not much left :<
certainly not enough to share
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 23 2017 22:35
ouch D:
can I have one of the cereal dispensers?
yeah you can have the one with the reeses pieces
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 23 2017 22:41
SCORE
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 22:44
@lye how is the tile generator doing? :D
i'm not sure what it did
but it ran all night and generated several billion tiles of something
explorer.exe has been deleting them for 4 hours
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:10
rofl
didn't you run a local webserver to visualize them? :D
didn't bother; they'll look fine
it's a problem with the export process or something
pretty sure it gets into an infinite loop
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:11
it's still preparing?
I should probably find Maps -type f -delete
would probably be faster than whatever the hell explorer is doing
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:13
deleting large amounts of files with explorer is a pain
but 2M files... wow, and it's not even done counting it seems
Running find instead
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 23 2017 23:14
plus you were recycling them
if it's not done by tomorrow morning I'll just reformat the volume
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 23:19
oh shit... I wonder how much was broken in the client after the developers increased the map size :/
dunno, I've only kept the tile exporter repaired, so I'm not very familiar with it
probably won't have time to futz with it until next week, unfortunately
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 23:21
how much of the client/backend stuff do you (you as in lye and you as in webdev) touch?
i have a few commits in literally every aspect of everything, unfortunately
jack of all trades, master of none
the rest of my team are all pure web developers and didn't dabble in the eldrich arts
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 23:24
then I dare you to leave anet :D
without you the api wir probably die :/
nah I haven't made any changes to the API in like a month or two
it's still chugging along mostly not on fire
Eearslya Sleiarion
@Eearslya
Aug 23 2017 23:25
until PoF
@Archomeda lul
I can't really comment on that
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:26
might want to forward to some people before players are getting scammed
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 23:27
hmm but you do whitelist stuff ;)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:27
this doesn't seem legit imo
actually shit is 2007 not configured on live
@Archomeda I think they might be legit
we're definitely making some changes to gem cards
i don't know the actual details
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:27
hmm alright; seems weird though
i never actually bought gem cards here in NL, because they are definitely a scam here
Maybe 2017 isn't the internal SKU
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:29
(and with it being a scam in NL i mean it's more expensive to buy such a card, compared to buying directly ingame)

lol

Advies prijs: € 39,99
Onze Prijs € 24,40

they suggest that €39.99 is the usual price for 2000 gems

ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 23:31
doesn't amazon.nl sells it as well?
I'm not sure we've actually released those yet, actually.
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:31
wait, we have amazon?
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 23:31
do you? xD
Reading through my emails now; I have a phone conference on Tuesday about something related
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:31
oh, it's just books :|
oh well
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 23:32
wow I didn't know there is no amazon in the netherlands oO
(the boring gist is that a third-party provider is switching providers for gemcard redemption)
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:33
a 3rd party provider switching providers... i'm confused :D
we have a 3rd party billing provider (DR) which uses a 3rd party for gemcard redemption
or something I don't really know
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:34
oh god :D
I think there might actually be multiple 3rd party gemcard redemption bits
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 23:34
but do you care? I mean as long as it just works (tm), they do the job they are paid for ^^
since they're different for different regions
tl;dr everything is complicated and someone probably screwed something up somewhere
also the above does not constitute anything official i am just rambling
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:35
well, at least it's mostly outsourced and you don't have to deal with it yourself
you as in anet or ncsoft
well
the gemcard SKUs are mapped to gem amounts in the web configs
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:36
oh lol
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 23:36
rip
rip indeed
you basically put the gem card code into the 3rd party site (rendered in-game) and they verify that it's legit, then send us the SKU+account id
since they send that over a REST API...
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:37
right...
well, good luck next week
thanks I think I need it
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 23:37
via SOAP! via SOAP :D
NO
:vomit:
oh yeah... gitter and embeding stuff, I forgot
it's okay it's a good video
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 23:39
<3
Quaggan BooOOoot
@QuagganBooOOoot
Aug 23 2017 23:39
:heart:
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:42
what did i just watch
haha
ptolstoi
@ptolstoi
Aug 23 2017 23:43
it was video for a java conference
they did a game of thrones remake as well
and a lady gaga parody
Archomeda
@Archomeda
Aug 23 2017 23:43
rofl
there is more!